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asian bosses can be pain in the butt to work with. A lot of them are quite stubborn just like the mpas.

you shouldn't tell krayjee your intention. You are on officially on Krayjee's hit list in order to protect his turf and his empire.
I thought he was asking how he goes about Caddying for him on the course.
My bad.
 
I love this discussion, I've had it many times with the attendants and seen it at many spas myself.

The way it works with "most" holistic spas is the girls don't get any of the room fees. So if it's $40 for half an hour, that goes entirely to the spa. Meaning they work on tips alone. Some of the Asian places are cheaper usually because the owner does the massage herself and pockets the room fee along with whatever tip is provided so $100 total works for her. Or the owner will take a hit for the $40 room fee and pay commission to the attendant if the tip was adequate. Now I say "most" holistic spas because some pay commission and even some of the busier or stricter ones charge the attendants a shift fee.

RMT Asian locations work on commission, meaning while you'll see signs for and pay $60 for an hour RMT massage. The attendant doing the "RMT" massage won't actually have an RMT license but the receipt printed for your insurance will go through the owner's RMT license even though they didn't provide the service. I'm guessing the attendant would get a commission off that $60 plus the small tip for the massage.

Bodyrubs tend to be all-inclusive until you get in the room and want upgrades. Although some owners are strict and won't allow attendants to request more money. I'm limited to my knowledge of bodyrubs but this is my understanding of places I've been to myself.

What really makes it difficult for the attendants is explaining this to the first-time customers, especially those whose English is a little broken or lacking. It's also a little demeaning to offer a low price for a service they are providing, haggling over the typical price usually isn't a good way to start a session. This constant battle every day would put anyone in a foul mood, but most attendants have thick skin and march on dealing with the many problems that can walk in the door. I honestly think they are champs dealing with this day in and out and still staying positive and coming back to work. 👍
just list the total fee to avoid confusions.
 
I love this discussion, I've had it many times with the attendants and seen it at many spas myself.

The way it works with "most" holistic spas is the girls don't get any of the room fees. So if it's $40 for half an hour, that goes entirely to the spa. Meaning they work on tips alone. Some of the Asian places are cheaper usually because the owner does the massage herself and pockets the room fee along with whatever tip is provided so $100 total works for her. Or the owner will take a hit for the $40 room fee and pay commission to the attendant if the tip was adequate. Now I say "most" holistic spas because some pay commission and even some of the busier or stricter ones charge the attendants a shift fee.

RMT Asian locations work on commission, meaning while you'll see signs for and pay $60 for an hour RMT massage. The attendant doing the "RMT" massage won't actually have an RMT license but the receipt printed for your insurance will go through the owner's RMT license even though they didn't provide the service. I'm guessing the attendant would get a commission off that $60 plus the small tip for the massage.

Bodyrubs tend to be all-inclusive until you get in the room and want upgrades. Although some owners are strict and won't allow attendants to request more money. I'm limited to my knowledge of bodyrubs but this is my understanding of places I've been to myself.

What really makes it difficult for the attendants is explaining this to the first-time customers, especially those whose English is a little broken or lacking. It's also a little demeaning to offer a low price for a service they are providing, haggling over the typical price usually isn't a good way to start a session. This constant battle every day would put anyone in a foul mood, but most attendants have thick skin and march on dealing with the many problems that can walk in the door. I honestly think they are champs dealing with this day in and out and still staying positive and coming back to work. 👍
… body rubs like Flirt, they keep like 50 of the 140… when Flirt has specials, still charge $90… they give rms 4 free, but girls gotta b paid…. 💰

Shangri-La gives girls some of rm fee…. Notice girls nvr quit there? But I no most dont…

Incredible some losers think $10 tip = hj… like u have a right 2 have strangers give u an orgasm? :cum1 … intimate contact w strangers needs either cash … or time & talent! :D

… even heard some lame excuse that girl gave hj w/o askng… SMH…

Anna @ GW offered 2 give me HJ 3 times, & I repeated No! Nuthin happens till u say Yes…. & it coulda been freebie, I dont care, when girls not my type… :lol … anyway, eventually Kelly helped me out, thatsa different story…
 
just list the total fee to avoid confusions.
For legal reasons and people wanting different services are the reason we can't list nor assume what the total fee would be for a particular client..
 
How come Anna offered to give you HJ? Her girls were busy?


… body rubs like Flirt, they keep like 50 of the 140… when Flirt has specials, still charge $90… they give rms 4 free, but girls gotta b paid…. 💰

Shangri-La gives girls some of rm fee…. Notice girls nvr quit there? But I no most dont…

Incredible some losers think $10 tip = hj… like u have a right 2 have strangers give u an orgasm? :cum1 … intimate contact w strangers needs either cash … or time & talent! :D

… even heard some lame excuse that girl gave hj w/o askng… SMH…

Anna @ GW offered 2 give me HJ 3 times, & I repeated No! Nuthin happens till u say Yes…. & it coulda been freebie, I dont care, when girls not my type… :lol … anyway, eventually Kelly helped me out, thatsa different story…
 
Tipping...🤣

You can grab my share of tip from the dude after me.

🤣🤡
 
Can I just ask everyone’s opinion. Not including room fees. Hj $40. Cbj $80. Fs $100-120.
What’s $60 then?

so if you’re paying more than $80 total for hh he you’re paying too much, is that correct?
 
Can I just ask everyone’s opinion. Not including room fees. Hj $40. Cbj $80. Fs $100-120.
What’s $60 then?

so if you’re paying more than $80 total for hh he you’re paying too much, is that correct?

$60 is typically nude Massage or Nude reverse. $80 bodyslide. Maybe cbj too
 
How come Anna offered to give you HJ? Her girls were busy?
… she digs me…. :unsure

… Kelly stuck her head in the door… damn! Kelly’s pretty when those distractions aren’t there… :heart1

I said, can I do xxtras w her? … she’s kinda taken aback, surprised, then says, Sure! I’d been there 55 min, & she agreed, stay w her 30 min, call it 60 rm fee total, just tips 2 Kelly…

So 60 rm, 60 tips, 90 min, HE w Kelly… reviewed elsewhere… (shhh 🤫 dont tell Crystal)
 
But she tried 3 times? She likes you that much? 😂

… she digs me…. :unsure

… Kelly stuck her head in the door… damn! Kelly’s pretty when those distractions aren’t there… :heart1

I said, can I do xxtras w her? … she’s kinda taken aback, surprised, then says, Sure! I’d been there 55 min, & she agreed, stay w her 30 min, call it 60 rm fee total, just tips 2 Kelly…

So 60 rm, 60 tips, 90 min, HE w Kelly… reviewed elsewhere… (shhh 🤫 dont tell Crystal)
 
LOL "behind the curtain"
Well outside of the pun. Hanging out in the office with the ladies you see and hear a lot. Worse when you can understand the language. The illusion is completely gone. However unlike some I provide them a service (non-sexual) of course so I am found useful

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Again. You are wrong. Anything, and I mean anything besides a massage is an extra and therefor a tip worthy service.

It is men like you who are ruining the trust of the women in the industry. You need to find another, less expensive hobby, or learn and play by the rules.

My friend, I spend thousands of dollars a week on escorts and massage parlors.

Places like:

QQ Spa, Seductions, Perla, Flirt, Steeles Royal, Pure, Vaughn Spa, Sunshine, and many others that are "body rub" places the handjob is included in the basic service.

If you are talking about holistic places or other places where the price of admission is $80/30 minutes that is a different story.

I have very openly admitted that the bulk of my hobbying is with escorts because I don't find that massage parlors offer a true GFE experience. I would not claim to know everything about every kind of massage. What I would assume as a client is, if you are paying $140/30 min or more for the service then you are in a bodyrub place and if so the handjob is included.

I could be wrong, because I never go into these places looking for a handjob but most conversations I have had with MPAs is that the handjob is included. I emphasize again AT PLACES SUCH AS THE ONES LISTED ABOVE, no clue what the market prices are for holistic etc...
 
Seems to me like you only go to fuck spas and don't have a good clue about what semi legit spa girls do. There are lots of semi legit spa girls who can provide much much better massage than licensed RMTs. I go to semi legit spas like JR and E&M quite often and sometimes to Kelly spa just for a good massage, whether I got a HE or not I always tip them $40 and up. I and a few of my friedns used to see Elaine and Daisy at Kelly spa regularly and we all tip $40 and up without any HE , a good massage and great personalty deserves a good tip. Your way of thinking only those who rubbed you , suck you and fuck you deserve good tip just appalled me. I have zero respect for guys like you.

Have you ever seen me write a review or comment on anything other than the "fuck spas"? So you may be right. The only "semi legit places" I have been to are the two or three places in Markham that have Saunas + Massage, and I have never had any interest in trying to get anything other than a massage there.
 
Licensed body rub like Flirt, HJ included … AMP, it’s not… so depends

… Flirt rm fee= $140… u can get fucked (cbj/cfs) @ AMP in West End for same $$$ :sex

… that’s what they ask BTW… I gave Lily @ eSpa $120 … totally earned it included CFS & bbbjcim finish… & she gave me $20 back! 😯 … she’s special, but most girls ask $100…

… incredible this FU comes here like some kinda expert & doesn’t no this… :no

I never claimed to be an expert in everything massage con artist :zorro
 
I love this discussion, I've had it many times with the attendants and seen it at many spas myself.

The way it works with "most" holistic spas is the girls don't get any of the room fees. So if it's $40 for half an hour, that goes entirely to the spa. Meaning they work on tips alone. Some of the Asian places are cheaper usually because the owner does the massage herself and pockets the room fee along with whatever tip is provided so $100 total works for her. Or the owner will take a hit for the $40 room fee and pay commission to the attendant if the tip was adequate. Now I say "most" holistic spas because some pay commission and even some of the busier or stricter ones charge the attendants a shift fee.

RMT Asian locations work on commission, meaning while you'll see signs for and pay $60 for an hour RMT massage. The attendant doing the "RMT" massage won't actually have an RMT license but the receipt printed for your insurance will go through the owner's RMT license even though they didn't provide the service. I'm guessing the attendant would get a commission off that $60 plus the small tip for the massage.

Bodyrubs tend to be all-inclusive until you get in the room and want upgrades. Although some owners are strict and won't allow attendants to request more money. I'm limited to my knowledge of bodyrubs but this is my understanding of places I've been to myself.

What really makes it difficult for the attendants is explaining this to the first-time customers, especially those whose English is a little broken or lacking. It's also a little demeaning to offer a low price for a service they are providing, haggling over the typical price usually isn't a good way to start a session. This constant battle every day would put anyone in a foul mood, but most attendants have thick skin and march on dealing with the many problems that can walk in the door. I honestly think they are champs dealing with this day in and out and still staying positive and coming back to work. 👍

THANK YOU!

In the initial post by the thread starter it wasn't made clear if the discussion was about holistic, body rubs or what not.

If you are paying $40 for 30 minute massage and you can't tip the girl then you are a cheap motherfucker. Body rubs include handjob, and that is what I would refer to as a "rub and tug" or am I wrong?
 
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    Amy & Michelle are in Today! Call/Text: (647) 325-8086 💦 We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime - Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  36. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️Kelly & Kiki. Kelly is slim and attractive with very slight curves, a nice bum, and rockin’ services. Kiki is very attractive, young, about 5’4” and 110 Lbs., slim with a banging body. Kiki is very popular for her great attitude and services.
  37. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Bella & Sasa. Bella is around 5’3” with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Sasa is a slim & sweet Korean lady, about 5’4” with C Cups.
  38. New Oriental Health Centre:
    Vivian & Happy are here today💄~📞Call 📲 Text: (647) 381-2688 💄 Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious 🍑 Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded 🤗 We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  39. Bellagio Wellness &Spa:
    💗💗💗 ℍ𝔸ℙℙ𝕐 𝕄𝔸ℝℂℍ 💗💗💗🌟🌟🌟 MARCH 27th , 𝓦𝓔𝓓𝓝𝓔𝓢𝓓𝓐𝓨 🌟🌟🌟 ☎️ (905) 707-6866 🕙🌟🌟🌟Open 10:30-10:00🗺#33-160 East Beaver Creek 🗺 7 Rms 🛏🌟🌟🌟Table Shower(TS)+Massage 2hr $120*,TS & massage 1hr $90, 🌟🌟🌟$40/50/60 for 30/45/60min 🌟🌟🌟Attendants: We have 7️⃣ today 🍀🍀🍀 🌹🆕 LILIAN 🌹🆕 CHERRY 🌹 CECELIA 🌹🆕 SUNNY 🌹🆕 SOPHIE 🌹 🌹ERICA 🌹 LUCY 🍀🍀🍀 NEWSFLASH 🍀🍀🍀 🆕 LILIAN & 🆕 SOPHIE & ERICA & 🆕 SUNNY & CECELIA & 🆕 CHERRY ‘ s BACK 🍀🍀🍀 TODAY 🍀🍀
  40. hiyamickey:
    6 young sexy girls working @ 3555 14th Ave unit #7 Markham, ☎️:905-470-8082
  41. Lulu1980:
    Good afternoon guys😘 Today we have Jessica and Samantha and Jessica here for you🌹🌹🌹, awesome table shower with body slide super enjoyable😘😘😘😍😍5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke ☎️ 416-817-3366
  42. Sparkling Spa:
    ⚡🌟SPARKLING SPA⚡🌟 ✅50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8✅ 👌Markham, ON L3R 8X4👌 ☎️(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone☎️ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥SUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEEN ZOE NOW AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥SEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Today’s Schedule is…BLASIAN ALIYAH & SEX GODDESS ZOE
  43. Red Rose Spa:
    🌸 We have 7 hot brown girls today 🌸 MAY, ASHA, MALIYA, SANA, AMANDA, PRIYA, ANAYA, KIRAN 🌸 2588 Birchmount 🌸 2 Invergordon 🌸 647-702-8800 🌸 Please visit for a great erotic massage
  44. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on Tuesday: New polish girl gigi 💋💋Salina- Eurasian beauty and breast lovers delight with nice rear with fun Mika - Japanese beauty who is wild and a fan favorite with exceptional service Candy - a sweet treat who enjoys her cream filled lollipop treats buny...
  45. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have young 4 beautiful girls are working today , sweet new girl Amy and pretty GFE Ella, cute open mind Lina and friendly Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  46. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts Cindy , Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Lulu,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massageSherry ,🏠 address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2☎️4376655510 👄👄🦵🦵🈵🈵👅👅
  47. Moneylee:
    full season wellness center: NewYoung girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Mimi , Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage star ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 🏠 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 ☎️ 4379857899 👄👄🦵🦵🈵🈵👅👅
  48. Peony Garden Spa:
    🌸3 GIRLS AVAILABLE TODAY 🌸 NEW GIRL SELINA: A TALL SLENDER YOUNG ASIAN GIRL, VERY NICE ASSETS AND VERY SERVICE ORIENTED WHILE ALSO ABLE TO PROVIDE AN RMT LIKE MASSAGE 🌸 DAISY: A PETITE CURVY ASIAN GIRL THAT IS VERY FRIENDLY AND NOT TIP HUNGRY 🌸 JENNY: A TALL AND SLIM KOREAN GIRL THAT IS A TOTAL SERVICE QUEEN 🌸 PEONY GARDEN SPA 🌸 3477 KENNEDY ROAD UNIT 4 🌸 (416) 335-6093 🌸
  49. Annie Spa:
    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️(416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Summer😘, a very feminine woman, very sexy, affable and nice looking woman. Professional RMT Massage and provides great massages and incredible service. Must try the service of summer. Angel 💕 Very beautiful girl from Taiwan, very curvy, young and sexy
  50. Endless Joy Spa:
    ✨✨✨✨✨[GRAND OPENING]✨✨✨✨✨ 💞Endless Joy Spa💞 🎇 (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565🎇Young Sexy Chinese Jessica, Slim Chinese Lisa
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