I want to buy a FIR sauna

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I want to purchase a far infrared sauna unit, a real one, not a collapsible one. I am looking at this one, http://www.sunlighten.com/select-3.htm

When they run a sale, they can be had for about $3000 shipping included. Plus, I have been saving my money and by the time February rolls around, I will be able to pay cash for it.

Putting this sauna in my office means no more couples massage in the same room. We can still massage two people at the same time, just not in the same room. For what it's worth, I wouldn't miss the couples in the same room. It is work to move things around and couples are the most likely to cancel on short notice.

I am considering having a half hour sauna treatment and a 45 minute treatment. My current massage rates are $35/$60/$85 for 30/60/90. For the sauna, I am thinking of charging $25 for a half hour added on to a massage and $35 for a 45 minute sauna only session.

The sauna would be in the same room I work out of. Most of the time I am the only one in there as my part time associate is very part time. If I get 10 people a week to use the sauna, I would make more money than I do from having my employee work for me. Of course, I would be there more, but then I would be making considerably more money for not a lot more hard work, like I said, I just have to be there. 10 half hour sauna sessions a week is $250 extra per week and over the course of a year, that adds up to over $12,000 per year, PLUS I get to use the sauna myself, that's like 200 hours at $60 per hour if it were massage.

If the sauna takes off, I can put another sauna in the second massage room, but because it is smaller, it would be a sauna room only.

It just makes me sick that I can get 20 to 25 appointments a week and my employee gets 2 to 5 on a regular basis and she has been with me for two years. By the time I was in this business for two years, I was averaging 15 clients a week!! Alas, I sure wish I could clone myself!

Eventually, I will get a floatation tank too... but they cost $25,000 and are considered a pool in my state, so I have to jump through a lot of hoops..... give it a few years....
 
I want to buy a FIR sauna

That all sounds really nice. If I were near you, I'd come by for a session of sauna and massage! I'm anxious to hear how it all works out and I bet you are just dying to get that sauna now that you are so close to being able to purchase it outright! Congratulations!
 
I want to buy a FIR sauna

Cross link if it helps: Far Infrared?

BTW, I know someone who has a FIR in their office. She doesn't get many clients for it. But, if nothing else, you have it for you! :)

peacenut said:
It just makes me sick that I can get 20 to 25 appointments a week and my employee gets 2 to 5 on a regular basis and she has been with me for two years. By the time I was in this business for two years, I was averaging 15 clients a week!! Alas, I sure wish I could clone myself!

Possibly you are at the max your office can handle and not necessarily the therapist? Growth may need to come in the form of a larger or more open space to handle more clients. Just throwing other thoughts out there for you to consider.
 
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Nope, not the case. I have two rooms set up for massage. She just can't get clients to rebook like I seem to be able to do.
 
I want to buy a FIR sauna

peacenut said:
It just makes me sick that I can get 20 to 25 appointments a week and my employee gets 2 to 5 on a regular basis and she has been with me for two years. By the time I was in this business for two years, I was averaging 15 clients a week!! Alas, I sure wish I could clone myself!

I totally hear you! I have 3 other LMTs that work for me and it's the same way! They just can't seem to get the rebook. It seems that I've tried everything with them and I just don't know what the answer is!!

Good luck with your sauna!! I could sure go for a treatment of sauna and massage!! It sounds amazing :)
 
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peacenut said:
Nope, not the case. I have two rooms set up for massage. She just can't get clients to rebook like I seem to be able to do.


When I say the "max" your space can handle, what I am speaking of is not having "two" rooms, but the "space", "feel". It is truly amazing how some offices feel cramped and just won't take on any more people. Even though you have two rooms, your "space/feel" may only accept 30 a week. That was what I was trying to offer up.

And, in agreement with Pete on trying not to hijack the tread, but you did bring it up..... if you have someone see how she is working, you may find that she really is good (which would make sense why you would have kept her so many years without switching her out with a new therapist) and that my idea is worth looking closer into. You may need to have a feng shui master come in and help with movement and flow of the energy. Two people can cramp a moderate space quickly. I speak from experience. I have 900 square feet. And, at least with our layout, you can trust me when I say, with 2 people, 30 clients is making for a little too much movement in that confined space. I do more work when my husband is not in the office than when he is and vice versa. We have a tendency to max around 25, and it really is because of flow. I can't explain it, it just "is".

But, I am just trying to help and open your mind to other ideas. Although, from your response, my thought is probably just wrong regarding your particular situation. :undecided:


12/04/09: corrected for a pitiful typo. :)
 
I want to buy a FIR sauna

Or it could just be the bad economics of our recent times.
 
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Pete said:
If not via secret shopper, you could always survey clients who have been on her table and not returned to get their feedback on their experience.


I think I would survey clients. And as long as you were going to all the trouble to create a survey, I'd ask a few questions which might help you determine whether there is indeed interest in something like a FIR sauna before you go to all the expense to purchase one.
 
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maestra said:
I think I would survey clients. And as long as you were going to all the trouble to create a survey, I'd ask a few questions which might help you determine whether there is indeed interest in something like a FIR sauna before you go to all the expense to purchase one.
I totally agree with this!! The Sauna will absolutely not sell itself in any way. You have to be prepared to educate and sell sauna sessions. People do not know the benefits of a FIR sauna, and many have saunas in their homes or gyms. I charged $20 for 30 min. in mine. I had several regular "sauna clients", but getting new clients in it took a fair amount of selling.
 
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Its been a wonderful having an infrared sauna in my office. My clients love it! The best sauna on the market is the Healthmate sauna. I purchased mine two years ago. It was slow going, but it really helps relax clients before you work on them. Also if they go in sauna after the massage it helps with soreness. Hope this helps.
 
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I bought the sauna!! I did not buy the select 3 though. I bought the select 2, and it is plenty big for one person. Technically, it is a two person sauna. The Sunlighten Select saunas are VERY ROOMY. Some of the cheaper models for sale that were other brands had an 18 inch deep seat. The Sunlighten seats are about 24 inches deep and very comfortable even for larger clients. I opted to go with the so sound upgrade (vibrational resonance.) But, it is on back order. :( Hopefully it will be in soon.

This month I have been showing it to clients. I turn it on and let them sit in it fully dressed for a couple minutes while I tell them about it and what they can expect from it. I have a few appointments booked already. It is incredible what the sauna can do! I have been letting a few clients try a complimentary 15 minute session before their massage. Not only does the sauna make my job easier by softening the muscles, but it also makes the massage feel better! If I had it my way, I would never get a massage without going in the sauna first!

I made a flier for the sauna and have them in the treatment room with the sauna and also on the front desk. The flier includes special introductory prices. If it takes off like I hope, I will consider keeping the introductory prices for a while, maybe even make them the regular price. In early February, my entire client list will be mailed a copy of this brochure, over 700 names.

The sauna will pay for itself in no time. It also makes me stand out in my market and will lend to another way for me to earn more by doing less actual hands on work.
 
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peacenut,

Would you mind letting me know how you are making sure it is sanitary for each client? If you prefer to PM this info, feel free.

The lady I know who uses one in her office, places fresh towels down for each client to sit/stand on, and since I know she is ultra-sanitary to the extreme, I expect there is more to it than that. I have never bothered to ask though. :oops:

Look forward to a reply. :)
 
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Before I made my final decision to purchase the sauna, I went to another MT who has a sauna and is located about 70 miles away. She includes 10 minutes in the sauna with each session at no additional charge. When clients use the free 10 minutes, she has them sit on a couple pieces of paper toweling and gives them one smallish towel of moderate quality. If they buy more time (in 10 minute increments) she gives them two smallish towels of moderate quality. One to sit on and one to wipe down with. The towels she used looked like cheap hotel swimming pool towels.

I am not doing it quite like her.

I am providing two large bath towels and a small towel. The small towel is on the floor of the unit. One large towel is draped over the back rest and the seat. The second large towel is for wiping down and for modesty if needed.

Towels last a long time and the larger better quality towels make a much nicer presentation. The first impression is everything! The large towels I purchased are regularly priced at $11, and go on sale for $5 or $6. The small towels are the same that I use in my hot towel cabi and I have a lot of those on hand.
 
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Thanks!

That sounds exactly like what our friend/colleague does. She uses big towels of a really nice quality and they drape everything. I just wasn't sure if there was more to it than that.

BTW, if you haven't tried it... she also has a very small empty bowl with a damp washcloth in it. If you rub the damp cloth over your body, you'll make a little more heat/sweat. Not sure if you want to enhance that option, but if you do, that seems to work and it also gives the client a little "cooler" item if they need it. She keeps a bottle of water outside the unit on a small table and encourages the client to take a break if needed and grab that water.

Hope these ideas help.
 
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pueppi said:
BTW, if you haven't tried it... she also has a very small empty bowl with a damp washcloth in it. If you rub the damp cloth over your body, you'll make a little more heat/sweat. Not sure if you want to enhance that option, but if you do, that seems to work and it also gives the client a little "cooler" item if they need it. She keeps a bottle of water outside the unit on a small table and encourages the client to take a break if needed and grab that water.

Hope these ideas help.

I am also providing a bottle of water. There is a drink holder inside the sauna.

What about using a spray bottle with water instead of a damp washcloth? Do you think that would work?
 
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peacenut said:
What about using a spray bottle with water instead of a damp washcloth? Do you think that would work?


Don't see why it wouldn't, but I think the washcloth keeps the "water" in check a little more maybe? In case you get someone who gets spray-happy? :)
 
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    𝗧𝗛𝗨𝗥𝗦𝗗𝗔𝗬 𝗔𝗧 𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀: Fox, Coco & 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝗺𝗮𝘀𝘀𝗮𝗴𝗲 𝗥𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗲𝗹[/color] 🅰️𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀🅰️, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 🅰️𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲🅰️ FOX is 26 years old with 34C’s, stands 164Cm tall and weighs 54Kg. Fox is very friendly and can provide a great girlfriend experience.
  33. See You Health Center:
    Natalie 💕 She is from Philippines CBC Petite school girl 5’ 1”, 98 lbs black Hair
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  34. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    ✨Click On Username and FOLLOW US✅ Today 🌸Cassy🌸Maria🌸Isabella🌸Nina🌸Camila ☎905 - 265 - 2158☎️
  35. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Candy💕 She is a Vietnamese With nice Sexy Slender Body, Curves and Sweet Melons 🥑 Sami💕 Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl 🥑 Judy 💕 is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl ☎️647-446-0886
  36. Annie Spa:
    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️ (647) 891-9688☎️ ☎️ (416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Suki😍is beautiful short petite tiny sexy student from Cambodia. Exotic features and model looks, Suki has a nice bum, slim waist, flat stomach and very good massage skills and has a great playful personality. Suki has a beautiful se
  37. Soul Relax Spa:
    ✨Click On Username and FOLLOW US✅ Today 🌸Luna🌸Lulu🌸Valentina ☎289 - 298 - 5662☎️
  38. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 beautiful young girls are working today , young fun Ivy big buttocks 30’s open mind and Young cute Tina with curve body, sweet GFE Ella and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  39. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage kasa ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs coco ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Tina ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,🏠address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2☎️4376655510 👄👄🦵🦵🈵🈵👅👅
  40. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivian , Student pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Michelle,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .☎️4379857899🦵🦵👄👄🈵🈵👅👅
  41. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦🫦2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Cindy, Jennifer & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded.
  42. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️EMILY, LUCY & CINDY. EMILY is a VERY tiny petite SPINNER of the highest quality. Emily has a pretty face, natural A Cups, slim waist, and a lovely spinner bottom, topped off with the very best of services. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services.
  43. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at ❤️💙 💜⎝𝗦𝗨𝗚𝗔𝗥 𝗟𝗢𝗩𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔⎠💖💗💘: CHERRY, LUNA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON ☎ 𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟯𝟲𝟱-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎ CHERRY is a young, slim, friendly and absolutely gorgeous Vietnamese beauty, 49 Kgs with Bounteous D Cups. Real pics, unreal services! BBBJ, shower together, full menu. LUNA is a slim and capable Vietnamese beauty nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything.
  44. Lily Spa:
    ❤️ KAJAL, PREETI and CHLOE are here today for your massage needs ❤️ Lily Spa ❤️ 2190 McNicoll ❤️ Scarborough ❤️ M1V 5M2 ❤️ (647) 531-8288 ❤️
  45. Aqua Health Centre:
    😊 Kayla and Wendy are available today! 😊 Thursday slow relaxing massage 😊 1729 Bloor Street West 😊 At Keele Subway Station 😊 High Park area 😊 647-343-6851 😊
  46. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa 🌹🌹🌹2 girls 🔥🔥🔥5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke☎️416-817-3366👍 New girl Cherry and Luna 😘😘😘😘Hot and sexy body, super body slide, very provocative service😘😘😘, professional super Vicky deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise😍😍😍😍❤️You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the back door with plenty of parking spaces
  47. Red Rose Spa:
    🌸 We have 5 hot brown girls today 🌸 LUCY, MALIYA, SANA, KAVYA, PAYAL PEARL, JIYA, SARIKA, PRIYA 🌸 2588 Birchmount 🌸 2 Invergordon 🌸 647-702-8800 🌸 Please visit for a great erotic massage
  48. lotushubspa:
    Lotus Spa Richmond Hill 10737 Yonge St unit13 ' Today we recommend new girls for massage services including Lisa💋Tiffany💋Amy💋, all of them are young and beautiful with first-class service, from China🇨🇳Taiwan🇸🇬Korea🇰🇷If you want a massage, please contact us at 9052375885📞4163565876, you can send SMS
  49. Sparkling Spa:
    ⚡🌟SPARKLING SPA⚡🌟 ✅50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8✅ 👌Markham, ON L3R 8X4👌 ☎️ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone☎️ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥SUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥SEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Today’s Schedule is…🔥 Zoe - 🔥Stunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality who
  50. Jenny’s Spa:
    🎉🍒JENNY’S SPA🎉🍒 ✅5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST✅ 👌ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4👌 ☎️( 647-893-5196)☎️Call or Text ☎️( 437-888-3759)☎️Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅GRAND OPENING💯NEW GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥EXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNY’S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥TWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥 💯REAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS💯 🔥TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: Coco😘- A young cute blonde Asian girl maki
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