"non effective treatment"

[vballchicka204]

Hi All,

Technically this should be going in the student & training forum, but I thought it might be interesting for all reflexology peeps to ponder:

(I'm asking on behalf of someone doing VTCT reflexology) and one of their questions was: give an example of a non-effective [reflexology] treatment.

What an odd question! How do you judge if a treatment hasn't been effective? It might not have shown any outward physical effects, but the client may later realise how they have been feelingless stressedsince having treatments. Just wondered if I could have your feedback.

How would you answer the question?

 

[Baby Bean]

Hi Azalia

Is it a trick question? I think that there is no such thing as a non-effective treatment. Just giving someone the opportunity to lie back and relax with the expectation of benefit must surely have a positive effect.

Are the questions getting sillier?

Regards
Tucker

 

[Uhg.......]

Hi,

In my IHM (VTCT) course this was one of the criteria we had to cover. A non effective treatment was if a client objective was to ease a headache, or unblock sinusses, or improvement of hair condition (or anything else) - if this objective was not achieved it was classed as a non effective treatment.

So, actually a 'cr*p question as the client could have relaxed etc etc but if there was an objective not achieved it was a non effective treatment even though there could have been a whole load of other improvements and benefits.

Hope this helps,

 

[Gerbil Lover]

Gawd I wouldn't have known how to answer this either - I thought they meant something like (an extreme example) treating the feet when someone has gangrene!

We live and learn hey folks!
Ax

 

[Fatefinger]

Thanks for your replies everyone, very much appreciated. I have passed the info on and we are both in agreement that it is a very misleading and superficial question.

Jobelle- How can VTCT make their students write a whole assignment on the meaning of holism, and then say that if a client objective is not acheived, the treatment is classed as 'non-effective'?! Dear dear me. How frustrating...bet you really had to grit your teeth and hold your tongue over this one!

If anyone else wants to comment, keep the replies coming!

 

[Lisa S]

Hi Azalia,

this made me smile and think of the clients I have who tell me that they can't really say what the treatments do for them , but have been coming for several years !
And of course, we have all had the ones who come along with their sceptical heads on, and are totally sure that they will feel nothing/reap no benefits ( usually dragged along by their wives ! lol) and then become loyal and very happy clients !
Perhaps the people who set the questions are trying too hard to be scientific with these sorts of questions - I am now 10 years into my practice and still find the mystery and wonder of Reflexology as fresh as ever.
If anything, more pronounced, as my experiences grow.

Ru xx

 

[Robert W]

Hi Azalia - in the quantum world which I'm trying to a)understand and b)immerse myself in (this bit is effortless compared to a)[sm=scratchchin.gif]) NO TREATMENT IS INEFFECTIVE. It will have an effect at the very least through being a participant in an exchange of energy.
From another perspectiveit will have at the very least a Placebo or a Nocebo effect (Perhaps as much as 60% of atherapeutic exchange?(Nocebo = opposite of placebo, and pretty much what my Mum had at her acupressure appt the other day when he told her "there was no cartilege left and her vertebrae were grinding against each each other.". You can imagine how she's walking now!)
And then - Reflexology may even work! - (that's what I hear anyway!)
Sx

 

[pinkandprettyp]

VTCT and Holistic should not be said in one sentence - never the twain shall meet!!!

I have only done A & P and IHM through them - in the IHM class the following was briefly mentioned:

1. That it was part of the aurjuvadic (sp?) lifestyle which comes from India and it is hundreds of years old

2. That it is somehow linked to meridians and chakras and the lecturer then turned around to me (knows me from A& P class from the previous year) and said, you do Reiki, can you say something about the chakras. I got about 5 minutes to cover this and then we were told we will continue this some other time - that time of course never came. Read somewhere on HP about balancing chakras in IHM - we didn't go down there (but - I can go in another whole direction here so I will cut it short!)

3. When we were doing our first hands on on each other and we got to holding your hands on the face lecturer said to me - this is the bit where you can use yourReiki.

Other than this everything was healh and safety, hygiene in the salon and 3 x 3 case studies. Never did any assignemts or anything else on holistic as it just didn't feature. Maybe it depends on the lecturer as well but from a VTCT point there was no requirement for anything further.

Makes me wonder (hell no, makes me worry!!!)how they will approach teaching Reiki in a college setting!!!!

 

[Half_Proud_American]

Thanks Ru, Sharon & Jo for your reponses

Jo:

OOoohh yes....!!! Hot topic [sm=eeeK.gif]

 

[jnmedrano2004]

[sm=1syellow1.gif]Oh yes - I can say sooo much here BUT

[sm=hidesbehindsofa.gif]I'm chicken, every time I wonderdown the Reiki path (which is something I am very passionate about) the reactions on the pages make me loose my equilibrium for days!

So, for now, I'll stay away from the subject [sm=dogrun.gif]

 

[Sandra Van der merwe]

hard to say and yes silly question... but, to me, a non effective treatment is where perhaps you do the 4 - 6 treatments and for whatever reason the client is not feeling an improvement or whatever. [/align][/align]say, for example, they have been coming to you to help with a back problem, that does not appear to be responding, then what you did was non effective and its time to refer. [/align][/align]<shrug>[/align]