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11 weeks post discectomy and still in pain HELP!

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I haven't been told a great deal about what I've had done although the specialist said he had completely removed dics L4 & L5. I am only 31 but have had lower back problems with sciatica since I was 19.
I hadn't elected to have this operation but had collapsed in severe pain with numbness from my waist down and an inability to pee! I had been in a lot of pain for a few weeks beforehand and I knew from 5 years ago when I had experienced a prolapsed disc what exactly I had done but this pain was far more excruciating.
Any way to cut a long story short, at this moment in time I am almost 11 weeks post-op and even though I do not have any lower back pain I havestill got numbness in my buttocks, down the back of my legs and in my feet through to mytoes and with that comes nerve pain which includes; burning sensations, tingling, shooting pains, constant pins and needles type feelings (but 100x stronger) and on a scale of 1-10 my pain is never any lower than a 4.
This amount of pain and nimbness is really starting to get me down and I don't feel as though physicians give me any straight answers.
I am having PT but it doesn't seem to be helping. I am able towalk, stand and sit but for only 5-10 mins max, I'mtrying out a TENS unit but that's not doing anything either.
I was told about a new drug on the market licensed for use on nerve pain - Cymbalta. Can anyone tell me if they've used it or heard of it? I am conventional pain relief at the moment:- cocodamol, voltarol and amitriptyline but they cause constipation and gut ache.
So if there is anyone out there that can tell me how long this will last or have any comments about pain relief you have had success with or just to let me know of your experiences or anything else that you think might help PLEASE, PLEASE let me know.

Many thanks and hope to hear from you soon.
 
Hi There. I suffered the same thing as yourself in December 2003. I am now able to walk although I use a leg brace as I have dropped foot and also use a crutch for support. I have made a good recovery on my left side but still have a lot of numbness on my right leg, thighs, buttocks and saddle area and suffer with bowel problems.

With regards to the nerve pain I have found that taking both amitrriptyline and gababentin helps a great deal but conventional pain relief does not touch the pain.

The numbness can apparently vary from patient to patient and depends on how damaged the nerves were during compression and how long they were compressed for. I have been advised by the specialist that this is probably as good as it is going to get for me. I just try to look forward and focus on the things that I can do and not what I used to be able to do. I thank my lucky stars that I can walk as it could have been a lot worse.
 
Hi -
In my experience working as ahospital pharmacistas part of the acute pain team, if you are after conventional western medicine, I would be more inclined to go along the route of Amitriptylline 10-25mg at night if you find that nerve pain "buring, stinging, tingling, pins & needles" is keeping you awake at night and Gaapentin 300-600mg three times a day rather than trying Cymbalta (which is NOT licensed for this type of pain , although is licensed for DIABETIC peripheral neuropathic pain) for these symptoms during the day. Additionally, whilst you may perceive that paracetamol is not helping, I would advise that you take this on a regular basis.

As a complementary/alternative therapist, I would also say that this is not the complete answer, and that you also need to address the underlying emotional feelings that go along with the pain.

Questions -Since the pain started when you were 19,was there something emotionally effecting you 1-2 years prior to this - some major emotional event? What was the trigger? Is there any emotion that leaves you feeling "numb"?

I have found that when you deal with these issues, then the pain usually just goes away, as it is not needed anymore. I would recommend that either Time Line Therapy TM or that EFT should help.
 
Many thanks to you both for your interest in me and all your help and info.
 
Hi SJB

Picking up maceuk's comment about addressing the underlying emotional issues, I am about to have my first session of SHEN this week... for my recovering back problem. Mine is of a lower grade (and different type) than yours, though when it was at its worst it was horrendously painful. If you are interested I'll PM you with how it goes, so that perhaps you could decide if it, or something similar, could be useful to you?

N x
 
I had my second L4-L5 microdiscectomy on 7/10 (1st one of 7/25/05). I began having pain in April, progressed to severe back spasms in May. MRI showed nothing. Then in June radiating pain into my L leg, footdrop and numbness. My doc was out of town and I was scheduled for a LESI at that time so I had that done (it was so painful!) with no help. When he came back I let him know about the neurological changes so he scheduled a CT/mylegram which showed the herniation. Surgery showed 3 big chunks of disc pressing on the sciatica.
I'm having PT 3X/wk and walk 2-3 miles every day I don't do PT. But I still have numbness/weakness/burning in my leg. I have to take a Percocet 10mg and Soma every night because when I get burning and tingling starting in the afternoon and by night it prevents me from resting. My doc said not to worry about the meds - not uncommon to need for some time. He said having a repeat surgery is always more difficult to bounce back from and more painful.
I'm an ER nurse so I'm taking 8 wks off from work. I still also have sciatica pain.
I'm so fearful of re-herniation. Doc has told me that if I reherniate, he'll have to do a fusion. That is my greatest fear. I'm only 51 and physically active - like to camp, canoe, etc. Plus I still have 14 yrs of work before even thinking about retiring.
I guess I'm just asking from reassurance from anyone who's been in this position.
Thanks for letting me vent!
 
I would advise seeking postural advice and developing core stability so that your muscles strengthen and relieve pressure on your joints.
Try a good Pilates practitioner/ Alexander Technique.
Sharon.
 
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    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular
  34. Bellagio Wellness &Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’— โ„๐”ธโ„™โ„™๐• ๐”ธโ„™โ„๐•€๐•ƒ ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ APRIL 23th , TUESDAY ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 707-6866 ๐Ÿ•™๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸOpen 10:30-10:00๐Ÿ—บ#33-160 East Beaver Creek ๐Ÿ—บ 7 Rms ๐Ÿ›๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸTable Shower(TS)+Massage 2hr $120*,TS & massage 1hr $90, ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ$40/50/60 for 30/45/60min ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸAttendants: We have 6๏ธโƒฃ today ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ ๐ŸŒนCHERRY ๐ŸŒน SOPHIE ๐ŸŒน LILIAN ๐ŸŒน SUNNY ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ†• TINA ๐ŸŒน LUCY ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ NEWSFLASH ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ CHERRY & ๐Ÿ†• TINA & LILIAN & SUNNY & SOPHIE โ€˜ s BACK ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ TODAY ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€
  35. Jiosh:
    edmonton
  36. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡New First Day Young Sexy Japanese Girl Nini (23 years old 163cm 50kg 34D) Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinese Judy, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie
  37. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699Today we have 5 girls on Monday๏ผšNew white girl Ana young student,๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ Sabrina - Service queen with a banging body that is sure to make heads turn. Angel - innocent GND looks that has a very sensual side to warm things up Coco - Spunky fun in...
  38. Sparkling Spa:
    KOREAN PARTY GIRL SUMMER, NYMPHO FOX AND CHINESE SECY EMILY@ Sparkling Spa๐Ÿ‘ŒMENTION OUR ADS AND RECEIVE A ROOM DISCOUNT $35 FOR 30MIN, $50 FOR 45MINโ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT#8
  39. Lulu1980:
    Hi guys ๐ŸŒนPhoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธ3 girls every day ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐Ÿฅฐ๐ŸฅฐNew girl today Kittyโค๏ธpetite and sexy skin๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนProfessional table shower body scrub๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿฅฐ and so nice Mia is very good๐Ÿ‘Body slide๐Ÿคช๐Ÿคช๐Ÿคช and deep massage Jenny ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ(437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Lily๐Ÿ˜˜ - A petite tiny little Korean treat
  41. Moon&beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 /Spanish girl (Mia) and Asian girl (Sophie) in today
  42. Spagirl:
    Golden leaf spa .2229 Bostock in mississauga.4379992166.super clean .linda is very friendly,does a very relaxing treatment.coco is small cute sexy slime
  43. Spagirl:
    GOLDEN LEAF Wellness center .2229 Bostock in missisauga
  44. Dreaminn:
    MONDAY at ๐Ÿ’ญDREAM INN WELLNESS SPA๐Ÿ’ญ: LULU, MIMI & SUGAR 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie) Richmond Hill, ON โ˜Ž๏ธ 647-829-2983 โ˜Ž๏ธ LULU is a popular & well known Chinese attendant from another spa, very slim & beautiful, 5โ€™3โ€, 105 pounds with 34C Cups & incredible services. MIMI is a young Asian lady with a medium build and nice services.
  45. GoldenFlower:
    MONDAY at๐Ÿ’›โญ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒปGOLDEN FLOWER SPA๐ŸŒป๐ŸŒŸโญ๐Ÿ’›, 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6 (Kennedy & Hwy 7), Markham, ON 905-258-0777Jojo, Mika, Monica & Sherry. Jojo is a beautiful young fair skinned Hong Kong girl who can melt all your cares away. Mika is a sexy petite Vietnamese lady who can take good care of all your needs. Monica is sweet, attractive and accommodating.
  46. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center :New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Ada ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry , address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  47. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Vita ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo, Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  48. ASPA:
    ๐— ๐—ข๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: EMMA and RACHEL. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ A THOUSAND PLEASURES AWAIT: EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable.
  49. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 818-8896โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Bobo ๐Ÿ˜ A brand new Hong Kong girl making her debut at Annie Spa, Bobo is a young busty girl with natural 36C breasts and big round juicy nipples. Her slim waist and perfect firm ass will have you eating out of her palm and her kitty.
  50. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธVIVIAN & JENNY JENNY has a medium build, nicely curved. Jenny has a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy. VIVIAN is camera shy & doesnโ€™t want to post a pic so far. She is young, attractive, and a must see for big boob lovers.
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