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Thanks for the detailed and informative response.



I've had the same idea about those who negotiate right up front and I am definitely more comfortable with subtlety followed by leaving a decent but unsolicited tip.

Thanks again for your insights. Very helpful.
 
I think, in the suburbs, a significant factor is the local police department.

Some departments go after the amps and some don't.
And where they don't, you see a cluster of amps. Also some local
governments may push the police department to act.

Finally, some departments may be on the take.

This is the first amp in the Birdsboro area.
Usually, if one opens up, and stays open, others mushroom up.

The locals did not want that, they pursued it, and closed.

Prostitution at amps is usually if the girl asks for a tip for more than
massage, if you ask "how much for BJ or HJ or F/S and she answers
with a price, it prostitution.

If the amp price is a fixed price, say $160, without any talk,
and you are the initiator of sexual activity, its not prostitution.

If you pay house money, and then there is sex, and then you leave
a tip afterwards, without any discussion, its not prostitution.

Many of the really popular amp girls never talk price, and upon leaving
you lgive a tip, or at the beginning you just lay it down on the
night stand, its not prostitution.

I'm not a lawyer, but that is my impression. A lot of the so-so looking girls demand a tip upfront and if you give $60 and no more they will
tell you that's just for HJ, everything costs more. And they get caught
while the non-negotiators stay alive.
 
Too bad - I had a couple of decent visits to this place. Whenever I see this, it makes me wonder, "Who are these 'anonymous callers'?" This particular place - as many AMPs are - was low-key, quiet, and somewhat isolated. Is it because people (as the neighbors stated) just assume what's going on inside or do they also get information from sites like this one, where we post detailed reviews of the services provided?

Another question for you lawyers. What actually constitutes prostitution in an AMP? CBJ? HJ? Nudity? Where are the lines drawn?
 
AMITY โ€” The three women taken into custody from the Lotus Blossom Spa on Route 422 Wednesday have been charged with prostitution and related offenses, authorities confirmed Thursday.

SP, 51, MHL, 31, and SHK, 34, all Korean, listed their address as the Lotus Blossom Spa, 260 Route 422. They were arraigned and committed to Berks County Prison. Bail for Park was set at $100,000 cash and bail for the other two was set at $50,000 cash.

An investigation into the operation of the spa started in May after Amity Township Police received complaints from anonymous callers and neighbors reporting "the prostitution activity occurring inside the massage parlor," Chief County Detective MG wrote in a press release.

Also, an undercover detective from the district attorney's office met with the three women who have been arrested and charged at the spa during the investigation. During the meetings inside the parlor the three women agreed to provide sexual services on the undercover detective in exchange for payment, G wrote in the press release.

Police obtained a search warrant for the establishment from District Judge VF Tuesday, which they executed Wednesday.

In addition to Amity Township police and county detectives, agents from the Department of Homeland Security assisted.

Officials found the three women inside the establishment Wednesday as well as electronic equipment, documents, U.S. currency and condoms.

Detectives determined that P was the manager of the massage parlor.

The owner of Salon 256, which is in a building adjacent to the Lotus Blossom Spa which was also called 260 Massage Therapy, said Wednesday that she and many of her employees and customers were aware of the prostitution that was going on at the Lotus Blossom Spa.

"We saw the trafficking but didn't see any servicing, but we knew what was going on," she said.

The owner of Salon 256 continued to say that the Lotus Blossom Spa had caused problems for her business since it opened in April. Several customers didn't come to her business because they thought Salon 256, which offers relaxation massages, was affiliated with the unlawful spa.

"We're glad they're busted (because) they just caused problems for us," the Salon 256 owner said.

Hearings for the three women are scheduled for Sept. 9 before District Judge VF.

http://www.pottsmerc.com/articles/2009/09/04/news/srv0000006300769.txt
 
The place was busted yesterday. I had a feeling with the location and traffic in and out of there that it wouldn't last long. I'm suprised that it made it through the summer. Here's the article:

http://www.pottsmerc.com/articles/2009/09/03/news/doc4a9faea56da7f015418756.txt



AMITY โ€” Three women at a massage establishment were taken into police custody Wednesday as part of an ongoing investigation by several agencies, including U.S. Customs.

Investigators arrived at the establishment, 260 Massage Therapy, also called the Lotus Blossom Spa, located on Route 422 east, around 1 p.m. and found three women inside.

The women were not identified by police Wednesday and there was no word what, if any, charges had been filed against them.

Investigators at the scene, including members of the Berks County District Attorneyโ€™s Forensic Services Unit spent several hours inside the establishment Wednesday afternoon prior to bringing three women in handcuffs out to waiting patrol vehicles.

One official at the scene said the investigation into the business had been ongoing for about three months.

Amity Township Police Chief Kent Shuebrook said more information regarding the investigation would be released by the Berks County District Attorneyโ€™s office today.

The investigation, Shuebrook said, is being conducted by the District Attorneyโ€™s office in conjunction with his department and U.S. Customs.

He confirmed the three women who were taken into custody were all adults.

The Lotus Blossom Spa which police entered Wednesday afternoon is on the first floor at the rear of a renovated barn. The front portion of the building, which faces Route 422, had a sign hanging on the front windows indicating office space there is available to be leased.

Another building, located less than 50 yards from the renovated barn, houses Salon 256, Salon and Spa. However, the owner of Salon 256 Salon and Spa said her business was not affiliated with the massage establishment where police were investigating.
 
Anybody got an address on this place? or a name or phone number? I'm like Rambo all I need is a loincloth, survival knife and address
 
I gave this place another try last evening. The experience was way better than the first time (as reviewed below). I was met at the door by a different mamasan, an older woman, dressed very professionally. After paying the $.60 house, Anna came in. She is very sensuous and friendly with very nice natural tits. She's also strong; if you like intense massage, she's the one. Following the shower, we returned to the room for the massage. Very playful and sensual from beginning to happy end. HJ, CBJ, ACG, mish, more HJ ... very nice. I left satisfied. ($1. tip.)
 
Alas, I called today to see if "Happy" was working and if they'd be open on Sat (July 4). The new mammsan said 'Happy no more here, you come in try other girls, they like Happy'. And they are not open July 4th...looks like only boring fireworks to celebrate my independence.
 
I went Saturday- EXTREMELY great time- will repeat!
 
It was Monday, about 12:30. I was trying to get there before the lunchtime "rush", but I hit a huge traffic jam on 422.
 
I stopped by here today. My experience was average and in many ways similar to swiggs'. I was met at the door by a younger lady, who led me to the massage room. Then Meesha came in and escorted me to the shower. Decent TS, then back to the room. I paid $.6 plus $1. for FS. It was the usual smorgasbord (massage, CBJ, ACG, mish), but the whole thing seemed mechanical and rushed. Meesha giggled a lot, but it seemed like she was distracted. She twice asked me where I am from and kept saying "You happy?" as if she was asking "So, you gonna cum soon?" There were other clients in the place and she was definitely rushing.

I do have to say it was the cleanest and best-decorated AMP I have ever seen. And the mamasan was very professional; she apologized for the busy-ness as I was leaving.

So, in summary, I didn't have a great experience, but I am open to the possibility that it was an off-day.

Anyone else have reviews of this place? I need to be talked into going back for a second try.
 
Divided highway...Spa is on the south side (going east).
Excellent furnishings. Looks a great deal like a hotel lobby. Sauna is for one person with large glass door.

Three girls present....No mamma san. Ymi met me at the door. Beautiful looking 28 (?) year old with size B. Flawless figure and very passable English.
Wore only a one piece which I pulled down and pushed up during shower.

Massage began with her nude on my back. No kissing. I asked for mouth wash after session was over. All in all, a very enjoyable time.
 
Well I caved. I wasn't going to hobby until after my Myrtle Beach trip in two weeks but I got so tired of waiting for a review on this place that I had to TOFTT. It might not have helped that I was home by myself all day doing housework for the wife and felt like getting out late afternoon.

The place is like 20 minutes from me up 422 and is next to the salon. I have a feeling this might not last because of traffic and possible confusion with the salon! Other than the salon being next door, it's in the basement of an old reconditioned barn and entrance is behind building away from highway. I had called on the way up and the girl that answered the phone told me 30 minutes. I made a stop and got there in like 20. Parking lot was full and saw 2 exiting. The place was clean and very nice. I had to wait about 10 minutes until she was ready. The one thing I did not like was if you were waiting you were sort of in the open and could see the entrance to two rooms. I caught a glimpse of another going from the TS to the room. Not very private.

Not sure if the mamasan was the one that let me in and was answering the phones. She was in her 20's and was very cute, wearing a sweat suit. She led me to the room and asked for .5 which is the special until June. She said that after June 1 the normal will be .6 unless you have a coupon for .1. She was very playful in the room and she gave the TS. Guess the other two girls I saw there were busy. It was a nice TS, again she was very playful and gave a lot of attention to the boys. Then guick sauna and pass off the one of the other girls, this one was Meesha. Both were maybe mid-20's and had maybe D's.

Massage was ok. It was a light massage that didn't last long. Most was light rubbing with her hands and tits. On the flip she asked for donation for a more intimate massage. Gave her $ and it was well worth it. I won't go into details (but by the traffic, word is out) but if you read any of my reviews from Sani in Norristown, this place was 10x's better!

Well worth the TOFTT.
 
Wasn't there a Help-U-Sell or Assist-to-Sell realtor there before?
 
yes...it is a building behind the salon 256 building. they put up a sign there a couple days ago. im gonna try it out saturday and i will let ya know !!!
 
It's eastbound just past the divide across from Island Pizza and before Limekiln Rd. I think I know which building shich sort of suprises me because there are other things there.
 
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  32. EMSpa_schedule:
    ๐Ÿ”ฅReady for a fantastic time?๐Ÿ”ฅ Today (Saturday), our amazing attendants are Lucy ๏ธ, Ivy ๐Ÿคฉ, Opal ๐Ÿค— and Sophie ๐Ÿ˜. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  33. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl Angela ,so young Petite and pretty๐Ÿ˜‹ open service ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ Sexy girl Suki deep massage ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  34. SL East Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Sexy Saturday๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” Cici, Yoyo, Amber, Juliet, GFE Eva,Echo,๐Ÿ†•Julia, Lucy, Akino & Jennyโ€” ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - Your Black Friday Bliss is Here!๐Ÿ™Œ
  35. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Judy๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅOur new Asian massage girl Judy is a vision of refined sensuality, with a graceful figure and smooth, flawless skin that radiates warmth and allure. Her striking black hair frames her delicate features, and her poised
  36. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธVivian๐ŸŒธAnna๐ŸŒธHellenCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  37. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: wonderspa: ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒ. 4young beautiful girls working everyday(open long weekend),Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…,new friendly nice girl CiCi,providing oil deep tissue to relax massage and nice body slide,back work.more experience ,๐Ÿ…nice Vietnamese Amy very beautiful face,open maid,relaxing tension release,really popular girl,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน
  38. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  39. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cherry Sara,Tracy & Cindy. Sara is young & slim with nice C Cups, trim waist, sexy bum and long hair. She is vary friendly uses her assets well. Cherry is slim and very beautiful, can deliver a great service experience. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed
  40. AliceSpa:
    SATURDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 416-298-0898 [/color] Alice spa has 3 attractive honeys today. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. SHERRY : is a taller busty
  41. ใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“:
    BESTU WELLNESS
    Yumi , โ€ŠMonicaโ€Š , Rachel , Lilly at BestU WELLNESS.
    CALL OR TEXT โ˜Ž๏ธ: (437) 830-0913 TO BOOK YOUR APPOINTMENT.
  42. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY & MAGGIE. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! Maggie is sweet, slim and very talented. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด 3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4 (Kennedy Rd & Steeles Ave E)
  43. SugarLoveSpa:
    Saturday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LINDA, LUNA, SARA, TIFFANY & VIVI. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. LINDA is a beautiful young Asian mix girl, 60Kgs with big D Cup boobs with pointy nipples, very friendly, bbbj and many services. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. SARA is beautiful
  44. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ AISHA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI (2PMโ€“2AM), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO (9PMโ€“2AM), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MIKA, ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (9PMโ€“2AM), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  45. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  46. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  47. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young sweet Michelle 25โ€™s with big buttocks open mind and sexy flirty Yoyo 36DD with curly body 30โ€™s open mind, young pretty popular Kitty 26โ€™s with curve body open mind and cute GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  48. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl Angela ,so young Petite and pretty๐Ÿ˜‹ open service ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ Sexy girl Suki deep massage ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  49. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga Today we have two waitresses: Water and Mia. Water is young, beautiful, sexy, fluent in English, and good at massage. Mia is tall, plump, sexy, and has first-class massage skills. She is conscientious and responsible in her work, and has many repeat customers.
  50. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Mia new Vietnamese sweetheart girl with amazing personality Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Bella She is Mexican Gorgeous face Yuki Sweet Singaporean Girl Cici Cute Vietnamese Gir โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
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