One of the Woman mags...

[unpublishedpoet]

has a reflexology article in it, apparently... anyone know for sure which mag?

ahh, just found out its the 4th october, womans own. lol guess i best go and buy one!

oh posted here for maximum viewing )

 

[Mummy_to_one_and_bump]

Rosie,
You will have to let us know if it is worth buying or not.
I don't normally buy womans magazines unless it is for a specific article, but if the article about reflexology is any good, I might get it.

 

[ahvcsscu]

i bought the mag for the article. for 74p i thought it was worth it!

anyway, good article but always some things for one to disagree with... like the client saying the reflexologist said she'd be pregnant in 3 months. a little worrying to make claims like that, i feel.... although they did indeed become pregnant!

here is the reflexologists website [link=http://www.thebabymaker.co.uk/index.html]HA HA bet she'll be mad, they got it wrong in the mag![/link]

good positive stuff though. and one of the women was married to an osteopath... and although he tried, he couldnt get her pregnant by himself! (oh this is a dig at anahata... i swear he recommends osteo for everything! <g&gt

mods... i guess this can be moved to the reflexology forum now )

 

[Yeaa boiii]

Hi Rosie,

Just wanted to say that Sue never said she'd be pregnant in 3 months. That's just women#s magasines dramatising everything as they do. Sue has helped a lot of women get pregnant and has a good success rate, but as with everything, there are no guarantees!

I built Sue Calvert's webpage by the way, and yes, a bit annoying that they printed it wrong, but people are still finding it!

Take care
Hugs & Smiles

Sylvie x

 

[callsignfuzzy]

Hiya Sylvie
Welcome to hp, do pop to new members and say hi...
T
x

 

[Peanut Demorest]

hi sylviabr,

nice job of the website. )

as it happens, i was careful to say that it was sue's client who had said it, not sue... i was only commenting on what i read.

 

[EndumnEmibure]

He does indeed and don't I know it.

 

[kpwqslfi]

She doesn't need to say anything does she? Anybody who has a webiste titled thebabymaker.com is surely saying that anyway? Not sure I am comfortable with that one AT ALL! For one thing the therapist is only a facilitator and I have a problem with anybody who presents themself like that.

I am trained in NAET allergy elimination techniques and able to clear people of allergies but I don't like the title a fellow pracitioner has 'Wecureyou.com', either. I think it's important to keep your ego out of the way to be honest.

 

[trdsjgf]

hey candie,

where ya been? hope you have been well )

i was on a site yesterday where i am constantly evangelising reflexology for all things pregnancy. the discussion was whether reflex can induce labour and with only one treatment. i am quite convinced that if baby is ready (and that is a big IF), reflex can indeed speed things up and make labour easier.

however, a fellow poster said, she had been booked for a reflex on the morning of 10 days overdue but the appointment cancelled. BUT she delivered the baby that evening (wow great stuff reflex!). her point was... IF she had had the treatment and delivered, she would be extolling its virtues BUT cos she had baby anyway, it made it a moot point. hard to answer that one... except that reflex may have made labour even earlier rather tha having to wait until the evening!

absolute claims are a dangerous thing in a skeptical climate, i feel.

 

[When the angels die ...]

Good points made here. I talk about reflexology to clients in terms of 'facilitating'. After all it's one of many factors that can influence well being. Even with medicine, you can't know for sure if it's a drug that's helping someone feel better, or something else eg the power of positive thinking, dietary changes, reduced stress etc etc. There is no point trying to fathom out WHY someone is feeling better, isn't it enough that they are? That's what I think.

Funny one the reflexology and labour thing. I've only done this twice with people in advanced pregnancy. One went into labour 24 hours later and the other 48 hours later. One labour was quick and uncomplicated, the other went less smoothly. It just goes to show that you can't make any guarantees to anybody, just try your best for them.

 

[iknzfunt]

Hi Candy,

I hear where you are coming from, but well, you've got to call a webpage something, and most good uRL's with the words Reflexology or Reiki in them are alreadt taken. If it makes you more comfortable, then you can get to Sue's webpage through: http://www.lhirondelle.co.uk/

Sue didn't ask to become the Baby Maker, it's all just kind of evolved, and I guess that makes it part of her Destiny?

She herself says that she believes it's not everyone's destiny to become a Mum, and that is tough for some, but that's life. If she can help those with imbalance, tensions, poor diet, poor nutrition, to resolves these issues, and they become able to conceive, that's a good thing isn't it?

Sylvie x

 

[xwgjhvsi]

Hi Sylvie,
I see you have reregistered???? you have two usernames, please tell us which one you would like to use and I will get the other one deleted.....I have already invited you to say hello in the new members forum, please go ahead and do so and maybe you would also like to invite Sue to join.....

Tracy

 

[Kermenthir]

Hi Sylvie. Firstly, I have to say, if it were me, I would say absolutely 'NO'! to the website name!!!!![] Sorry, but EGO's and all that. Wouldn't have it myself.

Yes, of course you are right, it is a good thing. However there is no way to say that it is the reflexology that did it - just try and find the evidence. I myself am passionate about all complementary therapies - that's why I run my own Centre for no gain whatsoever and have the permanent headache of making ends meet. I do it for the clients and the satisfaction that the job provides. I myself know how much people benefit but I also know that other therapists can do the same job, sometimes better. There is nothing difficult about reflexology, anybody can do it and we all do our little bits to help.

I have a BIG problem with people who put themselves forward in this way and sorry if this offends you as she is a friend of yours, but I don't feel comfortable with it. The whole point about Holism is that the body HEALS ITSELF. We don't do that as therapists. We facilitate. We do our bit and let the body do the healing and whatever else is needed. Therefore you have to take a big step backwards and get our ego out of the way. Nobody can make such claims, whether it is on a website, television or whatever. I also wouldn't make mention to famous clients. People are people and feet are feet.

It's very flattering to get such results but I think it is important to keep it in perspective and realise that it isn't us that did it, we just helped.

I accept that a lot of the good web names are now taken, but don't accept this as a reason to call oneself the 'babymaker'. That's a big claim, especially when the therapist involved admits that getting pregnant isn't always meant to be. Maybe the babyfacilitator would be better?

[&:]

 

[~*RAWK PRINZZEZZ*~]

Siobhan - absolutely. Well said.

 

[Cyrus]

Agree with Candie here. Using the name The Baby Maker is just playing on people's desperation to start a family and it doesn't do reflexology or holistic therapies any service at all.

Lesley

 

[yrepwueaiuqiszeth]

Sorry but couldn't help adding another jibe! Woke up thinking about it. On her website she says that she has treated Michael Flatley. A truly holistic therapist would make no distinction whatsoever between clients and would never announce the fact that they had a famous client. We are supposed to be coming from somewhere where all that crap doesn't matter.

I'll run for cover now shall I?!

 

[awesomegirl]

HI
I totally agree with what has been said already. In my job I meet many women who have been trying to get pregnant for a long time, and some that just get pregnant very easily.
I know how desperate these women can get when all they want is a baby.
I recently came across a 40 yr old who left her husband because they could not have children to find someone who could give her a baby, and she has had a girl delivered last week.
This web page name is just giving them false hope in a way. it may help it may not. I perform reflexology on pregnant woemn but give them no guarantees of results.
Glynis

 

[Cynthia rodriguez]

Hi Candie,

I do know what you mean. If you don't make a publicity splash, using marketing , then you won't get anywhere, you won't reach the people who you want to reach, and at the end of the day it's happy women becoming mum's that really counts. Women's Own is read by a lot of women, and woman's mags want the celebrity stories and a dramatic storyline. I might not agree 100% with the image that Sue projects, but I respect her decision to do it this way.

I'll give you another example. My fella sells mobility scooters and he wrote an article for a magasine which is called ***********. It was written to ensure that people become aware of the ways some companies work, and prevent people from being ripped off. We since put this article on our webpage, and the spin-off in terms of trust built, and business success, has been vast. My boyfriend has effectively become Saint Steve the mobility scooter repair guy for the whole of England, and he is a good guy, but he's made good money too as a result. Sometimes the end justifies the means., although in this case, we never meant for this article to build the business. It was written simply to help people to repair their own scooters, and stop themselves from being ripped off.

I think Sue's success is due to many factors, diet advise, supplements, relaxation, reflexology, fertility awareness. There's nothing miraculous going on, but she wants to reach cleints and she wants to earn a living too, so in order to do that, she has chosen to market herself in this way. If she did play on the desperation of women who want to become Mums, taking their money and giving them nothing, then that would be a a disgrace, but her success rate is high, and sometimes what people need most is a bit of hope, and adding that image and the publicity gives them that faith. The mind is a powerful tool, and I believe all this must have evolved for a reason. I think it's part of Sue's destiny to help many more women, and these tools and the marketing are enabling her to do that. Getting into Women's Own without the element of magic and mystery simply would not happen.

Yes, can you delete my other registration. I'll use this one:
SylvieBr.

Sorry if I don't get more involved with discussions. It's a busy life that I lead nowadays, but that's another Story, involving skydives, former pop-stars, Scootermen, Romance, and the reclaiming of my life: http://www.lifeafterms.com but my Story is not dramatic enough for Woman's Own! LOL!

Sylvie x

 

[luchalibre99]

Thanks Sylvie for your reply.

However, the one thing that sticks with me is the lack of client confidentiality. After all naming a client, be they celebrity or otherwise is indiscreet goes against everything I practice.

Sorry, but we all have to market ourselves, but reflexology is not the same as mobility scooters or any other commodity. We are not only selling our service, but our discretion as well.

Lesley

 

[dogwoodgm]

Sylvie, it doesn't surprise me that you choose to leave the discussion as you probably feel uncomfortable with what has been said.

There are a lot of us out there making a living out of what we do, (quietly). I run my own clinic and my business partner spends a huge amount of time on the website, which we do to get more business, but we choose not to call ourselves by such a name as it isn't what we are about. We don't make any reference to famous names and it would be indiscreet to do so. We also don't make big claims about all the people we have helped in many ways, not just in getting pregnant, and believe me there are many of them.

I am not saying there is anything wrong in earning a living from doing this job, that's what we all want to do, a job we love and pay the bills too, but you are clearly missing the point about 'Wholism' as is Sue. When a therapist works from a truly holistic perspective none of that stuff matters and the mere fact that she markets herself in this way reinforces the fact that she is not coming at it from that place. To justify it as being 'her destiny' doesn't really add any weight to the argument. Once again you are implying that it is she who has the gift to make this happen? She doesn't. Many can do the same. And to then go on to compare reflexology with scooters and spare parts, well..... not quite the same thing really.

Sorry, but I feel very strongly about it. Yes, happy mums is a great result, selling yourself on the back of it isn't. Why not be content to just get on with the job and leave it at that? That's where the ego steps in I am afraid.[&:] Big no-no.

I am deleting your link advertising your boyfriend's scooter business, sorry but advertising isn't allowed on HP.