Need some advice please...

Jazmine N

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I have a client scheduled for my practicum next week who is very large lady. I have a couple questions. I am not sure how much different it will be as far as pressures , I mean, I know it's relative for all people but do extremly large clients need deeper pressure to get to the muscles? Also she will be hanging off the sides of my table, is there anything I can do to help her feel more secure so she is not feeling like she's gonna topple off? I'm concerned we will be putting major stress on the table and I am almost afraid to add the working wieght.Please note.... I am NOT being mean.... I am honestly not feeling like I know how to handle this situation. I have a love for all people , shapes and sizes...these are just honest things I have never encountered and I want to make her feel comfortable and to come back. Any advice on treating large clients would be appreciated. Thanks
 
Need some advice please...

If you are concerned that your table might not be able to withstand her weight and the working weight, I'd contact the client to ascertain how much she weighs. Additionally, I'd make sure there are NO contraindications involved (most specifically those associated with obesity or grossly obese people).As for strokes, if you have training in thermal therapies, you might consider using a heating treatment to warm up the tissues. And yes, your body is going to take a beating from the added work in order to provide an effective session.
 
First of all... has she been a client to the clinic before, and are all the tables the same? ย I am assuming that she has been there before since you have the heads up on her size. ย For your own sake, find out what weight the table can handle and just estimate. ย If she has been there before, and everything went fine, I wouldn't worry about it unless she is on the fringe of the table weight. ย I would drop my table a few notches that way you are comfortable and are not straining yourself through body mechanics. ย Also, watch when she gets on the table, if it creaks and bows (common sense) is that she is too heavy and should not be worked on, and your added pressure can collapse the table, especially if it is a portable table. ย Because the last thing you need is to get hurt before you are even out there, and you really don't want your client to get hurt.I definitely know what you mean, when I was in school, I convinced my shiatsu teacher to let us work on the tables, because I have had 2 knee surgeries and can't kneel down so working on the floor is extremely difficult. ย Now I am not a small woman, I am very athletic, large framed and dense. ย So I am not a lightweight, well my partner for the day was a woman who makes me look small... ok, so when we were working we had to sit on the table to get the connection and do the hara assessment... well oh boy did that table creak and shift when she sat down. ย I know we were maxing out the weight and since it was a portable table, it isn't one flat slab of wood... I was so afraid that we were going to end up on the floor!!! ย By the way this was a wooden aurora oakworks table. ย So just take precautions and use common sense. ย I know it will be hard to turn away a client, but safety should be your first concern. ย But if she has been there before, she feels safe and has come back, and you will be ok.
 
Need some advice please...

And yes, your body is going to take a beating from the added work in order to provide an effective session.

Just a note that an effective session doesn't have to give your body a "beating" no matter what, if one pays attention to body mechanics and uses available tools. ย Being a fat client is not an assault on the practitioner.

To the original poster: ย I have many regular clients who are "morbidly obese" (one of my target markets) and their pressure requirements vary as much as do those of the very tiny client or clients of any other size and body composition. ย Just as many extra-big people need very light pressure as need very heavy, so checking in with her can be exactly the same as it is for any other client you've ever seen. ย You might consider setting your table a little lower than usual, for your comfort and hers. ย If you don't have side extensions for her arms, you can always tuck the sheet in under the length of her arms while not working on her back or arms. ย I do this for clients of all sizes (if they're not claustrophobic!) and many like the feeling of security.

There are few tables on the market that couldn't handle even a very heavy (500+ lb.) client. ย I don't have a special heavy-duty table and it holds up great even with the largest of clients. ย I'd be very very wary of asking her weight because my god how rude, but she also may be worried about the table herself so knowing your table's max will help you keep her safe. ย To reassure yourself -- how many times have 4 or 5 students sat together on one table during a demonstration in class, and how many times has a table busted under the pressure? ย (This used to happen all the time when I was a student and the number of table failures was zero.)

Your care and concern for your client will show. ย It's up to her whether to come back but I have no doubt you'll provide a caring, quality session.
 
Thanks everyone. You have been helpful and reassuring. ย  I was so not wanting anyone to think I was being rude ย :(. I will not ask her wieght, I would never do that . I hate it when people ask me mine ( I could stand to lose about 50 lbs myself idealy) So thanks for the tips. ย ;D I really appreciate it.
 
If you have purchased a decent table from one of the major manufacturers, you should be all set - they are made to to be sturdy. ย Give them a quick call to dbl check (as mentioned above). I wouldn't bother with asking her weight, don't think it's necessary & agree that it could be considered rude. My other suggestion would be to double check all the nuts & bolts. ย I know that my portable will work its way loose from time to time & it's just good common sense maintanence that should be checked often anyway. ย 
 
Being both obese and a student of massage, I can share experience from both sides of this issue. ย When we studied people of size in the special populations units, there was a suggestion in our text (Mosby's Fundamentials of Therapeutic Massage) that if the table couldn't handle the client, give the session on the floor. ย With all due respect to the MT/author, this is a terrible solution! ย Not only would it be embarassing, but it is often difficult and sometimes painful to get down on and up from the floor. ย Pressure: start LIGHT and work deeper at the client's request. ย Use more whole-hand strokes; fingers pinch and poke and may cause bruising. ย Adipose tissue is very fragile, containing one mile of capillaries for every pound of tissue. ย Fascia adhesions are common, and painful as well. ย My arms are especially sensitive, but my back can handle much firmer touch. ย  ย When you say hanging off the table, do you mean the sides of her body will? If so, try side-lying massage techniques like you'd do for a pregnant client. ย Large arms do not lay flat on the table. ย If you don't have a armrest on your table, roll your stool over and let her use it to rest her arms in a prone position. ย In supine, she may choose put her arms up under her head, as one of my clients does. Be sure to tuck the drape well at her side.Our Earthlite tables creak under any weight (and frequently loose screws), but the Tatum, Oakworks {and ...I forget the other brand at the moment} are much more stable.I appreciate that you took the time to get some advice. ย We all have hang ups about different issues with clients and this is a great place to discuss them "safely" w/o hurting feelings. ย 
 
Thanks for all the advise again. I felt SO bad having to ask but honestly wanted to know what was best to do so she will have a good experience and not because of any hang ups I have. I need to lose about 60 lbs as of this morning so I am last one to talk. I just was so concerned about how strict these table weights really are and it would make me feel AWFUL if I in anyway made this client feel insecure or worse yet get hurt.All your replies are appreciated I am feeling a bit less worried now. You all are great. ย ;D
 
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  35. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบOpen Sunday Wonder spa(9421Jane st unit127)โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800.very big boost Joey and Sunny working today,Joey is sexy girl ,she can provide very good massage with sensual touch, nice Sunny can provide deep tissue massage,she got a lot experience,come see them today,welcome to walk in๐ŸŒบ๐Ÿ‘™much try๐Ÿท๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  36. AliceSpa:
    SUNDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด:[/color] Hot Busty BLONDE Girl today at Alice Spa: ELLA (12pm-9pm): is a small & curvy white young girl from Romania, super super busty EE Cups, blue eyes, blond hair, ok services, bbbJ cfs. Please call before booking her due to high demand. Alice Spa has DEBIT PAYMENT available now! Plenty of free parking. Front and back entrance. ALICE SPA, 4915 Steeles Ave. E,
  37. xodyhard:
    Anyone know tracy from forever spa,does anyone where she working aside in forever spa?
  38. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธYoYo๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธHellen Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  39. ASPA:
    ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐—” ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: EMMA and Best Massage RACHEL.[/color] ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable. RACHEL is a slim and attractive
  40. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Jennifer & Mia. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded. Come and give her a try, and youโ€™ll be sure to come back for more. Mia is a Caribbean service queen temptress with incredible curves & very friendly attitude. She is able to bbbj
  41. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธAmy & Suki. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills SUKI is a sexy lady, short with big boobs, medium massage & nice services. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด
  42. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธRebecca๐ŸŒธTiffanyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  43. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘body scrub๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 Nice girl Luna is joining. She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Jessica ๐Ÿ˜˜can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking space at the back door
  44. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 13 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, MALIYA, PREET, KIRAN, ANNA, NISHA, SALMA, SABHA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  45. Applover:
    This chat is something. So no one believes Markkk
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  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Sunday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, CARA & JOLIE. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. CARA is a young & attractive Chinese attendant, 5โ€™3โ€ & 100 pounds with natural C Cup big boobs, very friendly
  48. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Helen๐ŸฅฐBrand new very young university student from Hong Kong. Great massage skills with a wild flirtatious side willing to tease and please to bring you to satisfaction. Perky natural 34C breasts perfect for kissing and body slide
  49. hiyamickey:
    Reinella wellness will have 6 girls working, young petite Japanese girl Amanda, Queenie, Lucky, Jenny, Vanessa, Ella @6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  50. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll with natural 34C melons, slim waist, & a cute little 33โ€ booty. Tiffany has incredible bbbj skills, tastes as sweet as honey