Osteoarthritis

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I need some advice here....PLEASE......My father has OA, in his knees and hip. Just last week, he has experienced pain and swelling in his right hand AND only pain in his left hand. I need treatment options please.

Thank you...
 


Hi there!
Sorry about your fatherโ€™s pain. I know that Reiki helps any condition and pain. It really works miracles. The other modality that helps arthritis that I know of is Tibetan Sound Bowl Massage. It specifically targets joints and itโ€™s noninvasive. I truly believe in mind over matter. He will feel better if he talks to his knees and hips. Tell them how much he loves them, that he is sorry to neglect them. Tell them they can relax and go back to whole. The best time is while waking up or falling asleep, that is when the access to the subconscious is mostly open. Imagine while light washing over his knees and hips. And do it daily. Also, he probably has issues with his first chakra. Chakra balancing, meditation, yoga will help, but itโ€™s a long process. First chakra is the hardest to work on. Incorporate red color in daily life as much as possible: red underwear, red coffee mug, red glass, red food, even red light while sleeping. Hope it helps. Hope your father feels better. I pray for him!
 


Several of my clients tell me that nothing helps their OA like having a mild to moderate pressure, full body Swedish massage. I'm not entirely sure why, except that it gets the surface circulation increased, and certainly moves lymph. One of my friend/colleagues does Manual Lymph Drainage (chickly method) with OA clients and has great success.

Gentle massage over the affected areas may or may not have success, it's individual, as is range of motion activities. Mild exercise may help people with OA maintain their level of mobility, and in some cases may reduce pain and swelling. This should be approached carefully and moderately, as it can sometimes exacerbate swelling. Water exercise often works where regular exercise does not.

Shiatsu, indirect myofascial work, rebounding and Bowen Technique are all excellent modalities for OA, since they get things moving in a very gentle manner, both muscularly and fluids.
 


i agree with stacy - for my OA & RA clients, they do so much better when we can get to that emotionally "melted" state and just do a good, swedish massage with compressions.

good luck!
 


Osteoarthitis patients often show marked tightness, density, and restriction of the quads as well as tightness of the patella. Myofascial release to open up the quads and cap reduces the forces placed on the knee joint and patella, reducing pain and improving strength and function. I nearly always see an improvement in function. No change in the arthritis, as seen on an X-ray, but a marked reduction in pain. The same principles apply to other joints as well.
 


Hi! I'm sorry, too, about your father's pain. My story with OA is, I've had OA in my hips since I was 20 (I was hit by a car at 16 and it developed over time). A chiropractor took x-rays and diagnosed it, and then proceded to help with it and I've been completely pain free ever since (I'm 30 now, so it's been 10 years!). I also am in no danger of having hip replacements, which is a very real danger with OA in the hips.

For your father, I would definitely try Reiki! The Tibetan Sound Bowl massage is one I've never heard of and it sounds fascinating! I also like acupressure. There are certain points in the body that correspond with other parts, and since these points are located all over, the practitioner can work areas that are not painful, but that will benefit the affected areas. Yoga (and possibly pilates) may also help--a lot!

One thing I took for my hips that will also probably help is a natural nutritional supplement called MSM. It stands for some really long name, but I forget what it is. It's available at health food stores. I personally trust the "NOW" brand the most--their quality is decent. Apparently it contains collagen.

I tend to like combinations of therapies. Sure, I never know "which one" is "doing the most good", but I like to look at all the possible causative factors and take a multi-disciplinary approach. I also find that when I do, I get better faster, which is always the main goal, even if I don't know which one "did it". It's also possible that ALL the approaches I try each contribute in their own way, so it's a win-win :)

Good luck! I KNOW that natural therapies help, and that they can be just as effective (usually MORE so) than western medical options (which are usually invasive, expensive, and not without the side effects, which can sometimes do more harm than good), and I'm fairly certain there's something out there that can help your father. It's just a matter of finding which one or which combination is most effective, and this can vary from person to person or from condition to condition.

I hope he gets relief soon! I'm sure there'll be plenty of other awesome advice. I'm always amazed at the level of knowledge on this board! :)

Hugs,
~Jyoti
 


jyoti said:
One thing I took for my hips that will also probably help is a natural nutritional supplement called MSM. It stands for some really long name, but I forget what it is. It's available at health food stores. I personally trust the "NOW" brand the most--their quality is decent. Apparently it contains collagen.

MethylSulfonylMethane. It doesn't contain collagen but it does support healthy maintenance and production of collagen in the body. It's an excellent supplement for OA.

Little backstory: It's a dietary sulfur and was "discovered" and researched here at UofO, and the first publicly held license to distribute was a guy across town who had been horribly burned in an accident some years previous. He had purple keloid scars all over his arms, chest, face, neck. Used MSM daily, and the scars eventually went to normal, healthy skin. In fact now, nearly 25 years since he started using it, you can hardly tell he has burn scars.

One of the very first places he distributed a retail product - both single ingredient MSM and lotion containing MSM - was at the local health food store in my little hometown. My mother called the number on the bottle and talked with him, this was back in the 80s, and signed up as one of his original distributors. It's not an mlm, just a home business. I have her account now, or maybe they split them, since we are like 23a and 23b lol!

Around here we use it for all kinds of ailments: joint pain, acne, burns, mosquito bites, roseacea, ecxema, brittle nails...

One of the more famous uses was James Coburn who credits his late-life comeback to the movie biz to MSM. He had debilitating arthritis, could barely move, then started using MSM and recovered sufficiently to greatly increase his workload before he passed away.

/ramble. :lol:



(forgot the link: MSM at Rich Distributing. This is not a link to my account, it's direct. Not selling anything here. ;) )
 


Breathe said:
Several of my clients tell me that nothing helps their OA like having a mild to moderate pressure, full body Swedish massage. I'm not entirely sure why, except that it gets the surface circulation increased, and certainly moves lymph. One of my friend/colleagues does Manual Lymph Drainage (chickly method) with OA clients and has great success.

:iagree:

Angie
 


Wow, thanks Breathe! That's some awesome info about MSM :)

And I had no idea lymph drainage would help OA, either! That's too cool. I have GOT to try that. :)

Hugs,
~Jyoti
 


Hi! Sorry about your dad- I've been doing massage for over 22 years and approaching 60 it's not surprizing that i"m getting alittle arthritas in my hands-Ouch! Personally for my hands, I've found keeping my upper back loosened up with massage really helps- so just keeping the circulation healthy in the general areas really helps. Also has he been taking Glucasamine and Chondrotin? After about 10 years I thought I was going to have to quite. I started taking it and it gave me another 10 years to do massage! :D
 


Thanks for the extra info on the MSM, Breathe.

I met a doc in the early 90's who ranted and raved about it. I never took it, but have had a few clients who did and say they have good results.

This is enough for me to go out and try it now. I have a few hand ailments on occasion.

Thanks again!

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massageclips - nice to meet you. Always nice to have an oldie-but-goodie on the boards to keep us younger ones in line!

I am genuinely looking forward to more of yous posts. Such time and knowledge you'll pass on to us.
 


I use a fair bit of AIS to treat ostearthritis. It's not too fun for the clients early on, but I teach them to do as much for themselves as possible. So far all have showed significant reductions in redness and swelling, and report increased ROM with less discomfort... all within one week.
 


I have lupus and scleroderma, relatives to arthritis. I personally like medium to deeper Swedish massage along with some compressions. I work out and stretch on my own........so I'm a little leery of others doing any stretches on me......doesn't take much to go over that pain threshold. If I'm in a flare where the joints are swollen, light massage is ok. Haven't tried any other modalities, but they sound interesting.

Breathe, thanks for the info on MSM. I checked out the website and couldn't find any info on whether MSM negatively interacts with the drugs I'm taking now, like celebrex and prednisone. I know I have to be careful with some of the non-prescription products. Any ideas on this?
 
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    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Anika , Student pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Michelle,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella, Taiwan girl DD Boobs Thai deep massage lily,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  34. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ - An exotic tall and slim Vietn
  35. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบOpen Sunday Wonder spa(9421Jane st unit127)โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800.very big boost Joey and Sunny working today,Joey is sexy girl ,she can provide very good massage with sensual touch, nice Sunny can provide deep tissue massage,she got a lot experience,come see them today,welcome to walk in๐ŸŒบ๐Ÿ‘™much try๐Ÿท๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  36. AliceSpa:
    SUNDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด:[/color] Hot Busty BLONDE Girl today at Alice Spa: ELLA (12pm-9pm): is a small & curvy white young girl from Romania, super super busty EE Cups, blue eyes, blond hair, ok services, bbbJ cfs. Please call before booking her due to high demand. Alice Spa has DEBIT PAYMENT available now! Plenty of free parking. Front and back entrance. ALICE SPA, 4915 Steeles Ave. E,
  37. xodyhard:
    Anyone know tracy from forever spa,does anyone where she working aside in forever spa?
  38. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธYoYo๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธHellen Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  39. ASPA:
    ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐—” ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: EMMA and Best Massage RACHEL.[/color] ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable. RACHEL is a slim and attractive
  40. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Jennifer & Mia. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded. Come and give her a try, and youโ€™ll be sure to come back for more. Mia is a Caribbean service queen temptress with incredible curves & very friendly attitude. She is able to bbbj
  41. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธAmy & Suki. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills SUKI is a sexy lady, short with big boobs, medium massage & nice services. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด
  42. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธRebecca๐ŸŒธTiffanyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  43. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘body scrub๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 Nice girl Luna is joining. She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Jessica ๐Ÿ˜˜can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking space at the back door
  44. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 13 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, MALIYA, PREET, KIRAN, ANNA, NISHA, SALMA, SABHA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  45. Bnblover:
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  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Sunday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, CARA & JOLIE. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. CARA is a young & attractive Chinese attendant, 5โ€™3โ€ & 100 pounds with natural C Cup big boobs, very friendly
  48. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Helen๐ŸฅฐBrand new very young university student from Hong Kong. Great massage skills with a wild flirtatious side willing to tease and please to bring you to satisfaction. Perky natural 34C breasts perfect for kissing and body slide
  49. hiyamickey:
    Reinella wellness will have 6 girls working, young petite Japanese girl Amanda, Queenie, Lucky, Jenny, Vanessa, Ella @6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  50. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll with natural 34C melons, slim waist, & a cute little 33โ€ booty. Tiffany has incredible bbbj skills, tastes as sweet as honey