Question Massage to start or no?

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Sooooo, I'm genuinely curious on how you guys and any MPA that wants to answer can give me insight. I've been hobbying on and off... With a standard time of 40min sessions, do you prefer your MPA arriving when you're already on the bed or when you just get out of the shower? And as a quick follow-up in either situation, do you opt to skip the massage and just get into it?

Too forceful or are you/MPAs down with that?

Most I've been with are cool with meeting me after I'm out of the shower and we just get into it without the massage, but I see others that aren't so much.

Please do speak up as I'm willing to learn from my fellow Siths!
 
I don't get on the bed/table until after she enters. I prefer to greet her properly, first, then get on the table.
For a first session with an MPA, we generally start with a massage. I think MPA's like to size you up and engage in some conversation during a massage, first. If we clicked on the first session, then on a repeat session, she might suggest skipping the massage (love that!).
I personally think skipping the massage on a first session with an MPA is a bit too forceful.
If a first session is going well, I often ask to massage her, too. So starting with a massage is a good way for me to suggest that we switch to me massaging her.

Question for OP: What's the best way to suggest skipping the massage without sound like a perv? When I've ever skipped the massage, she has always suggested it, and I naturally oblige.
 
Let them dictate pace… allotta petite Asian girls kinda nervous @ beginning… wtf nose what happened b4 me? So she says shower, 🚿 disrobe, lie down… s’ok, Im cool w that… :)

… when I repeat, then I find some girls accelerate 2 the fun part, but others insist on msg 1st… 💆‍♂️ … I could nvr get Lucy @ SL 2skip msg, even tho Id grope her while shes workng… yet Gigi @ Blossom Spa, so shy she didnt even offer menu till I asked repeatedly 1st time I saw her, then disrobed outta sight… now I lay down 4 msg & shes naked f/ waist down… surprise! Im expectng 2c her yoga pants, then instead, hallelujah! :hot Naked girl … so msg = very brief! Mostly postgame…

So I do what they ask, but … Im usually touchng the girl… very accidentally & gently if shes new, a bit more aggressively if we’re familiar w each other… Crystal @ GW has gf vibe w me, sometimes starts chattng, flirtng, complaining about life, as soon as door closes, then launches into DFK & somehow got naked without me seeing 🥴
 
For me it usually depends if my first visit to a place or not, obviously more discretion if your not familiar with the facility. Where I am considered a regular ( when the owner is calling/messages you when a new girl or your favorite is working) then I prefer to wait in front of the shower and see if the attendant helps me dry off. I prefer playtime first and always ask if I can do my best at a playful massage - if the answer is no, respectfully move on with what is the attendant’s preference. There isn’t always a connection with a new girl at first but maybe next time. Not long ago I went to a place for the first time and enjoyed massaging and chatting with the attendant so much that we ran out of time for my massage (or anything else), been back several times now and we have a better time management plan. I agree with the comment about properly greeting each other a the beginning, if it’s the first time with an attendant do you really want the first thing they see is you hairy back and ass?
 
I don't get on the bed/table until after she enters. I prefer to greet her properly, first, then get on the table.
For a first session with an MPA, we generally start with a massage. I think MPA's like to size you up and engage in some conversation during a massage, first. If we clicked on the first session, then on a repeat session, she might suggest skipping the massage (love that!).
I personally think skipping the massage on a first session with an MPA is a bit too forceful.
If a first session is going well, I often ask to massage her, too. So starting with a massage is a good way for me to suggest that we switch to me massaging her.

Question for OP: What's the best way to suggest skipping the massage without sound like a perv? When I've ever skipped the massage, she has always suggested it, and I naturally oblige.
TOTALLY AGREE WITH ABOVE

I always opt for at least a 1 hour session at a semi-legit spa. Shorter periods tends to feel rushed. Extending your time might not be possible as popular MPAs are usually booked from dawn to dusk.

I usually shower and groom right before I get to MP. Meet MPA in my street clothes, let her know I showered, I prefer to undress in front of her, Welcome any kind of assistance.

If I showering at MP (prefer spas that have in room showers) .......I take my time drying off.....see if she offers to help....if not I will ask her to help.
Kinda breaks the ice get a hug....chit chat.... get a feel for her attitude (is she all business ....motherly ...or a sexpot)....are we vibing .....is there sexual tension....

I Let her takes lead when to start massage.......on first visits I might take the lead to start massage if I sense she only wants to play for bigger tips ( massage for me is like forplay, touch therapy ,,,,sets the mood).
I sometimes also offer to massage her (to gauge the to mood...getting a feel for extras).

I am open to changing routine (fun stuff first) is if MPA is a regular and knows what I like. I have had great sessions like this. Go with the flow

Our modi operandum (MO) is usually determined by our priorities on that particular day and visit. Whether feeling sore..... "release" of sexual tension...or just being a "dog"
Massage is a must for me, part of my MO in the ....challenge..the hunt...tthe pursuit and conquest of pussy. Whether on first of repeat visits.

Semi-legit spas usually offers a decent massage with wider options and fairly liberal extras.
Holistics spas I consider to be nothing more than F**K shops where massage is usually non-existent or a waste of time cutting into the main course. Might as well see an SP in a comfortable setting
 
For me it usually depends if my first visit to a place or not, obviously more discretion if your not familiar with the facility. Where I am considered a regular ( when the owner is calling/messages you when a new girl or your favorite is working) then I prefer to wait in front of the shower and see if the attendant helps me dry off. I prefer playtime first and always ask if I can do my best at a playful massage - if the answer is no, respectfully move on with what is the attendant’s preference. There isn’t always a connection with a new girl at first but maybe next time. Not long ago I went to a place for the first time and enjoyed massaging and chatting with the attendant so much that we ran out of time for my massage (or anything else), been back several times now and we have a better time management plan. I agree with the comment about properly greeting each other a the beginning, if it’s the first time with an attendant do you really want the first thing they see is you hairy back and ass?
… if yer horny :horny & not lookng 4 msg, when they ask what kind of msg, say “relaxng msg” or “gf” msg, not medium or soft… I use 2say soft msg & they didnt get it, but relaxng, they get yer drift… “gf” msg u can say if their English = gd, but a FOB MPA likely gonna b confused by that…
 
If you’ve seen her more than once. Sit on the side of the massage table. They know right away what’s up lol
 
Ask the MPA what she wants to do, usually she will expect to get the massage in because it gives her time to screen you. My ideal first session is a good massage with decent conversation, pre and post-flip teasing into the extras. For years, this was not much to ask for. Today, most sessions start with a discussion of what services I want, after which I engage in foreplay (usually improves their service) and then she goes down on me and we go into FS. Some girls insist on doing a massage and they are just not that good at it, which is fine but it does make for an awkward start to the session. So really in the current context I think girls are fine with you asking to skip the massage. At worst they'll say no but leave the door open to extras.
 
Depends on the spa. For Flirt, I would go straight to the fun part. For Semi legit, like Suko, I would do like most said, warm up a bit with a massage and proceed to see what the girl can offer.
 
Introduce self on arrival.
Let her know if you need a shower or not.
After shower I would be standing or sitting on bed depending on if I have finished drying off.
Awkward have convo lying face down or with dick pointing to the ceiling ( actually might be good)
If not finished allow or ask her to help. A
Good time to initiate convo what kind of massage and service you looking for.
Follow her direction. On first visit massage first is probably a good thing.
Can always find out during massage phase what fun stuff is available by talking or picking up on non-verbal cues she sends you.
Is she progressively accepting of touching or does she pull away.?
Does she speeds up the massage?
Does she comment about tips, call you a bad boy etc. Some cues are related to YMMV some are just her routine with new clients.
With the fun stuff let her dictate. You might kill the mood if you too aggressive.
Try to shower after session. Sometimes shower is gross then get the hot towel clean-up.

Repeat visits increase knowledge comfort level. Can switch things up
 
You guys do this much thinking when you go for a massage?
I think with the "big head" so that the "little head" does not have to. LOL
Books much have been written on how to get pussy.
We are just sharing thoughts and strategy that works for us.
Not a conscious thing when youve been at this game as long as I have.
That is why some get more than others. :)
 
I think with the "big head" so that the "little head" does not have to. LOL
Books much have been written on how to get pussy.
We are just sharing thoughts and strategy that works for us.
Not a conscious thing when youve been at this game as long as I have.
That is why some get more than others. :)

I've been at this a long time. Probably too long. My best sessions have been ones where I started out going with the flow. Once the girl is comfortable with you a lot of fun can be had.
 
I've been at this a long time. Probably too long. My best sessions have been ones where I started out going with the flow. Once the girl is comfortable with you a lot of fun can be had.
Sometimes "it is is not flowing" and you don't want to waste your time or money. Most MPAs want the guy to take the lead so you should have a strategy that facilitate communication and comfort.
 
Depends on the spa. For Flirt, I would go straight to the fun part. For Semi legit, like Suko, I would do like most said, warm up a bit with a massage and proceed to see what the girl can offer.
Strange... My experience at Flirt is that they start with the massage. Starting with the fun part only happens on a repeat.
At Flirt, how do you stick-handle around the initial massage on a first session? A massage has always been proposed at the start, both at Flirt, and all other higher end places (Muse, PA, etc.)
 
i definately go for massage first to set the mood and some foreplay so to speak. I don't lay on the bed until the mpa comes in as a sign of respect so to speak or to ensure no switch and bait haha
 
I never had a problem in escaping the massage and went right to the fun part. I just told the girls what I wanted and they would follow; never has an objection.

When the girl came to the room, I usually held the girl closely and exchanged a few nice words, light kissing then I would frankly say….since this was the first time we met, let me tell you what I wanted…...So far, I found the girls were very receptive and delighted to my straight forward approach and happy they didn’t have to guess. All my requests were within Flirt limits; may be that was the reason I never had any issues.
 
I never had a problem in escaping the massage and went right to the fun part. I just told the girls what I wanted and they would follow; never has an objection.

When the girl came to the room, I usually held the girl closely and exchanged a few nice words, light kissing then I would frankly say….since this was the first time we met, let me tell you what I wanted…...So far, I found the girls were very receptive and delighted to my straight forward approach and happy they didn’t have to guess. All my requests were within Flirt limits; may be that was the reason I never had any issues.
Hmm... I could learn from this.
 
I believe you will not have any issues in most semi holistic spas too, as long as you are gentle and requests are reasonable. Most MPA are happy not to do massage which are tiring and they enjoy the fun part as much as we do, if we are gentle. Some just went to the fun section without I asked,
 
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    FRIDAY at 𝗦𝗨𝗡𝗥𝗜𝗦𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔: NANA & NAYLA. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟯𝟮𝟱-𝟴𝟬𝟴𝟲 ☎️ NANA is a slim & pretty Chinese lady with liberal services. NAYLA is a tall, young, beautiful & curvy Spanish girl. Come and say hola. SUNRISE SPA, welcomes you to experience total relaxation in our comfortable, clean, cozy environment.
  32. NewOriental:
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  33. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Jessica 💕💕 155 cm, 90Ibs Pretty Girl with amazing personality and super easy to get along 🥑 Sasa 💕 Sexy Vietnamese Body Type She is very sweet Provides Excellent Customer Service 🥑Judy💕 is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl ☎️647-446-0886
  34. ASPA:
    𝗙𝗥𝗜𝗗𝗔𝗬 𝗮𝘁 𝗔 𝗦𝗣𝗔: 𝗔𝗺𝘆 & 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝗺𝗮𝘀𝘀𝗮𝗴𝗲 𝗥𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗲𝗹 🅰️𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀🅰️, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 🅰️𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲🅰️ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  35. Golden Sunshine Spa:
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  36. Soul Relax Spa:
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  37. ForeverWarden:
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  38. HolidaySpa:
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  39. Annie Spa:
    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️ (647) 891-9688☎️ ☎️ (416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Baby😘🥰 A young, vibrant 22 year old petite spinner from Vietnam with a calm and welcoming presence. Her dark, flowing hair complements her soft, warm smile, creating an approachable and friendly atmosphere. She carries herself with
  40. Moneylee:
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  42. See You Health Center:
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  43. tommyboy_69:
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  44. Endless Joy Spa:
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  45. Red Rose Spa:
    🌸 We have 5 hot brown girls today 🌸 KAVYA, CANDY, SALMA, MALIYA, MONIKA, SANA, PRIYA 🌸 2588 Birchmount 🌸 2 Invergordon 🌸 647-702-8800 🌸 Please visit for a great erotic massage
  46. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 beautiful young girls are working today , young sweet slime 30’s and Young fun Tina curvy body open mind, fun GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  47. Lulu1980:
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  48. Endless Joy Spa:
    ✨✨✨✨✨[GRAND OPENING]✨✨✨✨✨ 💞Endless Joy Spa💞 🎇 (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565🎇10am-2am, Young Slim Petite Chinese Lin, Sexy Slim Chinese Kiki, Sexy Chinese Linda, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie
  49. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa 🌹🌹🌹3 girls 🔥🔥🔥5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke☎️416-817-3366👍 New girl Cherry and Luna 😘😘😘😘Hot and sexy body, super body slide, very provocative service😘😘😘, professional super Vicky deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise😍😍😍😍❤️You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the back door with plenty of parking spaces
  50. lotushubspa:
    Dear customers, Lotus Spa is located at 10737 Yonge St unit13. The girl who works today is named Mary💋Lisa💋Coco💋. We have massages from Taiwan, China and Korea for you. First-class service. Come and try it quickly👍💋Please contact 9052375885💋 or SMS 4163565876💋
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