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Getting out on your own

~~Birdy~~

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If you made the leap and set up your own therapy clinic/space/whatever outside of your home, what caused you to make the jump? Did you have a client base already established?

I'm asking cause I want to get my own space here in town. There are only two places that offer massage, one is in a chiros office and the other is in a salon/spa where the owner has a rep for being pushy.

I'm making a list of potential places.
Health Club
Community Center
Country Club
Hair Salons
PT office
Rent my own space

I'm going over the pros and cons of each.

The problem I have is that: a) I need a place with a potential client base built in b)I have small kids and don't want to work past 2:00 c) can't really swing rent working limited hours like that.

I guess I could go back to my original idea of working out of my home but I'm a little uncomfortable bringing a new client/stranger into my home. And I like keeping home and business seperate. My husband is always angling for a massage as it is. Plus I would want to set my table up and leave it up.
 


I have just made the leap (Aug.) from working for a DC to working for myself.
I do have a home office for now - and I enjoy it. I am very careful about who I accept into my home for any reason. Eventually I would like to rent a different space, but for now I am just working with my clients and enjoying my time away from too much work.
I have a seperate space for my massage room and I try not to make my home feel like my business. I have "business hours" and I do all business related things during those hours. Clients are very respectful of that also.

Once I have enough steady income coming in that would allow me to pay all rental bills myself - I will be out looking for a space to move my office.
 


You may consider talking to existing therapists who have offices and want to rent it out when they are not using it. Sometimes you can work a deal where you only pay rent for the time you actually use it with a client. You may also be able to work out a relationship where that therapist refers their overflow to you. That way they still make money on clients that either they are too full to take, or who want massage on days and hours they don't want to work.

There can be a big advaneforum.xxxe to renting a room in a place that already has clients coming in, such as a salon, or health club, so long as you are allowed to market your services to them. The clients are already familiar with the location, and are probably going to be the type who are more likely to use massage.
 


I've got a setup like that now at a country club across town. I love the therapist that 'owns' the place but I want a place in my town. Maumelle is a growing city and other than therapists that work out of the pushy salon/spa or the one that works out of the chiros office there isn't any. Not a clinic that is just massage therapy.

I don't know. I'm in one of those indecisive states of mind where I have all the pros and cons of the various options bouncing around in my head. Lots of bouncing around and getting no where.

I did actually drive around and look at some of the commercial property in town. I found a couple of places that look promising. My husband thinks that I ought to find 2-3 other young go-getter MTs and rent them space. That way I have a place to see my clients but can still take off and be with the kidlets after school.
 


I rent a room at a salon. But my business is completely separate. I have my own sign out front underneath theirs and I make my own policies, prices, schedule, gift certificates, etc.

Right now I am paying them a % of my sales every week with a cap of a certain dollar amount. This is the arrangement we agreed to for the first six months then I will go to just a weekly rent.

I have gotten great referrals from the stylists and my business is growing at a steady pace.

Cons

- it's loud sometimes with four stylists and their clients (kids are the loudest).
- I could find a less expensive place to rent on my own, but I wouldn't have the traffic to build by business rapidly.


Really the cons are nothing while I am building my client base.

Previously I did rent my own office space and I advertised, but it's a small town, no one knew me, and I didn't have the traffic. Having the stylists talk to their clients about me is really awesome.
 


It is tough to set up a place of your own and not work past 2. Is it possible you can reserve 2 days a week to work later? I can understand and admire your commitment to your children. Perhaps teaming up with another therapist who is looking to work the afternoon into the evening might be a good solution.

I got my own place. Was the furthest thing from my mind, but things were carrying me in that direction and I went for it. It is the best decision. I did not have a clientele at the time so I started from scratch. It takes work and persistence, but it is do-able.

Good luck.
 


i too think it's a great idea to try to find someone who is looking to work opposite hours of yourself. i don't think it would be that difficult. finding the RIGHT person might take some time but i'm sure there's plenty out there. you can build a practice working those hours. i've done it before. you've got to be creative in your thinking on who to market to and how to do it. but it can definitely be done.
 


That's kind of what I had in mind to share the space with another therapist who can work the 'afternoon shift'.

I can work the occasional afternoon but my husband is on call virtually 24/7 and can get called out on a moments notice so it's kind of hard to schedule a client knowing that I might have to cancel at the very last minute. It wouldn't take too many of those to really piss off a client. That's why I don't really want clients in the afternoon. Not necessarily cause I'm this devoted mother. :roll: Trust me, I cut the cord a LONG time ago.
 


I can work the occasional afternoon but my husband is on call virtually 24/7 and can get called out on a moments notice so it's kind of hard to schedule a client knowing that I might have to cancel at the very last minute. It wouldn't take too many of those to really piss off a client. That's why I don't really want clients in the afternoon. Not necessarily cause I'm this devoted mother. Trust me, I cut the cord a LONG time ago.

I remember reading in a thread about therapists that were also doula's and would have to leave in a moments notice - the clients accepted it.
I would think that as long as you let them know about how your husband works - some may be accepting of it.
 


The husband is in aviation. Owns a helicopter service and flys powerlines for Entergy. If there is a power oueforum.xxxe somewhere in the state he's gotta go.

Not quite the same altruistic reason for canceling at the last minute.
 


I think you are right about the level of patience they would have between a doula and your situation. Instead, they may see you as not dedicated to your profession.

If there are no clinics in your town solely dedicated to massage, it should be a good opportunity for you. I imagine you could find someone else who is also interested in this opportunity. Maybe someone who has some other type of job and can only do massage in the evenings or on weekends.

You definitely will have to be selective about where you do your marketing. People are still going to ask for evening or weekend hours and it will be nice if you have someone to refer them to. I would caution you to be careful about the financial arrangement you have with them. If you are splitting the rent in the middle and then doing separate marketing and you are constantly passing clients to her and she is not passing nearly as many to you, it will not work out to be a good situation. So, it will require much thought before entering into an agreement with someone.

Keep us posted.
 


This may be a little off topic here but I thought I'd put it in, bear with me. If it's totally in the wrong place let me know and I'll delete it.

I work at a fitness center where we offer child care for 2 hours at a time per day to our members (for children 6 weeks to 12 years old). If you are going out on your own, looking to specifically work days, and are trying to build clientel. Have you thought about offering some sort of service like this at your office? Obviously it comes with pros and cons. You might need a larger office and you'd have to have someone to actually watch the wee ones. But I know that having 2 toddlers at home myself, the thought that I could still go and get a massage without having to worry about my kids is nice. Our Kid's Zone is one of our major selling points.

Steph!
 


I hadn't thought of that but it is a good idea. Not sure how you would or could keep the noise down so that the parent could thoroughly relax. Not to mention the other clients who don't have kids. It would have to be a much larger place though wouldn't it?
 


I think you are right about the level of patience they would have between a doula and your situation. Instead, they may see you as not dedicated to your profession.

The husband is in aviation. Owns a helicopter service and flys powerlines for Entergy. If there is a power oueforum.xxxe somewhere in the state he's gotta go.

Not quite the same altruistic reason for canceling at the last minute.

I can agree with both your thinking.
 
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    ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’— โ„๐”ธโ„™โ„™๐• ๐•„๐”ธ๐• ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ MAY 7th , TUESDAY ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 707-6866 ๐Ÿ•™๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸOpen 10:30-10:00๐Ÿ—บ#33-160 East Beaver Creek ๐Ÿ—บ 7 Rms ๐Ÿ›๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸTable Shower(TS)+Massage 2hr $120*,TS & massage 1hr $90, ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ$40/50/60 for 30/45/60min ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸAttendants: We have 6๏ธโƒฃ today ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ†• DAISY ๐ŸŒนSOPHIE ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ†• RICA ๐ŸŒน ๐Ÿ†• HANNAH ๐ŸŒน LILIAN ๐ŸŒน LUCY ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ NEWSFLASH ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ ๐Ÿ†• RICA & ๐Ÿ†• HANNAH & LILIAN & ๐Ÿ†• DAISY & SOPHIE โ€˜ s BACK ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ TODAY ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€
  31. Foxmulder:
    Mississauga
  32. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž10am-2am๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡Coming in tomorrow NEW First Day Young Slim Sexy Vietnamese Lisa (PIC in Forum).
  33. hiyamickey:
    6 young sexy girls working at Reynaella wellness, address: 3555 14th Ave unit #7 Markham, โ˜Ž๏ธ905-470-8082
  34. Sparkling Spa:
    SPARKLING SPA'S KOREAN SUMMER IS READY TO HEAT UP YOUR DAY โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT#8 NO SPA LIKE US ANYWHERE NEAR US
  35. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinese Suki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young CBC Rachel.
  36. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ(437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Lily๐Ÿ˜˜ - A petite tiny little Korean treat,
  37. SunriseRH:
    MONDAY at SUNRISE SPA: EMILY, MICHELLE & SUMMER. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ 647-325-8086 โ˜Ž๏ธ EMILY is a beautiful Asian lady, 36C-29-29, 5โ€™4โ€ & 110Lbs, with a sensual touch. MICHELLE is a young, curvaceous beauty, 5โ€™2โ€ & 130Lbs, 37DDD-31-41, a trim waist, and a nice butt. Come and be pampered. SUMMER is a sweet Asian babe, 5โ€™3โ€ with a captivating 36D-28-39
  38. NewOriental:
    MONDAY at NEW ORIENTAL SPA: HAPPY, HANNA & TIANA. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ 647-381-2688 โ˜Ž๏ธ HANNA is a young, tall & slim Vietnamese honey with great skills & attitude. HAPPY is a slim Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. TIANA is a sexy Jamaican girl, 5โ€™6โ€ & 120Lbs, possessing 36DD-28-39 assets to drive you crazy.
  39. GoldenFlower:
    ๐Ÿ’›โญ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒป๐™‚๐™Š๐™‡๐˜ฟ๐™€๐™‰ ๐™๐™‡๐™Š๐™’๐™€๐™ ๐™Ž๐™‹๐˜ผ๐ŸŒป๐ŸŒŸโญ๐Ÿ’› 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6 (Kennedy & Hwy 7), Markham, ON ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿณ MONDAY at๐Ÿ’›โญ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒปGOLDEN FLOWER SPA๐ŸŒป๐ŸŒŸโญ๐Ÿ’›, 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6 (Kennedy & Hwy 7), Markham, ON 905-258-0777Jojo, Linda, & Sherry. Jojo is a beautiful young fair skinned Hong Kong girl who can melt all your cares away. Linda is a pretty Vietnamese cutie with nice melons
  40. ASPA:
    ๐— ๐—ข๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: EMMA and RACHEL. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable. RACHEL is a slim and attractive attendant, about 5โ€™4
  41. Moon&beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Spanish girl (Mia big boobs &ass thin waist) and new Asian girl Lucy in today
  42. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 818-8896โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Jennifer๐Ÿ˜˜- A busty curvy new girl from Taiwan with excellent massage skills and a fun bubbly personality. Nice thick bum to worship and play with. A fun wild girl willing to provide an exciting happy finish anyway you like ๐Ÿ˜˜Real picture
  43. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธAMY, CINDY & VIVIAN AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  44. Lulu1980:
    Hi guys ๐Ÿคช๐Ÿคช๐ŸคชPhoenix blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนMia sexy body big boobs ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜very good body slide ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนand Cici very good table shower๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ ๏ผŒHelen Deep Tissue Massage๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Bella & NEW GIRLMiu Miu. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild
  46. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center :New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Zoe ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry , address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  47. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Vita ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo, Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  48. Dreaminn:
    MONDAY at ๐Ÿ’ญ๐——๐—ฅ๐—˜๐—”๐—  ๐—œ๐—ก๐—ก ๐—ช๐—˜๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’ญ: AMY, KELLY & MIMI. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ โ˜Ž๏ธ AMY is a sweet and friendly Chinese vixen, 158Cms, 115Lbs, with C Cups and very willing to please. KELLY is a young & pretty Asian girl, very slim, 5โ€™3โ€ with very liberal services. MIMI is a cute young Asian lady
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute student Vivian and young fun open mind Tina with curve body, sexy Coco and pretty cute GFE Ella are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available,350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. Peony Garden Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ3 GIRLS AVAILABLE TODAY ๐ŸŒธ NEW GIRL HELEN: A TALL AND SLENDER YOUNG VIETNAMESE GIRL WITH A VERY LUSCIOUS BODY, VERY SWEET AND FRIENDLY YOU WILL BE SURE TO FALL IN LOVE ๐ŸŒธ JENNY: A TALL AND SLIM KOREAN GIRL THAT IS A TOTAL SERVICE QUEEN ๐ŸŒธ ELLA: A PETITE YOUNG CHINESE GIRL THAT IS A POPULAR FAVOURITE ๐ŸŒธ PEONY GARDEN SPA ๐ŸŒธ 3477 KENNEDY ROAD UNIT 4 ๐ŸŒธ (416) 335-6093 ๐ŸŒธ
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