Any other short gals/guys having to modify movements?

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I was wondering if there are any other "shorties" on this forum like me (I'm 5 feet tall) that need to modifiy their massage strokes? I often have to get on the massage table in order to be able to put more pressure on the client because I don't have a long reach. It's very frustrating for me because my teacher is always pointing out that I am short but yet he doesn't even try to teach me an alternative way of doing certain strokes that need a longer reach or deeper pressure.

Any tips or tricks or even book/dvd recommendations that would be of benefit to me? I often see in my local mall very tiny Chinese women doing chair massage and many of them are even shorter than me so I know that if they can do it then there must be techniques out there geared towards us shorties.

Thanks in advance.
 


I would say first get a narrow table (28" or narrower) and lower it down as low as you can. You may need to special order a table that goes 22" high or lower. Many tables only go down to 25 or 24 inches, which is not low enough. Some tables that specify that they are for "deep tissue" or "feldenkrais" go low like this.

After doing that, then see where you are and if you still need to make adjustments.

Taking some deep tissue courses will definitely give you some more tools in that respect.

A narrow table may be too narrow for some large clients so have some table extenders nearby for those folks.

I know that's not new techniques or movement modifications, but it's all I've got! Good luck.
 


I'm not especially short, but I found wearing clogs (or having them available) was particularly helpful if I have very tall or extra big people. The extra height gives more leverage. And I keep my table really low.
savannah
 


When I'm pregnant I definately have to adjust!

On a tall client I already have trouble doing a long stroke all the way down the back just regularly - I'm 5'4" but short torso'd and thus, not super long arms.

But when I'm pregnant!! Oh my! hehehehe.

I simply step to the side of the table - almost with one foot and the head of the table and one foot down the side (think like a fencing pose when the fighters first are starting their fight). Then I can work down the full legnth of the back more easily without twisting akwardly.

I DO get on the table at times - especially when doing a sacral release, ie guiding the sacrum down and pressing the lumbar spine up towards the head to relieve tightness in the lower back. It's a lot easier for me to just pop up on one knee on the table and then back doen again. It might not be for everyone though -

AND - if you can't do it without leaning all over the client than DON'T. I went for a massage once and the person (therapist?) was leaning on me, used me to pull themselves up, sat on the table and used me as a back rest, etc. UGH!!! It felt VERY disrespectful.

I've also been to a therapist who used one of those Jane Fonda-type step-aerobics platforms which was brilliant! Stable base, wide enough to give the therapist security when she steps up and allow them to move aroudn the side of the table a bit - not TOO tall - AND easy to store under the table. When she was moving to the other side she just scootched it under the table with her foot and then used her toe to pull it out on the other side again. Brilliant! MUCH better than flopping lazily all over your client.

Angela
 


shiva...thanks for the tip on the table. I don't know if my wallet can afford a table with extenders right now as I am still a student. For that I will have to wait til' I save up some money. I am looking to take some continuing education courses after I get my certificate and so deep tissue is one of the classes I am looking to take...so hopefully I will get alittle better at techique this way. Thanks again.

Savannah... clogs might help me get alittle height but not with getting enough extension as I have short arms. I just need some tips, techniques to help me extend farther when I have clients that are tall or have very wide backs. Thanks.

Angela...I could not imagine trying to massage someone when pregnant...You are indeed very brave and I am imaginging you now getting on the table all glowing in your pregnancy and going sacral crazy on someone's back. :)

I am with you on not wanting to lean on the client and cause any discomfort... When I get on the table I make sure that I have a stepper to give me some height and I put my other foot in between the clients legs making sure not to make any contact with their body while I work their back. It works for now but is not very comfortable for me.

I really like the Jane-Fonda stepper idea... The stepper I already have is not very wide and so I will probably head down to my local Morlee's where they sell exercise equipment and see if I can find a wide stepper there. Thanks for the tips and many blessings to your baby.
 


You actually don't have to buy a new table to get table extenders (though you would have to buy a table to get a narrower table, and they are generally cheaper than other tables). Here is the first one I found when searching:

Table Extenders for $50

I totally understand being on a budget while you're in school, and long after!! :)

And getting more height will actually give your arms a longer reach. That is also why lowering the table will help. It will make you "taller" compared to the table and the client and thus a bit easier to reach across.

When Angela said:
I simply step to the side of the table - almost with one foot and the head of the table and one foot down the side (think like a fencing pose when the fighters first are starting their fight). Then I can work down the full legnth of the back more easily without twisting akwardly.
I think that's the best body modification I could think of as well.
 


I agree on the short table. Am sending you a PM as well.

Oakworks makes a table with Worksmart upgrades that may be quite helpful in this situation.
 


I disagree with the purchase of a narrow table. I used one and had the arm extenders and it worked okay. But most of my clients don't feel comfortable on the smaller tables. Large people do NOT fit on thes and legs and arms are falling all over the place. I know I don't like the narrow tables and I am tiny. They just seem chintzy to me.

I am 5'2". I do a lot of work from the side of the table, I drop the table lower, AND I also used a step platform if I needed more height. I brace myself or get on the table all the time - especially for table stretches for hamstrings - clients don't mind if you are respectful of their body and space. My next table will be electric or hydraulic so I can raise and lower if I need to, with an adjustable back.
 


squash_blsm said:
I disagree with the purchase of a narrow table. I used one and had the arm extenders and it worked okay. But most of my clients don't feel comfortable on the smaller tables. Large people do NOT fit on thes and legs and arms are falling all over the place. I know I don't like the narrow tables and I am tiny. They just seem chintzy to me.

I am 5'2". I do a lot of work from the side of the table, I drop the table lower, AND I also used a step platform if I needed more height. I brace myself or get on the table all the time - especially for table stretches for hamstrings - clients don't mind if you are respectful of their body and space. My next table will be electric or hydraulic so I can raise and lower if I need to, with an adjustable back.

Ditto to all of this. I've developed a reputation for "getting the job done" amongst some local bodybuilders. If I had a narrow table they would not be able to easily roll over to their backs. Also - a friend actually had an older, heavy set woman who rolled OFF her narrow table so I have never/will never use them.

In fact - I prefer the wider ones because I have a place to get on the table when needed. Usually only one knee is on the table when I'm on the table - the other hanging down the side of the table which gives me better balance. I am then high enough to do the myofascial release of the lower back with comfort and ease to me, and greater effectiveness to the client.

I also get one knee up on the table when doing active leg stretches/releases with some clients - especially longer legged clients! *laughing*

Angela
 
I believe in sizing the table to the clients hip width and not the shoulders. As mentioned above with side extenders of 3" it will add 6" total. Changing a 24" table to a 30" standard width. With my table I can add and remove the width during the session without moving the client. A standard stable table might be a bit of a hassle. As well those hour glass shaped table work well.
Not disagreeing with anyone. I think it comes down to who you work on the most, wide or thin bodies, and what type of work you do. Every session I do is DT or needs some leverage. A narrow table is a must for me. Consider this....20 years from now you may be paying for reaching out and pressing down on a wide table. It'll blow your elbows up if you are not careful. Swedish or MF unwinding would be different. But a deep tissue therapist should strongly consider getting a narrow lift table with extensions. I love my Stacy Built Back Saver table. I am still doing massage 25 years later due mostly to having a table that moves for the last 15 years. A $2500 investment makes for a longer career IMO.
http://www.stacysystems.com/


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NC_kneader wrote:I'm short.I've had use of 16 different tables from 5 different manufacturers and have never met a table that didn't adjust. Only one didn't adjust low enough for a specific technique (DT), and I used a step stool to get up to rest one knee on the table. Our school had small plastic step stools, for both client and therapist use. In my own office, I would opt for a step platform like Angie mentioned because it would allow me more freedom of movement down the side of the table.I've found that side-lying position often provides me easier access than prone position, especially with "barrel" chested individuals.

Thank you for posting on your experience with steppers... I had never thought to use a side-lying position for larger/taller clients. Very good to know. Next week we will begin pre-natal massage where the side-lying position is used. I will try this out on another student in my class who is as you describe "barrel chested". Thanks again.

[quote="NC_kneader"][size=117]I'm short.I've had use of 16 different tables from 5 different manufacturers and have never met a table that didn't adjust. Only one didn't adjust low enough for a specific technique (DT), and I used a step stool to get up to rest one knee on the table. Our school had small plastic step stools, for both client and therapist use. In my own office, I would opt for a step platform like Angie mentioned because it would allow me more freedom of movement down the side of the table.I've found that side-lying position often provides me easier access than prone position, especially with "barrel" chested individuals.[/size][/quote]

Thank you for posting on your experience with steppers... I had never thought to use a side-lying position for larger/taller clients. Very good to know. Next week we will begin pre-natal massage where the side-lying position is used. I will try this out on another student in my class who is as you describe "barrel chested". Thanks again.











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I'm short.I've had use of 16 different tables from 5 different manufacturers and have never met a table that didn't adjust. Only one didn't adjust low enough for a specific technique (DT), and I used a step stool to get up to rest one knee on the table. Our school had small plastic step stools, for both client and therapist use. In my own office, I would opt for a step platform like Angie mentioned because it would allow me more freedom of movement down the side of the table.I've found that side-lying position often provides me easier access than prone position, especially with "barrel" chested individuals.

[size=117]I'm short.I've had use of 16 different tables from 5 different manufacturers and have never met a table that didn't adjust. Only one didn't adjust low enough for a specific technique (DT), and I used a step stool to get up to rest one knee on the table. Our school had small plastic step stools, for both client and therapist use. In my own office, I would opt for a step platform like Angie mentioned because it would allow me more freedom of movement down the side of the table.I've found that side-lying position often provides me easier access than prone position, especially with "barrel" chested individuals.[/size]











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Rose of Sharon wrote:Hydro4Vita wrote:It's educational reading the posts on the varying tables but I am not looking to purchase a table. I am still in school and am not interested at the moment in going into business on my own so I have no need for my own table.I basically just want tips and techniques on getting better extension and pressure in my strokes regardless of table width or height. That is why I asked for other massage therapists who are on the short side to give me their insight on how they deal with giving a massage to clients on various types of tables.... because in the end it will not be my choice but my employer's choice on which table(s) I will be using to give massage treatments.Thanks for the posts.To extend your strokes, just walk along beside the table. Don't feel that you have to plant your feet and do a stroke from that position - work from your feet right on up to and through your arms and hands. If the table is too high (though it may not be, I'm 5'2" and lowering the table is *not* always the best answer), bending the arms and using forearms and elbows rather than hands to do the stroke will make a huge difference to your body mechanics. There is a technique called the "forearm dance" that may be helpful to learn. We didn't learn that specific technique, but our instructors did have us experiment with our forearms and elbows in class. You can experiment without specific instruction, since your school is not providing assistance with that. As far as reaching, though, you just have to go wherever you need to be to put pressure where you need to put pressure. Standing in one spot and making one long stroke is probably never going to work, regardless of what table you are using. Practice walking around the table as you massage, and it won't take long before you feel very comfortable doing it and your strokes feel just as smooth to the client as they've ever known.

Great to hear from another "shortie"... I have never heard of the "forearm dance" technique but will look it up for sure. I agree with you about lowering the table NOT always being helpful. There are times when if I lower the table to the last notch that I find it really does a number on my knees because I have to bend way too far down.

Thanks for describing your reach technique... very helpful. So far what seems to make sense in trying it out in real time practice is the long width exercise stepper and your reach technique which I immediately tried out by putting my mother on the dining room table. LOL The dining room table is about the same height as the one used in school.

I just need to practice, practice, practice and get comfortable as you just pointed out.

Thanks and have a great day.

[quote="Rose of Sharon"][quote="Hydro4Vita"]It's educational reading the posts on the varying tables [b][u]but I am not looking to purchase a table.[/u] [/b]I am still in school and[b] am not interested at the moment in going into business on my own so I have no need for my own table.[/b]I basically just want tips and techniques on getting better extension and pressure in my strokes regardless of table width or height. That is why I asked for other massage therapists who are on the short side to give me their insight on how they deal with giving a massage to clients on various types of tables.... because in the end it will not be my choice but my employer's choice on which table(s) I will be using to give massage treatments.Thanks for the posts.[/quote]To extend your strokes, just walk along beside the table. Don't feel that you have to plant your feet and do a stroke from that position - work from your feet right on up to and through your arms and hands. If the table is too high (though it may not be, I'm 5'2" and lowering the table is *not* always the best answer), bending the arms and using forearms and elbows rather than hands to do the stroke will make a huge difference to your body mechanics. There is a technique called the "forearm dance" that may be helpful to learn. We didn't learn that specific technique, but our instructors did have us experiment with our forearms and elbows in class. You can experiment without specific instruction, since your school is not providing assistance with that. As far as reaching, though, you just have to go wherever you need to be to put pressure where you need to put pressure. Standing in one spot and making one long stroke is probably never going to work, regardless of what table you are using. Practice walking around the table as you massage, and it won't take long before you feel very comfortable doing it and your strokes feel just as smooth to the client as they've ever known.[/quote]

Great to hear from another "shortie"... ;) I have never heard of the "forearm dance" technique but will look it up for sure. I agree with you about lowering the table NOT always being helpful. There are times when if I lower the table to the last notch that I find it really does a number on my knees because I have to bend way too far down.

Thanks for describing your reach technique... very helpful. So far what seems to make sense in trying it out in real time practice is the long width exercise stepper and your reach technique which I immediately tried out by putting my mother on the dining room table. LOL The dining room table is about the same height as the one used in school. :P

I just need to practice, practice, practice and get comfortable as you just pointed out.

Thanks and have a great day.











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nolalmt wrote:Hydro4Vita wrote: I am not interested at the moment in going into business on my own so I have no need for my own table.Alright, straight to the point. You ask veteran therapist about body mechanics. You will not be able to work on a table that does not fit you and learning NO body mechanics from a school that is not preparing you. Your asking for a fix that won't work. Suck it up, buy a proper table and carry that to your employers. Statistically you'll last about a year otherwise. It sounds like the real problem is your school is not teaching you what you need to know and your not willing to hear what you need to hear. Buy a Sams table for $200 and get the legs chopped by 2" or so. Easy to do and you'll have a table that won't shorten your career.

It's not about sucking it up...it's about finances. I cannot afford to buy a table...I have ZERO extra dollars at the moment. Yes, my school is not preparing me as it should but I see no harm in asking for tips and techniques that I can on my own try out during practice time and if it works fine...if not then I don't lose anything.

Thanks.

[quote="nolalmt"][quote="Hydro4Vita"] I am not interested at the moment in going into business on my own so I have no need for my own table.[/quote]Alright, straight to the point. You ask veteran therapist about body mechanics. [b]You will not be able to work on a table that does not fit you and learning NO body mechanics from a school that is not preparing you. [/b]Your asking for a fix that won't work. Suck it up, buy a proper table and carry that to your employers. [b]Statistically you'll last about a year otherwise[/b]. It sounds like the real problem is your school is not teaching you what you need to know and your not willing to hear what you need to hear. Buy a Sams table for $200 and get the legs chopped by 2" or so. Easy to do and you'll have a table that won't shorten your career.[/quote]

It's not about sucking it up...it's about finances. I cannot afford to buy a table...I have ZERO extra dollars at the moment. Yes, my school is not preparing me as it should but I see no harm in asking for tips and techniques that I can on my own try out during practice time and if it works fine...if not then I don't lose anything.

Thanks.











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Hydro4Vita wrote:It's educational reading the posts on the varying tables but I am not looking to purchase a table. I am still in school and am not interested at the moment in going into business on my own so I have no need for my own table.I basically just want tips and techniques on getting better extension and pressure in my strokes regardless of table width or height. That is why I asked for other massage therapists who are on the short side to give me their insight on how they deal with giving a massage to clients on various types of tables.... because in the end it will not be my choice but my employer's choice on which table(s) I will be using to give massage treatments.Thanks for the posts.

To extend your strokes, just walk along beside the table. Don't feel that you have to plant your feet and do a stroke from that position - work from your feet right on up to and through your arms and hands. If the table is too high (though it may not be, I'm 5'2" and lowering the table is *not* always the best answer), bending the arms and using forearms and elbows rather than hands to do the stroke will make a huge difference to your body mechanics. There is a technique called the "forearm dance" that may be helpful to learn. We didn't learn that specific technique, but our instructors did have us experiment with our forearms and elbows in class. You can experiment without specific instruction, since your school is not providing assistance with that. As far as reaching, though, you just have to go wherever you need to be to put pressure where you need to put pressure. Standing in one spot and making one long stroke is probably never going to work, regardless of what table you are using. Practice walking around the table as you massage, and it won't take long before you feel very comfortable doing it and your strokes feel just as smooth to the client as they've ever known.

[quote="Hydro4Vita"]It's educational reading the posts on the varying tables [b][u]but I am not looking to purchase a table.[/u] [/b]I am still in school and[b] am not interested at the moment in going into business on my own so I have no need for my own table.[/b]I basically just want tips and techniques on getting better extension and pressure in my strokes regardless of table width or height. That is why I asked for other massage therapists who are on the short side to give me their insight on how they deal with giving a massage to clients on various types of tables.... because in the end it will not be my choice but my employer's choice on which table(s) I will be using to give massage treatments.Thanks for the posts.[/quote]

To extend your strokes, just walk along beside the table. Don't feel that you have to plant your feet and do a stroke from that position - work from your feet right on up to and through your arms and hands. If the table is too high (though it may not be, I'm 5'2" and lowering the table is *not* always the best answer), bending the arms and using forearms and elbows rather than hands to do the stroke will make a huge difference to your body mechanics. There is a technique called the "forearm dance" that may be helpful to learn. We didn't learn that specific technique, but our instructors did have us experiment with our forearms and elbows in class. You can experiment without specific instruction, since your school is not providing assistance with that. As far as reaching, though, you just have to go wherever you need to be to put pressure where you need to put pressure. Standing in one spot and making one long stroke is probably never going to work, regardless of what table you are using. Practice walking around the table as you massage, and it won't take long before you feel very comfortable doing it and your strokes feel just as smooth to the client as they've ever known.











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Hydro4Vita wrote: I am not interested at the moment in going into business on my own so I have no need for my own table.

Alright, straight to the point. You ask veteran therapist about body mechanics. You will not be able to work on a table that does not fit you and learning NO body mechanics from a school that is not preparing you. Your asking for a fix that won't work. Suck it up, buy a proper table and carry that to your employers. Statistically you'll last about a year otherwise. It sounds like the real problem is your school is not teaching you what you need to know and your not willing to hear what you need to hear. Buy a Sams table for $200 and get the legs chopped by 2" or so. Easy to do and you'll have a table that won't shorten your career.

[quote="Hydro4Vita"] I am not interested at the moment in going into business on my own so I have no need for my own table.[/quote]

Alright, straight to the point. You ask veteran therapist about body mechanics. [b]You will not be able to work on a table that does not fit you and learning NO body mechanics from a school that is not preparing you. [/b]Your asking for a fix that won't work. Suck it up, buy a proper table and carry that to your employers. [b]Statistically you'll last about a year otherwise[/b]. It sounds like the real problem is your school is not teaching you what you need to know and your not willing to hear what you need to hear. Buy a Sams table for $200 and get the legs chopped by 2" or so. Easy to do and you'll have a table that won't shorten your career.











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It's educational reading the posts on the varying tables but I am not looking to purchase a table. I am still in school and am not interested at the moment in going into business on my own so I have no need for my own table.

I basically just want tips and techniques on getting better extension and pressure in my strokes regardless of table width or height. That is why I asked for other massage therapists who are on the short side to give me their insight on how they deal with giving a massage to clients on various types of tables.

... because in the end it will not be my choice but my employer's choice on which table(s) I will be using to give massage treatments.

Thanks for the posts.

It's educational reading the posts on the varying tables [b][u]but I am not looking to purchase a table.[/u] [/b]I am still in school and[b] am not interested at the moment in going into business on my own so I have no need for my own table.[/b]

I basically just want tips and techniques on getting better extension and pressure in my strokes regardless of table width or height. That is why I asked for other massage therapists who are on the short side to give me their insight on how they deal with giving a massage to clients on various types of tables.

... because in the end it will not be my choice but my employer's choice on which table(s) I will be using to give massage treatments.

Thanks for the posts.











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I believe in sizing the table to the clients hip width and not the shoulders. As mentioned above with side extenders of 3" it will add 6" total. Changing a 24" table to a 30" standard width. With my table I can add and remove the width during the session without moving the client. A standard stable table might be a bit of a hassle. As well those hour glass shaped table work well.
Not disagreeing with anyone. I think it comes down to who you work on the most, wide or thin bodies, and what type of work you do. Every session I do is DT or needs some leverage. A narrow table is a must for me. Consider this....20 years from now you may be paying for reaching out and pressing down on a wide table. It'll blow your elbows up if you are not careful. Swedish or MF unwinding would be different. But a deep tissue therapist should strongly consider getting a narrow lift table with extensions. I love my Stacy Built Back Saver table. I am still doing massage 25 years later due mostly to having a table that moves for the last 15 years. A $2500 investment makes for a longer career IMO.
http://www.stacysystems.com/

I believe in sizing the table to the clients hip width and not the shoulders. As mentioned above with side extenders of 3" it will add 6" total. Changing a 24" table to a 30" standard width. With my table I can add and remove the width during the session without moving the client. A standard stable table might be a bit of a hassle. As well those hour glass shaped table work well.
Not disagreeing with anyone. I think it comes down to who you work on the most, wide or thin bodies, and what type of work you do. Every session I do is DT or needs some leverage. A narrow table is a must for me. Consider this....20 years from now you may be paying for reaching out and pressing down on a wide table. It'll blow your elbows up if you are not careful. Swedish or MF unwinding would be different. But a deep tissue therapist should strongly consider getting a narrow lift table with extensions. I love my Stacy Built Back Saver table. I am still doing massage 25 years later due mostly to having a table that moves for the last 15 years. A $2500 investment makes for a longer career IMO.
[url]http://www.stacysystems.com/[/url]











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squash_blsm wrote:I disagree with the purchase of a narrow table. I used one and had the arm extenders and it worked okay. But most of my clients don't feel comfortable on the smaller tables. Large people do NOT fit on thes and legs and arms are falling all over the place. I know I don't like the narrow tables and I am tiny. They just seem chintzy to me.I am 5'2". I do a lot of work from the side of the table, I drop the table lower, AND I also used a step platform if I needed more height. I brace myself or get on the table all the time - especially for table stretches for hamstrings - clients don't mind if you are respectful of their body and space. My next table will be electric or hydraulic so I can raise and lower if I need to, with an adjustable back.

Ditto to all of this. I've developed a reputation for "getting the job done" amongst some local bodybuilders. If I had a narrow table they would not be able to easily roll over to their backs. Also - a friend actually had an older, heavy set woman who rolled OFF her narrow table so I have never/will never use them.

In fact - I prefer the wider ones because I have a place to get on the table when needed. Usually only one knee is on the table when I'm on the table - the other hanging down the side of the table which gives me better balance. I am then high enough to do the myofascial release of the lower back with comfort and ease to me, and greater effectiveness to the client.

I also get one knee up on the table when doing active leg stretches/releases with some clients - especially longer legged clients! *laughing*

Angela
 


It's educational reading the posts on the varying tables but I am not looking to purchase a table. I am still in school and am not interested at the moment in going into business on my own so I have no need for my own table.

I basically just want tips and techniques on getting better extension and pressure in my strokes regardless of table width or height. That is why I asked for other massage therapists who are on the short side to give me their insight on how they deal with giving a massage to clients on various types of tables.

... because in the end it will not be my choice but my employer's choice on which table(s) I will be using to give massage treatments.

Thanks for the posts.
 


Hydro4Vita said:
I am not interested at the moment in going into business on my own so I have no need for my own table.

Alright, straight to the point. You ask veteran therapist about body mechanics. You will not be able to work on a table that does not fit you and learning NO body mechanics from a school that is not preparing you. Your asking for a fix that won't work. Suck it up, buy a proper table and carry that to your employers. Statistically you'll last about a year otherwise. It sounds like the real problem is your school is not teaching you what you need to know and your not willing to hear what you need to hear. Buy a Sams table for $200 and get the legs chopped by 2" or so. Easy to do and you'll have a table that won't shorten your career.
 


Hydro4Vita said:
It's educational reading the posts on the varying tables but I am not looking to purchase a table. I am still in school and am not interested at the moment in going into business on my own so I have no need for my own table.

I basically just want tips and techniques on getting better extension and pressure in my strokes regardless of table width or height. That is why I asked for other massage therapists who are on the short side to give me their insight on how they deal with giving a massage to clients on various types of tables.

... because in the end it will not be my choice but my employer's choice on which table(s) I will be using to give massage treatments.

Thanks for the posts.

To extend your strokes, just walk along beside the table. Don't feel that you have to plant your feet and do a stroke from that position - work from your feet right on up to and through your arms and hands. If the table is too high (though it may not be, I'm 5'2" and lowering the table is *not* always the best answer), bending the arms and using forearms and elbows rather than hands to do the stroke will make a huge difference to your body mechanics. There is a technique called the "forearm dance" that may be helpful to learn. We didn't learn that specific technique, but our instructors did have us experiment with our forearms and elbows in class. You can experiment without specific instruction, since your school is not providing assistance with that. As far as reaching, though, you just have to go wherever you need to be to put pressure where you need to put pressure. Standing in one spot and making one long stroke is probably never going to work, regardless of what table you are using. Practice walking around the table as you massage, and it won't take long before you feel very comfortable doing it and your strokes feel just as smooth to the client as they've ever known.
 


nolalmt said:
Hydro4Vita said:
I am not interested at the moment in going into business on my own so I have no need for my own table.

Alright, straight to the point. You ask veteran therapist about body mechanics. You will not be able to work on a table that does not fit you and learning NO body mechanics from a school that is not preparing you. Your asking for a fix that won't work. Suck it up, buy a proper table and carry that to your employers. Statistically you'll last about a year otherwise. It sounds like the real problem is your school is not teaching you what you need to know and your not willing to hear what you need to hear. Buy a Sams table for $200 and get the legs chopped by 2" or so. Easy to do and you'll have a table that won't shorten your career.

It's not about sucking it up...it's about finances. I cannot afford to buy a table...I have ZERO extra dollars at the moment. Yes, my school is not preparing me as it should but I see no harm in asking for tips and techniques that I can on my own try out during practice time and if it works fine...if not then I don't lose anything.

Thanks.
 


Rose of Sharon said:
Hydro4Vita said:
It's educational reading the posts on the varying tables but I am not looking to purchase a table. I am still in school and am not interested at the moment in going into business on my own so I have no need for my own table.

I basically just want tips and techniques on getting better extension and pressure in my strokes regardless of table width or height. That is why I asked for other massage therapists who are on the short side to give me their insight on how they deal with giving a massage to clients on various types of tables.

... because in the end it will not be my choice but my employer's choice on which table(s) I will be using to give massage treatments.

Thanks for the posts.

To extend your strokes, just walk along beside the table. Don't feel that you have to plant your feet and do a stroke from that position - work from your feet right on up to and through your arms and hands. If the table is too high (though it may not be, I'm 5'2" and lowering the table is *not* always the best answer), bending the arms and using forearms and elbows rather than hands to do the stroke will make a huge difference to your body mechanics. There is a technique called the "forearm dance" that may be helpful to learn. We didn't learn that specific technique, but our instructors did have us experiment with our forearms and elbows in class. You can experiment without specific instruction, since your school is not providing assistance with that. As far as reaching, though, you just have to go wherever you need to be to put pressure where you need to put pressure. Standing in one spot and making one long stroke is probably never going to work, regardless of what table you are using. Practice walking around the table as you massage, and it won't take long before you feel very comfortable doing it and your strokes feel just as smooth to the client as they've ever known.

Great to hear from another "shortie"... ;) I have never heard of the "forearm dance" technique but will look it up for sure. I agree with you about lowering the table NOT always being helpful. There are times when if I lower the table to the last notch that I find it really does a number on my knees because I have to bend way too far down.

Thanks for describing your reach technique... very helpful. So far what seems to make sense in trying it out in real time practice is the long width exercise stepper and your reach technique which I immediately tried out by putting my mother on the dining room table. LOL The dining room table is about the same height as the one used in school. :p

I just need to practice, practice, practice and get comfortable as you just pointed out.

Thanks and have a great day.
 
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  35. AliceSpa:
    SATURDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 416-298-0898 3 Girls Today at Alice Spa: JULIA (10-9) from Philippines, young girl, busty, E cup, curvy short body, cute face sexy lips ๐Ÿ‘„, excellent massage and service, deep strong massage, play good, good deep bbbj, Rim , come in mouth or face, dfk ...available all menus, must try!
  36. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจClick On Username and FOLLOW USโœ… Today ๐ŸŒธValentina๐ŸŒธBarbie โ˜Ž289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ
  37. SunriseRH:
    SATURDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ SPA: JULIA. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ JULIA is a slim but curvy Spanish attendant with natural B Cups & a pretty face. She can take a load off your mind. SUNRISE SPA welcomes you to experience total relaxation in our comfortable, clean, cozy environment. Our lovely selection of beauties can totally satisfy your expectations.
  38. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Doris ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Midi ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ  address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  39. Moneylee:
    Full season Wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Connie , Student big boobs buttocks Vicky ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo , young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Linda ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Apple๐Ÿ˜˜ - Brand new girl from Taiwan just a
  41. See You Health Center:
    Suki ๐Ÿ’• From Taiwan, sweet girl Sexy tight body amazing C cups with Those incredible nipples ๐Ÿฅ‘๐Ÿฅ‘Sami๐Ÿ’• Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl She is 5โ€™ 2โ€ tall, 98 Lbs With D Cup Melons Great Fashion Style and Provides Excellent Customer โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-988-2950
  42. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Natalie ๐Ÿ’• She is from Philippines CBC Petite school girl 5โ€™ 2โ€, 100 lbs black Hairโ€จGFE, BBbj, DFK in her menu ๐Ÿฅ‘ Judy๐Ÿ’• is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl She is 5โ€™2โ€ tall. 100Lbs, with D Cup Melons Cici๐Ÿ’• Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl ๐Ÿฅ‘ โ˜Ž๏ธ647-446-0886
  43. YM203:
    MoonMoon spa/Persian girl and Jenny Yoyo in today
  44. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Foxy -๐Ÿ”ฅYour new addiction at Sparkling Spa! A tall 5โ€™7โ€ sexy Korean girl
  45. ASPA:
    SATURDAY at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Jenny, Rachel & Tracy. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ JENNY is a sexy Asian honey, about 165 Cms., slim to medium build, beautiful natural 36Cโ€™s, long sexy legs & big hips, good massage & excellent services. Jenny has sexy smooth skin and a very good personality.
  46. lotushubspa:
    Dear customers, Lotus Spa is located at 10737 Yonge St unit13. The girl who works today is named Anna๐Ÿ’‹Tina๐Ÿ’‹Mia๐Ÿ’‹. We have massages from Taiwan, China and Korea for you. First-class service. Come and try it quickly๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ’‹Please contact 9052375885๐Ÿ’‹ or SMS 4163565876๐Ÿ’‹
  47. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Michelle ๐Ÿ˜ Brand new sexy Taiwanese girl @ Annie Spa making her debut. Petite small frame, with a creamy white skin and gorgeous almond shaped face to leave you in your tracks. Excellent massage skills and very skilled open mind
  48. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MEERA, PRIYA, MONIKA, KIRAN, NINA, JIYA, PREETI, SARIKA, SANA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  49. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Anita, ~Cindy & Tray, *nicole tracy cindy Anita is a slim Asian babe with a slim waist and great bum. Anita has excellent massage and other skills. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true.
  50. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 beautiful young girls are working today, young sweet Sophia slime 30โ€™s and Young fun Ivy with big buttocks open mind, cute GFE lina and sexy young Yoyo 36DD are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
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