Gloria (from DelSol)

[carterriley100]

Anyone seen Gloria lately or know where she works now?
I did enjoy her and would love to see her again.
Any intel is appreciated

 

[tallmac]

She's independent now, posts on kijiji with pics when she is working, just keep your eye open for them.

I have not seen a posting since pre shutdown

 

[User587]

Texted her last week, she is planning to wait a while before resuming service.

 

[Albertaman]

Texted her last week, she is planning to wait a while before resuming service.

I've heard this line a few times from providers still drawing their CERB cheques. But in three situations, they were available in home settings, and a 4th one said I could come to the shop through back door. Double dipping is very tempting. Trudeau is a champ.


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[bigbill]

For every person that might be gaming the system there are many, many people that re scraping by on their CERB and might not ever have a job to return to.

 

[Albertaman]

For every person that might be gaming the system there are many, many people that re scraping by on their CERB and might not ever have a job to return to.

Absolutely correct. Once the Auditor General gets seriously involved and all of Canada is in a huff, people will all be so shocked .. about a third of the funds is being misused. Trudeau 2.0. People whose parents lived through Trudeau 1.0 may have other thoughts. Glad you fellas are so supportive. On the other hand private sector entrepreneurs who worked hard building businesses are shafted. Btw, next two years a major reckoning is coming to the public sector.. and a few Canadians and many Albertans will be supporting. The time is ripe.


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[bigbill]

Not sure I understand. I stated that most of the people on CERB were desperately in need of it, and you agreed by stating that a great number of them were fraudulent.

While I agree that there should be assistance for small business, you would have that at the expense of support for individuals? Isn't the foundation of capitalism the understanding of the risk vs reward dynamic? You risk your capital and reap the rewards? If the government protects business from all the possible downsides but allows them to keep the rewards earned for upside events, then how is this capitalism with a competitive marketplace? Some businesses either bought interruption insurance or self insured by holding back some of the profits earned during periods of profitability in order to weather such events, but competitors that took no such measures are rewarded for their lack of acumen with a bailout?

Employees are not capital risk takers. They don't participate in the profits of the business unless they accept that as part of their compensation, and then they bear both upside and downside event risk. But, typically, employees are not owners, not risking capital, and don't automatically share in upside potential. This is why governments generally build some sort of catastrophe insurance into their social programming, as "bailouts" for individuals serve two purposes. First, to protect people from severe consequences like homelessness, starvation, and so on, and secondly to protect business by keeping money flowing in the economy. Employment Insurance type of programs are also a great stabilizing force on the economy as a whole, and a valuable tool to smooth the boom/bust cycle.

The reckoning of the public service? I take it you resent public sector wages, benefits, pensions, or whatever? If these were so much better than the private sector, then why isn't there greater competition for those jobs, meaning a larger pool of applicants, which would mean pressure to pay closer to private sector wages? Well, that's exactly true, as even in Alberta, private and public sector wages are very close to each other. Many positions in the public sector, primarily in education and health care, have high barriers to entry with stringent qualifications that typically involve at least one degree and a list of other qualifications. Teachers, nurses, doctors, physiotherapists, and on and on all must have pretty expensive education and training, and their skills play an important role in society, so under the notion of value added, shouldn't they earn a fairly decent wage?

Instead of racing to the bottom by cutting wages and programs, why not try the opposite? Let's be proud of living in a place with high wages and a great deal of prosperity and an excellent level of public services. Instead of being jealous or hateful of your neighbour the nurse that worked through high school to get an over 90% average and took summer classes to take extra sciences and sacrificed their social lives and then worked their asses off in a difficult university program, beat your chest that Alberta has amazing and dedicated nurses and demand we pay them well and give them even more respect for the valuable work they do.

I get that the pandemic has been stressful, but it's time to stop listening to politicians that do nothing but seek to divide us. I worked half my career in the private sector and half in the public sector and I'm fucking proud of the work I did in both environments and the amazing people I worked with in both sectors. Instead of kicking your neighbour, try helping them if you can, or at least getting to know them instead of just generalizing them.

 

[Old Fart]

I worked half my career in the private sector and half in the public sector and I'm fucking proud of the work I did in both environments and the amazing people I worked with in both sectors. Instead of kicking your neighbour, try helping them if you can, or at least getting to know them instead of just generalizing them.

But it is so much easier to bash others for our failures. Some people only see what they want Bill. They cannot see the big picture. They want the handouts to keep coming to them, not anyone else. If that happens, it is a great government If not, they are (insert favourite derogatory name here).

 

[Albertaman]

Wow, lots of retort when my only points were that about a third of CERB monies are being misused, and that major cutbacks to public sectors are ahead. I'm neither a CERB user, nor for or against public sector expansions or contractions. And from teenage years have built my personal security, through investing, and have strongly promoted the idea of 'deferred pleasures' even in the context of hobbies such as massage, as some of you already know . Meaning, invest in yourself with hard earned monies, then later enjoy the spoils.

Back to Gloria. Has anyone seen her lately? Mostly, on this board people have been critical of her. I've only had three massages from her (two, since she left Xiaoping) and found her massages to be quite pleasing. So, once caught up with some other favourite therapists, will try her again.


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[Old Fart]

my only points were that about a third of CERB monies are being misused, and that major cutbacks to public sectors are ahead. I'm neither a CERB user, nor for or against public sector expansions or contractions.

Sadly, there is much misuse out there including other government programs such as EI, welfare and false claims. The people who actually pay their taxes are the ones that end up paying for the abuse.

strongly promoted the idea of 'deferred pleasures' even in the context of hobbies such as massage, as some of you already know . Meaning, invest in yourself with hard earned monies, then later enjoy the spoils.

Could not agree more.

 

[UserNameTaken]

Sadly, there is much misuse out there including other government programs such as EI, welfare and false claims. The people who actually pay their taxes are the ones that end up paying for the abuse.

Could not agree more.

Absolutely! The economic fallout from the recession we were experiencing prior to the pandemic was bad enough, and now add a pandemic. The tax base is shrinking everyday. The money handed over to abusers of the system has gone on for years. With no end in site! Pass the popcorn!

 

[bigbill]

One of the jobs I did back in the day was to study the efficacy, economic multiplier and abuse rates of direct payment social programs. Direct payment programs are ones that simply pay money to the program participants. People like to think these programs are rife with abuse - someone above quoted one third of all CERB payments were either error or fraud, and I'm supposing that they believe this rate to be generally true of EI, etc. I have no clue as to where that number came from...are you a researcher in the field?

When you consider that EI normally costs about $20B a year, a rate of 33% of abuse would be outrageous and the program would be scrapped. In truth, EI fraud amounts to less than 1% of total payouts, and rates are similar or lower for other direct payment programs. Is the abuse chronic, meaning "gone on for years?" Well, of course, it's something that happens on an on-going basis because the program is on-going as well.

There are some short term programs like SFI (aka Welfare) and EI that have few chronic participants, most are one time users, or individuals that use it a very small number of times. It's actually not that hard for the government today to root out abusers thanks to that fact, and most cheats are now caught thanks to the use of computers. Long term programs like AISH also have low abuse rates because the government has built in stringent reporting and application requirements.

The impact of the programs on the 99+% of users easily outweighs the cost of the abuse. It would be ludicrous to cease a program that has such positive effects on people's mental and physical health as well as economic stability for both the individual and the economy as a whole for the small amount of fraud that takes place.

What really costs a lot? Corporate welfare. Economists have long studied the efficacy of stimulus spending and corporate tax cuts to already profitable companies is one of the least effective. Those firms are already making profits of at least $500K, so have money to add staff were they truly needed. These tax breaks are nothing but a wealth transfer from you and I to executives and shareholders, and unfortunately for Alberta, many of the owners of large oil companies in the province are not Canadian, so this is also an outflow of cash from the province and even the country. The billions and billions that these cuts will cost the province will be paid for by fee increases to regular people and cuts in services that will mean we will have to source more private services and pay out of pocket, or simply go without, which is also a cost.

 

[m694ever]

 

[Old Fart]

I did not say a third Bill (and not to imply you accused me of that). I actually have no idea how much abuse there is but the figure that comes to mind is 10% of EI. That is not from research but from back when the Cretien (I think) government decided that there was 10% abuse of EI and in their stupidity decided that the solution would be to punish the honest 90% by cutting their benefits by 10%, as opposed to going after the cheaters. The rest is not scientific but just observation and hearing welfare recipients (not all of course) brag about how they got their cheque and ended up in the liquor store and casino. If there was anything left over, they'd hit the grocery store. If not, there's always the food bank.

 

[bigbill]

There's a significant difference between what someone observes and decides the fraud rate is and what the actual rate is as determined by careful mathematical modelling and investigation. The last federal Liberal government was derided by the opposition for rising rates of EI fraud (still under 1%, but higher than previously) but most of that increase is attributed to better enforcement thanks to: 1. Better software for data analysis and 2. Interdepartmental communication. They're doing a better job of catching the cheaters.

Some things that we can observe from the pandemic:

1. EI is outdated and needs a complete rethink. Work has changed significantly in the decades since the program was built and it has not changed with the times. It's based on the idea that someone has a full-time job with an employer. There were no gig workers and so on when EI (or UIC as we oldies recall) was created.

2. We are not economically equipped for pandemics or other economic upheavals. Wages have been stagnant for nearly 40 years and that's led to low savings rates, so individuals are not able to weather a storm like this.

3. There are several trillion dollars of Canadian money sitting idle that needs to be brought back to the economy. The recovery from the pandemic could take a decade or more if we don't take on wealth hoarding.

4. Austerity will only prolong the depression, and is a failed stimulus policy that should be avoided. During recessions and depressions, people require more services, not less. Reeducation and infrastructure investment is essential to keeping the workforce moving and prepared to come out of the downturn.

 

[Deleted member 72001]

.......... sooooo.....she’s waiting for a bit to reopen??
Thanks for the intel.

 

[Bootylover29]

Who cares Gloria SUCKS! Can’t massage, not friendly ,looks at your hammer like it looks like the dude chained up in the basement off the Goonies movie, waste of time

 

[Yakyak]

The solution is give a pre loaded credit card or benefits card that can be used on bus or taxi. Buy food etc. Not redeemable for cash or accept in alcohol store or casino. I'm sick of paying for junkies and dead beats. Infrastructure investment might help a tiny bit, reality is it's to late. Unless you can cut off all non essential services. And remove the crime minister before he steals and gives away anymore of my money. The world is heading for a reset, it seems intentional.

 

[bigbill]

Way back in the day when Gloria was at XP, she was very willing to let you DIY, which would have been fine had she offered a great massage. But she didn't, which is why she didn't gel at XP. She figured guys would flock in just because she was young and gorgeous. And in many ways she was right. But I didn't follow her after XP, and I'm not sure how many did.

 

[Bootylover29]

Way back in the day when Gloria was at XP, she was very willing to let you DIY, which would have been fine had she offered a great massage. But she didn't, which is why she didn't gel at XP. She figured guys would flock in just because she was young and gorgeous. And in many ways she was right. But I didn't follow her after XP, and I'm not sure how many did.