Ivana, the deal breaker, not what you might think.

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Well I was board, and the wife was working...that makes for a bad combo...

no one was working at SRM, HFH or allure that I happen to like. The dam Utopia pictures finally got me. Booking Ivana was easy and arrived on time. Have not been to this place in years...the renovation was impressive (it always was neat here, when i first started this dam past time it was here with alexis and i enjoyed the spa then..) The rooms are nice, showers good.

In walks Ivana...2 minutes later when i could talk I opted for the BS. She ask for soft/hard massage...hard is tough with those nails of her's but she did pull off a decent massage that worked out a kink or two.

The BS was interesting, she was wearing a corsette, which she left on. She was accomodating, and a few of my earlier questions in a previous post about language skills were positively answered in a number of great ways...

Afterwards, I hoped in the shower...she rubbed off the oil from the upper half, with alcohol ... and got dressed, I asked her if she was showering elsewhere...she said she would refresh elsewhere...that's usually np, means a shower elsewhere like plat's...i expected she would be gone for a bit...

1 minute later fully dressed, in she walks...:eek:

now i don't know if she showers after she says good bye..but.. that's a deal breaker...which is really too bad...there is massive potential with this young lady...

she was running behind...out 30minutes hit the 45 mark... and there was someone waiting...and she was wearing a corsette and extremely hot fishnet stockings...it was 2 hours into her night...but...

...hygiene counts...or at least the perception of it...

anyone know if they shower infront of clients at Utopia as a Rule? was this just an odd one off? hope so, as mentioned before, she has massive potential in looks, personality, and service...

I had a great time with her till this point...its a small one...but...a biggy...

I need a new hobby if this stuff is starting to bug me...golf is only marginally more expensive...
 
Nope, UR 100% correct on this one...

Proper hygiene is NOT subject to "YMMV"... it should be a given :eek:

Hopefully Utopia's management brings this to her Attn: ASAP
 
New acronym, CS(corsette slide). Only from the beautiful mind of Ivana could this new technique have originated.
 
Thanks for the review!!!

Link:
http://www.utopiamassage.com/ivana.html#

VBB
 
I have seen Ivana 3 times so far, First time was a 9+ session(So obviously nothing negative was noted at least initially) 2nd time was 8+ & yes, the Corset stayed on & quick cleaning job was noted right at the sink.

Third time around I insisted on taking that corset off (Being a connisseuer of fine bodies, I love the Nr part . but she kept it on along with the stockings.
She promised that she won't wear it the next time around and how hard it is to get rid of something like this & so on.........

My theory is because she likes to wear a lot of make up and keeps her Lovely hair down, she does not want to get it ruined by taking 8 to 10 showers a day & obviously she does not like to take the corset or stocking off.

So it is very safe to assume that she does not take any shower per shift just a quick clean at the sink.

Took me a while to realize that ,but to be fair I was expecting her to be terrible the first time around and she was just amazing, then the 2nd time was solid enough utilizing the similiar tricks but a bit rushed so some flaws were noticed ..............

Too bad as this girl is just sizziling hot, A total Centrefold material. With a face of an angel. Does know a lot of tricks to tease. so much potential . In fact the first time around she reminded me a lot like an even hotter version of the famous Barbie(I.e Nikki from Srm fame).Her web pics does not do any justice as she is 100 times better looking in person.

If she can get on the track she has got everything to become the superstar of Utopia.
 
She has been in my TDL but these now she is out...
If I pay for a BS I better get a fucking booty slide no a corset slide.
and the shower thing is just NASTY.....at the end of a hard working day she must be sticky as hell!

She's OUT!
 
That's too bad - she was on my to do list - her pics are amazing - but not washing after is way too skanky for me
 
As I said before that the first session was soo good that I did not notice it, 2nd time around I gave her the benefit of the doubt. figured it out the 3rd time around. Sounds stupid but all I can say in my defense is that My mind goes somewhere else ,in the presence of beauty.

No, I doubt that she has got any flaw on her abdomen, I think she does not take the corset out because of convenience.
 
She never said that she does not take a shower.
We have just figured it out, mostly because of the corset & stockings ,which re always there. Maybe she does take a shower or 2 but not always after a session.
 
I think showers after a session or at least taking a minimum of 5 minutes with some baby wipes, running water and hot moist cloths to scrub the private areas, should be pretty much mandatory. Now showers with the lady either before or after the session are also important and always appreciated.

I don't think any lady wants to see a guy who is RANCID and smells like shit because he took a hearty dump just before coming to the place and did not wipe his ass properly and has shit still clinging to his buttcrack/or smells because he jerked off 3 times before going to the place and didn't even bother to shower off the jizz stuck to his pubes before heading out... and it is always nice to see ladies who don't have nasty smells coming from their vaginas.

I mean is showering really so difficult? Hell I think most MPS should just do either shower or hot tub massages, then we can all be reasonably sure that both SP and Client are somewhat clean before the session is over.
 
I had a session with Ivana a few weeks back. Like you MILUPA it was my first with her, had a wonderful time and did'nt notice anything. She was the next closes to Jenna Jameson I could touch lol. I was looking forward to book another session with her but after reading this.....I'm not so sure now.
 
can you imagine? I am sure it happens where the dude, walks in, skips the shower and then is told when the attendent walks in...

shower or no session...

ah well. just gonna stick to the one i currently enjoy seeing, till she tosses me out.
 
I have seen Ivana numerous times, both at Enigma as well as currently Utopia, i have never had an issue with smell or odour, she has always been fresh and delivered the massage that i went in to get. I don't think we should accuse the girl of not showering, how do we know what she does when our session is over. I don't think a girl as popular and classy as Ivana would have worked for some of the top spas in the city if this was the case. I think its a bad assumtion to make, and as i said she's always been a pleasure to see.
 
I have also seen Ivana a few times, I saw her again today.. There was an AMAZING lineup at Utopia...lots of SUPER hotties! Im actually quite impressed~.Paris and Emma were SMOKING HOT.. was hard to choose.. I didnt notice that she smelled... super soft skin.. cute face and great personality!
 
never said she smelled or had an odour (perfume...). re-read the post. hygiene might involve not putting the out fit on till after you clean up a bit..putting the outfit back on, to leave to take a shower elsewhere sorta defeats the purpose of taking the shower ( the outfit will be exposed to the oil sweat of the dude she was just with, so she might re-pick something up she washed away in the shower). That or having the same corset rubbing up against multiple dudes is about the same as not bothering to change the towels between sessions...which would freak people out if you saw an ass stain on the towel when you walked into the room? don't you think?
 
You guys are bordering on silly.

First off, many busy MPA's dont shower in the same room as you, they will go into another room and shower there. I cant speak for Ivana but based on what I'm seeing posted here, there are no odours, she smells fresh... tells me that she is changing her clothes as well, otherwise it would smell after the 2nd client she does a bodyslide for.

I highly doubt a girl as good looking as her would slack on her hygiene standards. Give it a rest guys.
 
Bordering? No pal, they've fucking crossed that border a long time ago.
 
The power of massageplanet.net/the market speaks or how an otherwise beautifully packaged product that failed to deliver upon it's launch in late Jan. has undergone reformulations since then based upon market feedback to better position itself as a more market oriented product.

I have seen Ivana since early Feb. And all the comments written about her are true. Rushed and rehearsed service, corsette slide and drinking water/coffee during massage, so dolled-up and made-up to the point of not wanting to be "messed up" during the massage because it would take too long to be put back together....and yes the non-full showering fits in because the probability of messing up her hair and makeup is high and the redressing would be time consuming.

Say what you will, but i have seen her long enough to have witnessed transformations in her. Believe me, if she could escape from the massage session "unscathed" she would and did for a couple of months. But when the negative feedbacks started arriving on massageplanet.net, she has slightly altered her approach. More customer oriented and inter-active than at first....but still.

Now the non-full showering issue has provided a large hurdle for her to clear. She always presented herself as clean and fresh to me, but then again i have seen her mostly as her first client of the day.....though I have never witnessed her showering.

She doesn't like to get "messed up", even co-workers have commented how she exits the room looking like she just stepped out of a hair and beauty salon.....which is usually not the case with most MPAs.

It's been a tough transition for her(negative feedback) because it affected her possible future income but mostly because it affected the way she wanted to provide her service to clients.

The market has spoken.
 
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  44. luckywellness:
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  47. SL West:
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  48. EMSpa_schedule:
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  49. Lily Spa:
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