Not sure where to put this question, what's the difference?

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I see a lot of advertisements for various schools, some use the general term massage therapy while others use medical massage therapy. Is there a difference between the 2?

The reason i'm asking is initially I hope to focus on medical/clinical massage as opposed to working in more spa type setting. I'm not sure what working in a hospital is like, or type of additional education would be required.

Thanks again
 
medical v. spa type massage

Klauss-
The main differences between medical massage and therapeutic massage is that medical massage often requires a billing code related to diagnosis(such as whiplash,rotator cuff strain,lumbar musculature strain), a direct referral and presription from a physician, and is most often covered by insurance. Therapeutic massage is primarily for tension and relaxation purposes and does not require a prescription. Hope this helps you.

Blessings and Light-
Johnny
 


The school I attended was a "School of Medical Massage Therapy" in Lebanon, Ohio. We learned techniques for treating tmj, whiplash, thoracic outlet syndrome, sprains/strains, fractures, etc along with therapeutic work for other complaints.

Our instructors stressed that whether "they" liked it or not, those folks who sought to designate massage as "medical" vs "therapeutic" [which included the PhD and the physician who owned the school] were deluding themselves if "they" thought the 2 ideas could be completely disassociated with one another. Medical massage is therapeutic and therapeutic massage can be medical.

Stress is a medical condition, so is a sprain/strain condition, a whiplash injury, etc. I was taught to treat all of them with the appropriate massage techniques. To the instructors, and to me, the only designation that really counted was the diagnostic code provided by a physician to the LMT, when necessary, for insurance claims to be processed. The work didn't, and, for me, doesn't change just because of the the Rx or diagnostic code. What I learned and what I still practice are as medical as they are therapeutic. They cannot be divorced from one another just because there are now schools that claim the education you will receive from their curriculum is somehow superior to that of other schools because they have tacked the word "medical" into the name of the school and/or its curriculum. The "proof in the pudding" [as Grandma would say] is in what you are actually able to do when you get the heck through school and get out in the real world.

To my way of thinking it's just one more devisive way to splinter the profession into groups of "I'm better than you are because I can do..... better than you can....." If you want to do spa work, great, be the best you can at that, and more power to you. If you want to do work with people with physical concerns, find the school that teaches you that and go for it!!! There are schools for whatever you want to learn. Visit the ones in and around Columbus [since I see you are in Central Ohio] and see what their curriculums are like. Visit the student clinics and see what kind of work the students are capable of as they near the end of their formal schooling.... by my count there are at least 3 schools within Columbus proper ..... American Institute of Alternative Medicine, Columbus State Community College, and Central Ohio School of Massage.... Investigate schools outside of your area to see if their curriculums suit your needs and vision for your future better. Check out the school at Hocking Hills Community College, or the schools in the Akron/Canton area, the school in Lima, or near Bowling Green, Cincinnati, or even Lebanon. There are a lot of really good schools in the state...... check them out personally, and then take a look at their statistics with the medical board for the number of graduates that successfully pass the boards each year....... you will find the school you want if you just look around and explore what each school has to offer rather than looking for a school whose name sounds like it is better than another's.

Good luck in your search.

J
 


AnastasiaB said:
Medical massage is therapeutic and therapeutic massage can be medical.

What I learned and what I still practice are as medical as they are therapeutic. They cannot be divorced from one another just because there are now schools that claim the education you will receive from their curriculum is somehow superior to that of other schools because they have tacked the word "medical" into the name of the school and/or its curriculum.

To my way of thinking it's just one more devisive way to splinter the profession into groups of "I'm better than you are because I can do..... better than you can....."

:iagree:

I was going to post a reply yesterday but hesitated since I wasn't sure if in your state (Ohio) there was a legal designation between the two terms. Here in Florida an LMT is an LMT is an LMT no matter what your school called itself. All LMTs practice within the scope of their individual training. If you've been trained in only relaxation massage, then you'd work in a place that only offered that. If you've been trained in therapeutic modalities then you'd be able to offer those skills. All LMTs are treated equally as far as ability to bill insurance but if you bill that you are doing MFR or NMT then you have to have the paper to back it up that you are qualified to perform those modalities.

To my way of thinking medical and therapeutic are two terms for the same thing. Both terms imply that you are "treating" a particular problem. I fail to see any difference between the two.

All schools are not equal though. You need to research them to find the one that offers the curriculum that interests you the most. And also keep in mind that school is not the end of your training. There are tons of different things to learn for your CEUs.

Angie
 


Moogie -

In Ohio an LMT is an LMT is an LMT when you pass the Medical Boards exam. A massage tech is a massage tech is a massage tech when you take the course work and whatever other qualifications there are for that work - to my knowledge it's a lighter course load, and focuses primarily on relaxation work, not the medical side of the profession.

Either way, when you are licensed as whichever one you studied to be, that's what you are in this crazy state. Techs can't claim to be LMTs - that's a "protected" designation denoting the education, etc..... that's about it...............
 


AnastasiaB said:
To my way of thinking it's just one more devisive way to splinter the profession into groups of "I'm better than you are because I can do..... better than you can....." If you want to do spa work, great, be the best you can at that, and more power to you. If you want to do work with people with physical concerns, find the school that teaches you that and go for it!!! There are schools for whatever you want to learn. Visit the ones in and around Columbus [since I see you are in Central Ohio] and see what their curriculums are like. Visit the student clinics and see what kind of work the students are capable of as they near the end of their formal schooling.... by my count there are at least 3 schools within Columbus proper ..... American Institute of Alternative Medicine, Columbus State Community College, and Central Ohio School of Massage.... Investigate schools outside of your area to see if their curriculums suit your needs and vision for your future better. Check out the school at Hocking Hills Community College, or the schools in the Akron/Canton area, the school in Lima, or near Bowling Green, Cincinnati, or even Lebanon. There are a lot of really good schools in the state...... check them out personally, and then take a look at their statistics with the medical board for the number of graduates that successfully pass the boards each year....... you will find the school you want if you just look around and explore what each school has to offer rather than looking for a school whose name sounds like it is better than another's.

Good luck in your search.

J


Thanks AnastasiaB

I have actually atteneded Hocking college for nursing school but was unable to finish, wonderful school btw. I have yet to visist the central ohio schools but will as soon as i'm able to.


My other big concern is the sheer amount of mt's in the cetral ohio area, lot of competitionout there lol.

Thanks for your thoughts.
 


klauss said:
My other big concern is the sheer amount of mt's in the cetral ohio area, lot of competitionout there lol.

Thanks for your thoughts.

Dont worry so much about competition. Becoming an MT is relativly easy compared to becoming a doctor. It takes more than just attending school and passing a national test to be a good MT.

The schooling and test dont make an MT. Some have the touch before they go to school. For these, school helps to develop these skills even more so. For those that dont have the innate skill of touch, they may learn it, then again they may not. Then there are people skills, some have it and some dont. Just becuase you are an MT doesnt mean people are going to beat down your door to get a massage from you.

Everyone who is in this field has unique skills. Some MT's will rise to the top even if there are many other MT's in your area. If you are good, it will show and your business will blossom.
 
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    Sunday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Jennifer & Mia. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded.
  32. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Mia๐Ÿ˜ beautiful young Singapore girl. Mia has a very sexy body, and beautiful busty boobs and golden blonde hair. She can give a very good teasing and relaxing massage with a sensual great playful HAPPY service. So very sexy beau
  33. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธAmy & Suki. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills SUKI is a sexy lady, short with big boobs, medium massage & nice services. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด
  34. SugarLoveSpa:
    Sunday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA & CHERRY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. CHERRY is a young, slim, friendly and absolutely gorgeous Vietnamese beauty, 49 Kgs
  35. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 beautiful young girls are working today, young fun Ivy 30โ€™s with big buttocks open mind and Young cute Jessy slime 30โ€™s open mind, pretty Summer and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  36. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘Body scrub ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366New girl Luna joined. She can provide very good massage and sexy touch. She knows how to take instruction and please a man๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘Jessica๐Ÿ˜˜ can provide deep Thai massage. Earlobe kiss๐Ÿ’‹She looks like an ordinary girl but has a round and beautiful ass. The hot body slide is her unique asset to attract men๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œCome see her today. Feel free to walk in or make an appointment at any time. There is plenty
  37. SugarLoveSpa:
    : Saturday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHERRY, LUNA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CHERRY is a young, slim, friendly and absolutely gorgeous Vietnamese beauty, 49 Kgs with Bounteous D Cups. Real pics, unreal services! BBBJ, shower together, full menu. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty nice natural 34C Cups.
  38. hiyamickey:
    7 girls working at Reinella wellness, 19 years old young Japanese girl Amanda, Queenie, Ella, Lulu ,Angela, Candy @6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  39. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธ โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธ 5124 Dundas W Etobicoke 3 girls Tiffany round big breasts, sexy perky buttocks ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ Suki 36 DD large breasts, rosy nipples, small nipples, Wow ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Super great body slide ๐Ÿ‘ Luna has a slim figure and smooth, delicate skin like a little girl ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿฅฐ Welcome to enter or make an appointment โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 rear door with a large number of parking spaces
  40. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick On Username and FOLLOW USโœ… Today ๐ŸŒธRebecca๐ŸŒธEmily ๐ŸŒธCamila ๐ŸŒธHellen ๐ŸŒธAlisa โ˜Ž905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ
  41. AliceSpa:
    SATURDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 416-298-0898 3 Girls Today at Alice Spa: JULIA (10-9) from Philippines, young girl, busty, E cup, curvy short body, cute face sexy lips ๐Ÿ‘„, excellent massage and service, deep strong massage, play good, good deep bbbj, Rim , come in mouth or face, dfk ...available all menus, must try!
  42. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจClick On Username and FOLLOW USโœ… Today ๐ŸŒธValentina๐ŸŒธBarbie โ˜Ž289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ
  43. SunriseRH:
    SATURDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ SPA: JULIA. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ JULIA is a slim but curvy Spanish attendant with natural B Cups & a pretty face. She can take a load off your mind. SUNRISE SPA welcomes you to experience total relaxation in our comfortable, clean, cozy environment. Our lovely selection of beauties can totally satisfy your expectations.
  44. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Doris ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Midi ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ  address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  45. Moneylee:
    Full season Wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Connie , Student big boobs buttocks Vicky ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo , young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Linda ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  46. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Apple๐Ÿ˜˜ - Brand new girl from Taiwan just a
  47. See You Health Center:
    Suki ๐Ÿ’• From Taiwan, sweet girl Sexy tight body amazing C cups with Those incredible nipples ๐Ÿฅ‘๐Ÿฅ‘Sami๐Ÿ’• Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl She is 5โ€™ 2โ€ tall, 98 Lbs With D Cup Melons Great Fashion Style and Provides Excellent Customer โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-988-2950
  48. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Natalie ๐Ÿ’• She is from Philippines CBC Petite school girl 5โ€™ 2โ€, 100 lbs black Hairโ€จGFE, BBbj, DFK in her menu ๐Ÿฅ‘ Judy๐Ÿ’• is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl She is 5โ€™2โ€ tall. 100Lbs, with D Cup Melons Cici๐Ÿ’• Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl ๐Ÿฅ‘ โ˜Ž๏ธ647-446-0886
  49. YM203:
    MoonMoon spa/Persian girl and Jenny Yoyo in today
  50. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Foxy -๐Ÿ”ฅYour new addiction at Sparkling Spa! A tall 5โ€™7โ€ sexy Korean girl
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