I am an agnostic. How can I introduce Christmas to my daughter?

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I want to introduce the holiday without bringing the religious aspect into it, as she is only 5. My family celebrates it as a secular holiday anyway, but she doesn't understand the whole 'Santa Clause' concept. I really don't know what to tell her. This may sound a little TOO sensitive, but since we've (my husband and I) been focusing on lying with her (what it is, why you shouldn't do it, etc.) lately, I feel a little weird telling her the St. Nick story; she would be upset if she found out it was a lie and call me a hypocrite (hey, she's smart, what can I say) Example: "You lied to me Mommy! You told me I could have a cookie after dinner and you didn't give me one!" "No, I just changed my mind because you decided to push the cat into the water bucket." She's understanding the concept quite well, but we're still working on it.

Also, I am willing to teach her about the religious aspect when she gets older, just not quite yet, as I want her to understand its a story SOME people believe in, and she doesn't need to 'adopt' that belief as her own if she doesn't want to. Suggestions? Thanks :)
@Vicki Your comment about my daughter is just rude an unnecessary.
 
Now I know why I'm not an agnostic.

I never had to apologize to my son when explaining to him about Christmas or Easter. Christmas is a celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ. I suppose you can put any spin on that any way you want to, but if you deny that fact, you'll be lying to her. Sure, I know all about that it was a pagan holiday and blah, blah, blah. But the celebration STILL centers around the birth of Christ. How do you get around that?

As far as Santa, I told my son from a very early age Santa wasn't real. He suffered no harm still respects me for that. ;)
 
tell her it is an American Holiday and other countries have similar traditions but in America the tradition is that Santa Clause comes to give presents to children who are good.
 
Explain to her that it is a special time of the year that all families get together to celebrate love. Let her know the Christmas tree is a long standing tradition all throughout history and gift giving is part of the tradition. Santa doesn't have anything to do with religion and it's a magical aspect of a child's life. Of course, they get old enough on their own to realize that Santa doesn't really exist. No big deal. The child will learn on her own that Christmas actually symbolizes the birth of God's son Jesus if she hasn't heard it elsewhere already. Whether she believes in Jesus or what Christmas symbolizes will be a choice that she will make on her own one day anyway. As far as Santa, let her have the magic....
 
Maybe you could get her to watch the movie, "A Christmas Story"....about the little boy who just wants a "Red-rider" BB gun....that should give her example of how other kids act and anticipate Christmas morning!...but please don't give her no BB gun, cause she might shoot someone's eye out.
 
I think you're taking the whole thing way too seriously. Secular society will eventually introduce her to some form of Christmas, and you're going to make some mistakes raising a child anyway, because you're human. If your daughter is only five, I wouldn't start talking to her about God, or the lack thereof, unless she asks you about it. If that happens, then you probably know to give her your opinion on the subject, without forcing some belief or lack thereof upon her.
 
well first of all , sounds like your daughter's one hell of a brat ! second ? christmas is about peace on earth & goodwill toward men ( and women ) . third ? jesus ( the bible says ) was born in bethlehem because mary & joseph had to register for the census ordered by the roman emperor augustus . that was in march........... not december ! st nick , kris kringle , santa claus all stem from an old legend (10th ? 11th ? century ) of a man who brought gifts to children to help cheer them up during the worst weather of the year............. usually december .
 
I would challenge you to learn the story behind Saint Nick....it is actually pretty cool, it would lay some footings for your daughters spiritual journey.
 
Tell your daughter the truth about your belief in a way she can understand. " I'm an agnostic that means mommy doesn't know what the truth is about God the best evidence to me for the existence of God is thus and the best evidence for not believing in a God is thus." then proceed in explaining Christmas, "Many people have different customs and traditions this is a time of year where if you look you can see all sorts of them at one time." If you focus on the differences of Christmas she will be more able to make an educated decision for her self and you might be able to gain an understanding about the nature of God or not. but one thing you do not want to do is explain that to many people that give gifts to others the reason they give them is in honor of the greatest gift we as humans have received, the gift of salvation.( that would open up a can of worms that you wouldn't want to tackle. And please don't tell here about the Christians using ornaments on trees because it hurts the pagans feelings that we don't use animal entrails like they do.

Good Luck with your daughter. and the last thing i would say is, if you have a bible in your house please remove it ( it can be a real stumbling block) there are to many references to the truth not being subjective. your daughter needs to learn that the truth is only what she thinks it is and that anyone else that believes otherwise that is the truth for them.
 
At her age you can't explain it in great detail. The story of how Christmas developed is actually very interesting but it would bore a 5 year old.

But you could hit the highlights. Thousands of years ago people discovered that days get shorter and shorter in the Winter. Then, at a particular time, the days begin getting longer again. You might be able to explain this with drawings of the earth going around the sun, tilted on its axis. But even that might be a bit much for someone that young.

So anyway, thousands of years ago people didn't know what to make of this. They didn't really know what to believe, so they made stuff up. For instance some of them made up stories about a space monster taking the sun away, and a heroic 'man in the sky' fighting the monster and getting the sun back. (There actually were myths like this!) These stories are called 'myths', and people didn't really BELIEVE them but they served to explain why the world was the way it was.

In some cultures they had group of men in charge of making up these myths and teaching them to everyone. These guys had time to 'observe' nature and the skies. And before long they learned to figure out, ahead of time, the exact day the days would start getting longer. Of course everyone in the society wanted to know that! So these men would hold some kind of ceremony just on that day. And the days began getting longer, and it warmed up, and farmers' crops began to grow. People came to look forward to that day! When we have Winter now, we can look at a calendar and say 'It will start getting warmer in 2 months.' But in those days they didn't even have calendars so people didn't know WHEN it would get warmer. Maybe it never would!

Well, think of these guys holding this ceremony for years and years. After a while, people came to think that it was the ceremony itself that led to the days getting longer! Of course this was 'job security' for the priesthood that performed the ceremony. 8^)

So now thousands of years later, but still thousands of years ago, the Roman Empire changed from Paganism, which believed in many gods, to Christianity, which believed in one God. This is why Christianity is prevalent still today in the Western World. The early Christians wanted to stop the celebration of this Pagan holiday But it was just SO popular that they couldn't stop people from celebrating it. In the Pagan world it was the biggest holiday of the year, and people didn't want to give it up! So eventually, Christians decided that Jesus was born at that time, and that would allow people to still celebrate it without being 'pagan'.

So now to this very day, Christmas time is a time in the dead of Winter when you can't do a lot of other things. So people put up lights, they visit one another for dinner, special movies come out this time of year, and kids look forward to it because they get a week off school. Christians say it's all about Jesus, but he wasn't even really born in December, it was just an excuse all along to celebrate at this time of year. But you don't even have to be Christian to celebrate the Winter Solstice. We call it 'Christmas' but for many people, maybe even MOST people, it has nothing to do with religion.
 
Young girls usually like presents. Try that.

Make it a time of giving to those you care about.
 
It is important for children to be introduced to spirituality. The fundamentalist atheists who force feed their own views to their kids but criticize religious families are simply hypocritical.
 
There is nothing wrong with stories for children. Tell her about St Nicholas and get The Night Before Christmas. In the fullness of time, another kid will tell her santa isn't real, but meanwhile why spoil all those delightful childhood myths?
 
Tell her the truth- JESUS was born. That is the true meaning of CHRISTmas! Get her a kids bible, go to church & a Christmas eve service
 
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    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธClaire๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธRebecca๐ŸŒธFran๐ŸŒธAmber Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  34. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบ Weclome to wonder spa (9421Jane st unit127)L6A4H8 โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,.๐Ÿ˜on Saturday4younge girl working Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ’„new young girl Cici is beautiful Sweet and friendy girl good deep tissue massage ๏ผŒback walking,nice body slide,๐Ÿท nice Amy Vietnamese young girl,open maid she can do everything you want,very popular girl,amazing massage,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜
  35. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Slim Petite Chinese Vivi & Slim Sexy Chinese Coco & Young Slim Sexy Chinese Jasmine
  36. HollywoodSpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: COCO & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls. We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean & other attendants. COCO is an attractive attendant with nice massage skills & good services. SISI is a sweet slim beauty, 5โ€™5โ€
  37. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Lika, Sara & Tracy. Lika is new; details to follow... Sara is young & slim with nice C Cups, trim waist, sexy bum and long hair.She is vary friendly uses her assets well. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular
  38. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY & NANA. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills Nana is a slim and very sexy Korean lady, very pretty and accommodating. Come and try, you will like. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด
  39. SugarLoveSpa:
    Saturday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUNA, SARA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. SARA is a beautiful Thai lady with C Cups, 160 Cms and 50 Kgs, with a full set of services to delight you. TIFFANY is an amazing slim
  40. Romance AI:
    Peshawar
  41. OrchidSPA:
    Today we have Beautiful Girls Tiffany & Mia. ๐Ÿ”ฅ Tiffany is a Young and Very Sexy Girl. ๐ŸคฉMia is also a slim cute girl. Drop In and Enjoy A Delicious & Satisfying Experience Today! OPEN: 10am to 10:00pm ~ Call/Text โฉ๏ธ 437-220-6963 ~ Unit#103 3601 Highway 7, Markham, ON L3R 0M3
  42. lotushubspa:
    Hi, Louts๐Ÿ’‹ recommends the best female masseuse to customers today, Anna๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’ฏ from China Coco๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’ฏ from Taiwan, Tina๐Ÿ’‹ from South Korea, living at 10737 Yonge St Unit13. Please contact 9052375885โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿ’‹ or SMS 4163565876, ๐Ÿ’‹Thank you๐Ÿ’‹
  43. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 girls are working today, young pretty Lily 22โ€™s open mind and young fun Yoyo 36DD with big buttocks 30โ€™s open mind, young slime Sophia 30โ€™s and sweet GFE Lina are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  44. New Oriental Health Centre:
    ๐ŸซฆHappy, Nayla & Ada are in today ๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ‘ Happy is a very talented Korean Babe ๐Ÿ’„Nayla is a Tall, Young, Beautiful & Curvy Spanish Girl ๐Ÿซฆ Ada is a sexy European Hottie ~ All Our Girls are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค—Open 8am til Late #26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  45. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, SABHA, SARA, PRIYA, NINA, VIVIAN, MALIYA, SALMA, NUR ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  46. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga Kiki and Mia works
  47. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Apple๐Ÿ˜˜ - Brand new girl from Taiwan ju
  48. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Judy๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅOur new Asian massage girl Judy is a vision of refined sensuality, with a graceful figure and smooth, flawless skin that radiates warmth and allure. Her striking black hair frames her delicate features, and her poised elega
  49. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Elena young Vietnamese sweetheart girl has plump lips, flawless glory skin, Barbie Very Young, very Petite Korea Student With Perfect S shape type Spicy Smoking Hot Body โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  50. See You Health Center:
    Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Sexy tight body amazing C cups with Those incredible nipples Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
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