50 year old new student challenge

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Hello All,
I am desperately seeking advice about a situation that has become very difficult for me. I started massage school 4 weeeks ago and I am one of 3 students, the other 2 in 21 & 23. The teaacher is 21 also! She has been a cmt for 2 years but this is her first time teaching. Long story short the 21 yo guy has an attitude toward me ever since I quit driving himm back and forth to school. I was doing him a favor but he was rude and it was out of my way so I stopped, no thanks, no couple bucks for gas, nothing and it became a negative. Ever since then he has humiliated me on the table and has bonded with the girl 23 year old and the 21 yo teacher and I have been odd person out which is extremely difficult in a situation like this. The teacher is blaming it on my attitude and sides with the young ones. I feel my dream career change at 50 is slipping away and I am getting depressed. If I leave I lose over $2000 and have nothing to show for it, if I stay something needs to change and I don't know what else to do. I try to be positive and get included because they won't include me, but that wears on you after a few weeks. Nobody treats me like a human, they don't ask how I'm doing, or how was my weekend on and on. Any advice appreciated. Also, any advice on finding a mentor?
 


I can hardly imagine a MT school in Milwaukee having classes that small, yikes, times must really be tough for that school! And I can't wrap my mind around a school hiring a 21 year old MT instructor either.

I can certainly understand your not wanting to carpool with someone who is not appreciative of your time or efforts on their behalf.

That he shames you when you are on the table is NOT appropriate and it is obvious that the class needs to learn about Boundaries STAT!

If approaching the instructor about the problems in the classroom personally has done no good, you will need to speak to the administration of the school.

You are a customer, purchasing a quality MT education... if they can't fulfill that they may need to place you in a different class.

Look at it this way, if you don't have a good experience in MT school... how likely are you to do well at this as a career? How likely are you to refer any potential new students to Your MT school? How likely are you to refer other MTs to this school for their Continuing Education needs?

I use this all the time and it usually pays off, it's a quote from Michael Le Bouef's book, "How to Win Customers and keep them for life."

"The average dissatisfied customer tells 26 people." That's when I tell them I am WAY above average.

MassagePlanetL has a membership of over 3800 people, while not all of them live in WI, we have quite a few members in Wisconsin, particularly in the Madison and Milwaukee areas. And some of them may be graduates of your school...

Anyway, please keep us informed about how things work out for you.
:smt056

And above all, welcome to MassagePlanetL!
 
Unacceptable..

I am 59 years old and just graduated school here in SC. My class had 22 students in the beginning (at least my half of the class). Sure there were some young folks who sort of cliqued together and thought they would just work on one another.

The Director of the program and my instructor would have none of that. They rotated partners and soon everyone was asking to be my partner and I developed some wonderful friendships with these kids. I became like their dad/gramps.

Your school needs to take care of you or they could be liable for age discrimination. Talk to someone - don't leave the profession, especially if you love it as much as I do.

Don't take it personally either. Find out if your school is accredited. If so, ask the office for their address if you do not get a resolution to your problem. They will respond to the agency for sure.

Just my two cents worth.
 


Ah the young & ungrateful youth of the world ! Not all of them are like that, but many do have an attitude of the world owes them everything. It's not till they get older that they begin to appreciate & respect other people as they should.

That said, it's not easy when you have a dream, and you run into walls in the process. I'm alot closer to your age than their's and understand your perspective. I'm also surprised that they would hire such a young instructor, who should not be taking sides, or getting chummy with similiar age students. The instructor should have a more professional approach in the position they're in, and simply use this an opportunity to state that as MT's they will be dealing with people of all ages. Therefore this is an ideal situation for them to begin to recognize that people also come from many different places in their experiences, financial backgrounds, etc. and they should begin to appreciate it, learn compassion & respect for those who've been on the planet longer than they have !

And I strongly second the advice to see the school administration, before you make the decision to leave the program & lose your investment (in both time & money) plus your dream !

Good luck.
 


Bring the issue to the school administration. No student should be subjected to the type of treatment you are receiving from the other students, and most especially not from the instructor! :evil:
 


I have a friend that began her training in a school that was newly formed. The owner was someone I knew. She was actually very technically accomplished, but her school was poorly run and made for a very chaotic learning experience.

I don't recall exactly how it transpired, but in her case people complained, the owner couldn't or wouldn't respond to their requests, they complained to the state board, and ended up getting some? all? tuition refunds. She switched mid-term to the same school I had gone to. It was in a much less convenient location, but had a long standing reputation, and she was able to get on with her training. She's been in practice for many years now.

Don't know if this will be a useful tidbit or not, but there you have it. Your situation sounds deplorable, and I can't imagine getting a quality education under those circumstances.

I was "old" when I went to school, and I was in my late 30's. Now I'm passed the half century mark myself! I hope you don't allow this to derail your dream. There's certainly a workable solution in there somewhere..............we're pulling for you!
savannah
 
update

Thanks all for the feedback. I have made efforts to talk to someone and what the school does is tell me they will get back to me 'next week' and they never do. In the mean time they hired an older gal, late 30's maybe? and she is better, but the 21 year old is still there most of the time.
I have been studying hard and still not passing the tests, and am so frustrated I could, and did, cry! The young ones get done first and there I sit while everyone is waiting for me to finish, the one guy leaves, comes back, starts talking, I question my answers, change them, they are wrong, right the first time...I am miserable. I am coming from a very diferent world, ironwork, and that was easier than dealing with so many levels of frustration at once. All the anatomy, flunked muscles, pathology, physiology everyone knows how hard it can be. I think I know the answers yet can not trasfer the knowledge to a test.
these kids drink the night before tests and before clinic! still pass the tests. yikes, who would want a hung over kid who has not even changed his clothes from the day before.
I keep being told to 'relax, breathe, don't freak out'. That makes me more stressed because that magnifies my state of mind. I wish I knew what to do to make this a positive experience.
 
I can certainly relate

Oh dear- what a situation. :(

Can you give the school a deadline to give you some answers, then follow them up by contacting them immediately on that date? Make it a point of customer satisfaction like the others have mentioned.

On a personal note-I know it's hard with your other issues- I'm twice the age of most the kids and although I'm lucky that there are a few others my age (the class I'm in is considerably bigger- 90 or so..)- I too sometimes envy their youthfulness- but I try to keep in mind that I was quite similar at that age. But don't let it distract you from YOUR goals, and don't get drawn in to their adolescent dramas. ( I'm formerly guilty of that too ..)

Don't forget to take some time out for yourself.

oh & is it possible to write the test in a room alone? Our school allows it.
If not don't forget that that test time belongs to you, again don't get distracted by the others.

ps- do you also have the option to go "part time?" I did and found it very helpful.
 
50 thing

I was asked about going into another room next time by another teacher and I will do that next time. You response is wonderful, too. People are great here, I heart you all!

The advice is well taken, and yes, there is the young drame, things I can hardly believe, but they don't get it yet. I was a party person also at that age, but was an art major, I could not even imagine working on clients hung over!

I will embrace your wisdom along with the other replies I get.

Thanks goodness I took the time to sit down and post.

Whew!
 
50 thing

coro said:
I was asked about going into another room next time by another teacher and I will do that next time. You response is wonderful, too. People are great here, I heart you all!

The advice is well taken, and yes, there is the young drame, things I can hardly believe, but they don't get it yet. I was a party person also at that age, but was an art major, I could not even imagine working on clients hung over!

I will embrace your wisdom along with the other replies I get.

Thanks goodness I took the time to sit down and post.

Whew!

From one art major to another-Your very welcome-!

Re: "they don't get it yet"

Again- with their age in mind, try to find it in your heart to allow them to be young and make their own mistakes- and don't hold it against them. Otherwise *you will* be regarded as an " ol' crotchety person! "
( remember when older people did that *to you* when you were young? ;) )

A key characteristic that will really help you in this biz is to always remain non-judgemental.

let us know how it goes!
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  27. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธ โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธ 5124 Dundas W Etobicoke 3 girls Tiffany round big breasts, sexy perky buttocks ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ Suki 36 DD large breasts, rosy nipples, small nipples, Wow ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Super great body slide ๐Ÿ‘ Luna has a slim figure and smooth, delicate skin like a little girl ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿฅฐ Welcome to enter or make an appointment โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 rear door with a large number of parking spaces
  28. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick On Username and FOLLOW USโœ… Today ๐ŸŒธRebecca๐ŸŒธEmily ๐ŸŒธCamila ๐ŸŒธHellen ๐ŸŒธAlisa โ˜Ž905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ
  29. AliceSpa:
    SATURDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 416-298-0898 3 Girls Today at Alice Spa: JULIA (10-9) from Philippines, young girl, busty, E cup, curvy short body, cute face sexy lips ๐Ÿ‘„, excellent massage and service, deep strong massage, play good, good deep bbbj, Rim , come in mouth or face, dfk ...available all menus, must try!
  30. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจClick On Username and FOLLOW USโœ… Today ๐ŸŒธValentina๐ŸŒธBarbie โ˜Ž289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ
  31. SunriseRH:
    SATURDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ SPA: JULIA. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ JULIA is a slim but curvy Spanish attendant with natural B Cups & a pretty face. She can take a load off your mind. SUNRISE SPA welcomes you to experience total relaxation in our comfortable, clean, cozy environment. Our lovely selection of beauties can totally satisfy your expectations.
  32. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Doris ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Midi ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ  address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  33. Moneylee:
    Full season Wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Connie , Student big boobs buttocks Vicky ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo , young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Linda ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  34. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Apple๐Ÿ˜˜ - Brand new girl from Taiwan just a
  35. See You Health Center:
    Suki ๐Ÿ’• From Taiwan, sweet girl Sexy tight body amazing C cups with Those incredible nipples ๐Ÿฅ‘๐Ÿฅ‘Sami๐Ÿ’• Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl She is 5โ€™ 2โ€ tall, 98 Lbs With D Cup Melons Great Fashion Style and Provides Excellent Customer โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-988-2950
  36. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Natalie ๐Ÿ’• She is from Philippines CBC Petite school girl 5โ€™ 2โ€, 100 lbs black Hairโ€จGFE, BBbj, DFK in her menu ๐Ÿฅ‘ Judy๐Ÿ’• is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl She is 5โ€™2โ€ tall. 100Lbs, with D Cup Melons Cici๐Ÿ’• Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl ๐Ÿฅ‘ โ˜Ž๏ธ647-446-0886
  37. YM203:
    MoonMoon spa/Persian girl and Jenny Yoyo in today
  38. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Foxy -๐Ÿ”ฅYour new addiction at Sparkling Spa! A tall 5โ€™7โ€ sexy Korean girl
  39. ASPA:
    SATURDAY at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Jenny, Rachel & Tracy. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ JENNY is a sexy Asian honey, about 165 Cms., slim to medium build, beautiful natural 36Cโ€™s, long sexy legs & big hips, good massage & excellent services. Jenny has sexy smooth skin and a very good personality.
  40. lotushubspa:
    Dear customers, Lotus Spa is located at 10737 Yonge St unit13. The girl who works today is named Anna๐Ÿ’‹Tina๐Ÿ’‹Mia๐Ÿ’‹. We have massages from Taiwan, China and Korea for you. First-class service. Come and try it quickly๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ’‹Please contact 9052375885๐Ÿ’‹ or SMS 4163565876๐Ÿ’‹
  41. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Michelle ๐Ÿ˜ Brand new sexy Taiwanese girl @ Annie Spa making her debut. Petite small frame, with a creamy white skin and gorgeous almond shaped face to leave you in your tracks. Excellent massage skills and very skilled open mind
  42. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MEERA, PRIYA, MONIKA, KIRAN, NINA, JIYA, PREETI, SARIKA, SANA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Anita, ~Cindy & Tray, *nicole tracy cindy Anita is a slim Asian babe with a slim waist and great bum. Anita has excellent massage and other skills. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true.
  44. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 beautiful young girls are working today, young sweet Sophia slime 30โ€™s and Young fun Ivy with big buttocks open mind, cute GFE lina and sexy young Yoyo 36DD are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  45. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธAMY & NANA. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills Nana is a slim and very sexy Korean lady, very pretty and accommodating. Come and try, you will like. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด
  46. SugarLoveSpa:
    Saturday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHERRY, LUNA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CHERRY is a young, slim, friendly and absolutely gorgeous Vietnamese beauty, 49 Kgs with Bounteous D Cups. Real pics, unreal services! BBBJ, shower together, full menu. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty nice natural 34C Cups.
  47. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธ โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธ 5124 Dundas W Etobicoke 3 girls Tiffany round big breasts, sexy perky buttocks ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ Suki 36 DD large breasts, rosy nipples, small nipples, Wow ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Super great body slide ๐Ÿ‘ Luna has a slim figure and smooth, delicate skin like a little girl ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿฅฐ Welcome to enter or make an appointment โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 rear door with a large number of parking spaces
  48. hiyamickey:
    7 girls working at Reinella wellness, 19 years old Japanese student girl Hannah, Hatti , Jenny, Cici, Lulu, Pinky, @6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  49. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ SANA, CAMILLA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  50. laluna1857:
    Nu spring spa @โค๏ธโค๏ธ Spanish โค๏ธJapaneseโค๏ธ Korean๐Ÿ‘ girls working Markham โค๏ธno rush โ˜€๏ธgood services โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508 calling more information
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