Question First timer seeking advice

[Scholastica]

Hi gents, I'm new to the spa world and I've been doing a lot of research for the past few days. I still have some questions and I'm hoping someone would be willing to help clarify.

1. If I visit a semi-legit place let's say, do I need to do anything in particular proactively (flirting, touching, straight up asking) to let them know that I'm there for extras? Or can I literally just shut up and the girl will bring up the topic of extras at some point? To give more context I'm in my mid 20s, not ugly and have a fit body, I'm also a working professional and a very proper/polite person. I hope I don't come off like I'm bragging but all that is to say I don't look like someone who goes to massage parlours to get HEs, I'm afraid they'll just give me a legit massage thinking that's all I wanted.

2. Related to 1 but I know girls will do some "teasing" pre-flip. So how do they know whether I want extras (therefore I should be teased) or I only want legit massage before the flip? (My understanding is the specific extras you get is only confirmed after the flip)

3. If you walk-in without making an appointment, how does the "girl picking" process go? Would they show you pictures or have them line up in front of you for you to pick? The latter sounds very awkward to me lol.

4. When you go into the massage room, what are you supposed to do exactly? I think you're supposed to strip naked, shower, then lie on the bed face down, all while the girl is outside the room? Are you supposed to cover your ass up with the towel? (I've heard covered = asking for legit massage and not covered = asking for extras). I've also heard stories that seem to deviate from this script where the girl hop in the shower with them and stuff so idk how I'm supposed to know what to do exactly.

5. Do the girls usually strike up conversations with you? Or will they only talk if you strike up a conversation?

6. From the reviews I've read, it seems like most people just get a BS upfront, but in the process venture into other things like DFK, DATY, PS, russian. I'm curious how that works exactly? Do you ask explicitly or do you just keep testing her boundaries until she says no?

7. I don't see any mentions of foot jobs. Is FJ on the same level of HJ as in all girls are ok with it and the tips are on the same level? If I ask for both HJ and FJ would that cost extra?

8. As I'm new I plan to start slow and just get a sensual massage with a HJ. Curious if anyone have good recommendations on where to go in Markham/Richmond Hill area for someone like me who's a first timer and would prefer some guidance along the way? I like young, attractive, easygoing girls that love what they do and does their job with passion, preferably not shy since I'll be the shy one lol.

TIA gents!

 

[Average_Olivia@Premier]

Hi gents, I'm new to the spa world and I've been doing a lot of research for the past few days. I still have some questions and I'm hoping someone would be willing to help clarify.

1. If I visit a semi-legit place let's say, do I need to do anything in particular proactively (flirting, touching, straight up asking) to let them know that I'm there for extras? Or can I literally just shut up and the girl will bring up the topic of extras at some point? To give more context I'm in my mid 20s, not ugly and have a fit body, I'm also a working professional and a very proper/polite person. I hope I don't come off like I'm bragging but all that is to say I don't look like someone who goes to massage parlours to get HEs, I'm afraid they'll just give me a legit massage thinking that's all I wanted.

2. Related to 1 but I know girls will do some "teasing" pre-flip. So how do they know whether I want extras (therefore I should be teased) or I only want legit massage before the flip? (My understanding is the specific extras you get is only confirmed after the flip)

3. If you walk-in without making an appointment, how does the "girl picking" process go? Would they show you pictures or have them line up in front of you for you to pick? The latter sounds very awkward to me lol.

4. When you go into the massage room, what are you supposed to do exactly? I think you're supposed to strip naked, shower, then lie on the bed face down, all while the girl is outside the room? Are you supposed to cover your ass up with the towel? (I've heard covered = asking for legit massage and not covered = asking for extras). I've also heard stories that seem to deviate from this script where the girl hop in the shower with them and stuff so idk how I'm supposed to know what to do exactly.

5. Do the girls usually strike up conversations with you? Or will they only talk if you strike up a conversation?

6. From the reviews I've read, it seems like most people just get a BS upfront, but in the process venture into other things like DFK, DATY, PS, russian. I'm curious how that works exactly? Do you ask explicitly or do you just keep testing her boundaries until she says no?

7. I don't see any mentions of foot jobs. Is FJ on the same level of HJ as in all girls are ok with it and the tips are on the same level? If I ask for both HJ and FJ would that cost extra?

8. As I'm new I plan to start slow and just get a sensual massage with a HJ. Curious if anyone have good recommendations on where to go in Markham/Richmond Hill area for someone like me who's a first timer and would prefer some guidance along the way? I like young, attractive, easygoing girls that love what they do and does their job with passion, preferably not shy since I'll be the shy one lol.

TIA gents!

Go to Premier just once. Then try other places and compare.

 

[BigRed77]

Hi gents, I'm new to the spa world and I've been doing a lot of research for the past few days. I still have some questions and I'm hoping someone would be willing to help clarify.

1. If I visit a semi-legit place let's say, do I need to do anything in particular proactively (flirting, touching, straight up asking) to let them know that I'm there for extras? Or can I literally just shut up and the girl will bring up the topic of extras at some point? To give more context I'm in my mid 20s, not ugly and have a fit body, I'm also a working professional and a very proper/polite person. I hope I don't come off like I'm bragging but all that is to say I don't look like someone who goes to massage parlours to get HEs, I'm afraid they'll just give me a legit massage thinking that's all I wanted.

2. Related to 1 but I know girls will do some "teasing" pre-flip. So how do they know whether I want extras (therefore I should be teased) or I only want legit massage before the flip? (My understanding is the specific extras you get is only confirmed after the flip)

3. If you walk-in without making an appointment, how does the "girl picking" process go? Would they show you pictures or have them line up in front of you for you to pick? The latter sounds very awkward to me lol.

4. When you go into the massage room, what are you supposed to do exactly? I think you're supposed to strip naked, shower, then lie on the bed face down, all while the girl is outside the room? Are you supposed to cover your ass up with the towel? (I've heard covered = asking for legit massage and not covered = asking for extras). I've also heard stories that seem to deviate from this script where the girl hop in the shower with them and stuff so idk how I'm supposed to know what to do exactly.

5. Do the girls usually strike up conversations with you? Or will they only talk if you strike up a conversation?

6. From the reviews I've read, it seems like most people just get a BS upfront, but in the process venture into other things like DFK, DATY, PS, russian. I'm curious how that works exactly? Do you ask explicitly or do you just keep testing her boundaries until she says no?

7. I don't see any mentions of foot jobs. Is FJ on the same level of HJ as in all girls are ok with it and the tips are on the same level? If I ask for both HJ and FJ would that cost extra?

8. As I'm new I plan to start slow and just get a sensual massage with a HJ. Curious if anyone have good recommendations on where to go in Markham/Richmond Hill area for someone like me who's a first timer and would prefer some guidance along the way? I like young, attractive, easygoing girls that love what they do and does their job with passion, preferably not shy since I'll be the shy one lol.

TIA gents!

I'll answer with my experience, but it is somewhat limited as I've only been to 2 places, and both are considered "low milage" (don't usually offer "extras"), but I have been asked once or twice. With a lot of these questions, it depends on the specific place, and most importantly, the specific woman (and how they feel that day and/or how well they like you). Very rarely is anything ever about you, but them, remember that lol (unless you're rude to them or something negative).

1) Most will ask you if it's your first time if they haven't seen you before, and tell you any "rules" they have so not to worry about that. Personally if I'm not sure and they haven't said, then I'll ask if something is ok with them. If you're wanting a specific experience (ie not low mileage) than check out the place online (and this site) to make sure the place is known for "extras" or not.

2) Every woman is different. Teasing usually happens regardless anyway. But some will ask you right away what you want, others will do a massage first, then nearing the end ask you if you want anything else. Personally I always wait for them to offer any extras, but there are lots of guys that don't wait and ask first.

3) Walk-ins are based on availability and if the woman has another appointment booked or not. The selection "process" depends on the place. Could be either pictures or line up. I'm with you, I was very uncomfortable with line up (to the point I didn't pick anyone and left that particular time lol), but now when I go to that specific place, I look on their site and call ahead and make an appointment with the woman I want so I don't experience that.

4) You shower, the woman leaves the room while you do this. The amount of time before they come back into the room varies depending on the woman, but within 5 mins usually. Personally I wait for them to come back in, then usually lie on stomach (no towel) while they start on my back, but there's no "rule" for this. If you're more comfortable with the towel on at first, it won't be a problem. Also for me, I like getting reverse (massage them as well), so sometimes I say I want to start with them vs them massage me first. None have ever had a problem with it so if you want something, don't be afraid to ask.

5) Again, depends on the woman, some are more talkative than others (no different than if you met them on the street or anywhere else). They also try to gage how you are as all guys are different - some like conversation, some prefer little/none.

6) As stated early, personally I'd ask them before you do anything if something is ok. Or if you don't feel comfortable, just ask her what her rules are or what she won't allow. I think it's also important to state that if you see a review on here about one guys experience with a woman (assuming he's not telling a story and it's the truth lol), don't assume that she will allow the same things with you. Chances are good she will, but women are selective. They might have felt more comfortable with that guy than they will with you, and/or it may not even have anything to do with you at all, but how she's feeling that particular day.

7) When doing research online, look for mentions of "extras" or fetishes, not only if the place allows them, but some site will say if the woman does them or not. I would assume that a fj would be a fetish and cost you extra, but I couldn't say for sure.

8) Search here for reviews. And there's always a bit of a "gamble" any time you go in my opinion because as I've stated earlier, her mood that day may be different. With women that I've seen more than once, every experience with them has been different slightly as they just might be feeling it more that day than other days. Some are better than others about how selfish they are to be honest. Some with "push through" and do their best to please you, others don't care if you're happy or not if they aren't feeling well that day or don't like you.

I think it's important to remember that you'll have good times and not so good times, no matter where you go or with whom. And often the experience gets "better" the more times you see someone and they get to know you a bit (as with real life).

Hope this helps. Share your experience with us when you go!

 

[jlp78]

Someone mentioned Nancy @ JR as a starting one. I would definitely second that if you want to start with a HJ.

She is an experienced lady, great massage, teases you throughout and does an amazing two-handed handjob where she puts your legs over her thighs and you can see her face and hair over your cock. Worth a try. Here is a review I did of her some time ago (Post in thread Nancy- Just Relax).

Alternatively head East and see Ada at E&M. She is younger and also gives an amazing flowing experience. Reviewed her recently (Review - Ada @ E&M)
.

Generally as a first experience you can’t go wrong with anyone at JR, E&M or Suko. Most of the other places mentioned (SL, Reynaella, Sentosa, etc ),I would put them as ‘tier 2’. Girls offer a lot more services and can be more difficult to navigate for a first timer.

 

[Deleted member 121294]

Years ago we honed our skills in the bars, at the beach , on the street, elevators, grocery stores , wherever women roamed, we had to work hard to get a piece of ass and !!! We never paid for it !! …now , holy fuck ! Walk into a spa pull out the dick and 100 bucks ,wham bam you’re out the fucking door …what happened to the youth , where did they lose their confidence, their sense of adventure, I can’t believe this is becoming a Dear Abbey forum , spend some hours of the day whoring wherever you are ..

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There's a reason that Bill Maher says that Gen X is the last sane generation...

 

[Average_Olivia@Premier]

Hi gents, I'm new to the spa world and I've been doing a lot of research for the past few days. I still have some questions and I'm hoping someone would be willing to help clarify.

1. If I visit a semi-legit place let's say, do I need to do anything in particular proactively (flirting, touching, straight up asking) to let them know that I'm there for extras? Or can I literally just shut up and the girl will bring up the topic of extras at some point? To give more context I'm in my mid 20s, not ugly and have a fit body, I'm also a working professional and a very proper/polite person. I hope I don't come off like I'm bragging but all that is to say I don't look like someone who goes to massage parlours to get HEs, I'm afraid they'll just give me a legit massage thinking that's all I wanted.

2. Related to 1 but I know girls will do some "teasing" pre-flip. So how do they know whether I want extras (therefore I should be teased) or I only want legit massage before the flip? (My understanding is the specific extras you get is only confirmed after the flip)

3. If you walk-in without making an appointment, how does the "girl picking" process go? Would they show you pictures or have them line up in front of you for you to pick? The latter sounds very awkward to me lol.

4. When you go into the massage room, what are you supposed to do exactly? I think you're supposed to strip naked, shower, then lie on the bed face down, all while the girl is outside the room? Are you supposed to cover your ass up with the towel? (I've heard covered = asking for legit massage and not covered = asking for extras). I've also heard stories that seem to deviate from this script where the girl hop in the shower with them and stuff so idk how I'm supposed to know what to do exactly.

5. Do the girls usually strike up conversations with you? Or will they only talk if you strike up a conversation?

6. From the reviews I've read, it seems like most people just get a BS upfront, but in the process venture into other things like DFK, DATY, PS, russian. I'm curious how that works exactly? Do you ask explicitly or do you just keep testing her boundaries until she says no?

7. I don't see any mentions of foot jobs. Is FJ on the same level of HJ as in all girls are ok with it and the tips are on the same level? If I ask for both HJ and FJ would that cost extra?

8. As I'm new I plan to start slow and just get a sensual massage with a HJ. Curious if anyone have good recommendations on where to go in Markham/Richmond Hill area for someone like me who's a first timer and would prefer some guidance along the way? I like young, attractive, easygoing girls that love what they do and does their job with passion, preferably not shy since I'll be the shy one lol.

TIA gents!

Every establishment in this hobby sucks. Except Premier. Trust me on thus.

 

[Scholastica]

I'll answer with my experience, but it is somewhat limited as I've only been to 2 places, and both are considered "low milage" (don't usually offer "extras"), but I have been asked once or twice. With a lot of these questions, it depends on the specific place, and most importantly, the specific woman (and how they feel that day and/or how well they like you). Very rarely is anything ever about you, but them, remember that lol (unless you're rude to them or something negative).

1) Most will ask you if it's your first time if they haven't seen you before, and tell you any "rules" they have so not to worry about that. Personally if I'm not sure and they haven't said, then I'll ask if something is ok with them. If you're wanting a specific experience (ie not low mileage) than check out the place online (and this site) to make sure the place is known for "extras" or not.

2) Every woman is different. Teasing usually happens regardless anyway. But some will ask you right away what you want, others will do a massage first, then nearing the end ask you if you want anything else. Personally I always wait for them to offer any extras, but there are lots of guys that don't wait and ask first.

3) Walk-ins are based on availability and if the woman has another appointment booked or not. The selection "process" depends on the place. Could be either pictures or line up. I'm with you, I was very uncomfortable with line up (to the point I didn't pick anyone and left that particular time lol), but now when I go to that specific place, I look on their site and call ahead and make an appointment with the woman I want so I don't experience that.

4) You shower, the woman leaves the room while you do this. The amount of time before they come back into the room varies depending on the woman, but within 5 mins usually. Personally I wait for them to come back in, then usually lie on stomach (no towel) while they start on my back, but there's no "rule" for this. If you're more comfortable with the towel on at first, it won't be a problem. Also for me, I like getting reverse (massage them as well), so sometimes I say I want to start with them vs them massage me first. None have ever had a problem with it so if you want something, don't be afraid to ask.

5) Again, depends on the woman, some are more talkative than others (no different than if you met them on the street or anywhere else). They also try to gage how you are as all guys are different - some like conversation, some prefer little/none.

6) As stated early, personally I'd ask them before you do anything if something is ok. Or if you don't feel comfortable, just ask her what her rules are or what she won't allow. I think it's also important to state that if you see a review on here about one guys experience with a woman (assuming he's not telling a story and it's the truth lol), don't assume that she will allow the same things with you. Chances are good she will, but women are selective. They might have felt more comfortable with that guy than they will with you, and/or it may not even have anything to do with you at all, but how she's feeling that particular day.

7) When doing research online, look for mentions of "extras" or fetishes, not only if the place allows them, but some site will say if the woman does them or not. I would assume that a fj would be a fetish and cost you extra, but I couldn't say for sure.

8) Search here for reviews. And there's always a bit of a "gamble" any time you go in my opinion because as I've stated earlier, her mood that day may be different. With women that I've seen more than once, every experience with them has been different slightly as they just might be feeling it more that day than other days. Some are better than others about how selfish they are to be honest. Some with "push through" and do their best to please you, others don't care if you're happy or not if they aren't feeling well that day or don't like you.

I think it's important to remember that you'll have good times and not so good times, no matter where you go or with whom. And often the experience gets "better" the more times you see someone and they get to know you a bit (as with real life).

Hope this helps. Share your experience with us when you go!

Thanks man this is super helpful!

 

[Scholastica]

Someone mentioned Nancy @ JR as a starting one. I would definitely second that if you want to start with a HJ.

She is an experienced lady, great massage, teases you throughout and does an amazing two-handed handjob where she puts your legs over her thighs and you can see her face and hair over your cock. Worth a try. Here is a review I did of her some time ago (Post in thread Nancy- Just Relax).

Alternatively head East and see Ada at E&M. She is younger and also gives an amazing flowing experience. Reviewed her recently (Review - Ada @ E&M)
.

Generally as a first experience you can’t go wrong with anyone at JR, E&M or Suko. Most of the other places mentioned (SL, Reynaella, Sentosa, etc ),I would put them as ‘tier 2’. Girls offer a lot more services and can be more difficult to navigate for a first timer.

Thanks for the recommendation! Will check it out.

 

[Scholastica]

Wish I could "like" this one thousand times...
It's from all that helicopter-parenting.
There's a reason that Bill Maher says that Gen X is the last sane generation...

I think it's more so social media. People are just more distant with each other these days.

 

[Scholastica]

Every establishment in this hobby sucks. Except Premier. Trust me on thus.

Idk much about Premier but from what I know I think it's a bit different than your regular massage parlours, is that true? If so, how? And do you have anyone you recommend? Thanks.

 

[Average_Olivia@Premier]

Idk much about Premier but from what I know I think it's a bit different than your regular massage parlours, is that true? If so, how? And do you have anyone you recommend? Thanks.

It's waaay better than everywhere else.
It's clean, classy, luxurious and professionally run. Everywhere else seems like a joke. Try Helena, Christina to start.