Say Something or Let it Go?

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I'm posting in this section because I'm posting from a client's perspective.

A few days ago after taking the NCETMB in a town about 2 hours from me, I had a massage at a yoga studio. This was my first massage there. It was not their regular therapist. Let me say first that, overall it was a pleasant experience. The lady was nice. It's not going to sound that way by the time I'm finished here, but it really was an OK massage. ;)

First thing that happened was this lady in sweats and a rumply shirt walked out into the waiting room, pointed at me, and said, "You're next, right?" I didn't answer her right away because 1. I didn't know who she was, and 2. I didn't want to say "yes" and wind up with a private yoga lesson or something. I said, "Yes, if you are the massage therapist."

We went back into the room which was absolutely beautiful, but she said she really didn't like it. The sheets on the table were old, paper-thin, and had a plastic-y feel to them. There was no fleece underneath, so I stuck to the table through the sheets. Mind you there was no intake at all. I didn't sign anything. She only asked me why I had come in that day, and didn't ask about injuries, illnesses, or medications. Nada. So, just before she started the massage, I remembered to tell her that I have sensitive skin - could she tell me what was in her massage oil?

She read ingredients that included, of all things, peanut oil and lanolin. Good thing I asked, right? Definitely couldn't use that, but she had a bottle of unmarked lotion. "I don't know what this is," she said, then picked up a bottle of powder. "I did some reflexology on the last lady so I have this powder. I just grabbed it out of my bathroom this morning-"

"I can't do talc," I interrupted, horrified that this stuff had come out of someone's BATHROOM. I opted for the lotion. BAD IDEA. I have since broken out in boils all over my back, upper arms, neck, and face.

Having just taken my exam, I was trying really hard to let it all go and relax, you know? Being quiet. THen about 5 minutes into the massage, she asked me, "So what was on the test?" That was the end of the relaxation for me. That wound me up and I talked about my test experience the rest of the time.

When I turned over, the sheets stuck to me and popped off the table. This lady YANKED the sheet out from under me to put it back. "I hate when that happens," she said.

This is my favorite part. I had a little stomach ache, so she asked if I'd like some abdominal massage. The side-to-side stuff was great and my stomach ache was gone within a couple of minutes. But then she started the circular massage COUNTER CLOCKWISE! I thought maybe she was working a modality I wasn't familiar with and didn't say anything for a minute. Then I asked, "What modality are you using?" She told me, and it was one I'd never heard of, where the meridian points radiate out from the navel. I asked, "Do they go counterclockwise?" She said, "Oh, they go clockwise," and proceeded to demonstrate - by continuing the COUNTER CLOCKWISE motion. It only went on for another second, so I just kind of chuckled and hoped I wouldn't be backed up for the next few days.

After we finished, I wandered out into the waiting room. The place was deserted. The Yoga studio was gearing up for a big event that night, so it was understandable. THe massage lady was nowhere to be found. I decided she must have left. Not knowing who I was supposed to pay I left a note for the owner of the studio with my contact info so that I could pay. He came in just as I was leaving, and we took care of everything.

ANYWAY, should I say something to the yoga studio owner? Or, should I just let it go? I wonder if it really matters since she wasn't their regular MT and I'm not a regular client or member of the studio. I worry mostly about the lotion and the powder and the counter-clockwise abdominal massage... and the lack of intake. *shrug* I can't decide what to do.

Believe it or not I would really like to go back to experience a massage from their regular MT, and I don't want her to be all uptight because I complained.

Kemilyna
 


I'd let it go. You said that in spite of the things you didn't like about the massage, overall you thought it was OK. Some MT's are great; some aren't. I don't think giving detailed feedback is the route to making everyone great. You can't change other people.

However, you can change your own personal client experience, by learning to speak up during your massage sessions. When she broke the silence and asked you questions about the exam, you could have replied, "Thank you for asking, but I'm trying to let that test go. I relax best in silence, so I'm going to be quiet and just soak up your massage." During the abdominal portion, you could have said, "I think you're moving counter-clockwise." I realize it can be hard to speak up; it's hard for me, and I've been receiving massage for a very long time. However, through practice, I have learned to speak up for myself, and it has made my client experiences better.

Lastly, if you have sensitive skin, I recommend you bring your preferred oil/lotion to your massage appointments. Although it's ideal for every MT to have a variety of options for you, most won't.

Kemilyna, I know you're going to be a great massage therapist! Your posts show so much caring and knowledge and passion for this profession. It can be shocking to meet a massage therapist who isn't as dedicated. The good new is, those types of therapists don't tend to last long. Clients simply don't come back. Chalk this up as an experience of what "not to do."
 


*raises hand* I would like to ditto everything Bliss said. I think you'll do quite well, you pay attention to detail, you're interested in your profession and seem to love learning.

The only thing I don't agree with is this:

Blisss said:
The good new is, those types of therapists don't tend to last long. Clients simply don't come back.

:lol: (Say it ain't so!) I know (and know of) a LOT of really cr@ppy massage therapists who have really great marketing skills. They've been in business for years, but you'd swear they only took a weekend class and were stoned for the whole thing, or else they got into the profession because they needed to assault somebody and not get thrown in jail. 8) Granted, they have to market continuously because they don't have a lot of repeats, but they still seem to thrive. Weirdness abounds. :dogrun:
 


Thanks for the input! I feel better now about not saying anything to the owner.

Usually I bring my own jojoba to my first visit with a new MT, but... well... I was a little preoccupied when I was packing for the trip and just forgot. I almost forgot to say anything to her at all, euphoric as I was about passing the test! ;) Same with the not speaking up. I've gotten SO much better about that, but again, the euphoria had me in a *very* forgiving and giddy frame of mind LOL. I'd say that's also why *I* couldn't shut up once she got me talking.

This particular MT has been practicing for 10 years! It made me think, if this lady can do this sort of work and still have return clients after 10 years, then I'm going to do JUST FINE! :D

I got my official results in the mail today, BTW. Gotta get a passport photo and a couple of things witnessed by a Notary Public, and then I'll send my application off to the State of North Carolina! Yipeee!

Kemilyna
 


Congratulations on passing the exam, Kemilyna! This calls for te Dancin' 'Nana!
:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
 


I don't have much to add about the massage other than:

Congrats on passing your test!!!!!! Now go get yourself a good massage. :D
 


Hey Kemilyna!!
CONGRATS on passing the NCE!!!! I knew you could do it!!!! Hopefully the wait for a license won't be too long! Sorry about your yucky massage experience!

Congrats again! :)
Johnny
 


Thanks guys!! :) I did go and get a Reiki session last weekend, 'cause the boils wouldn't allow for anything else. But the Reiki was EXACTLY was I needed! :)

Johnny, how've you been *hug*? Long time no see.

kemilyna
 


Been thru a few things in the past week....my Grandma died 9/1 and I am just wiped out. Her funeral was last Thursday and between visiting with family and trying to get some precious rest,I am still not back to optimal functioning level just yet. I went back to work last Friday,9/7,right after the funeral vause they only gave me a total of 6 days to recuperate some. Then to top things off,one of my my great-cousins on my mom's side died on 9/4,and her funeral was last Saturday. I am very low in energy, been very depressed,have not felt too good and have cried almost everyday since Granny died. I cannot seem to deal with the fact shes gone and I wasn't there to say goodbye,as I was at work when she was lying there on life support just for the hospital's liability! This sucks!!! I have not worked on a single client since last Thurs. I am just not coping well right now :shock: Sorry for the rant,had to release this!

Love and Light,
Johnny
 


I'm so sorry, Johnny. :cry: Losing someone is so hard. Wish I could give you a real hug, but I'll have to settle for sending you positive thoughts.

Be gentle with yourself! You deserve some time to re-adjust.

kemilyna
 
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    (((เค†เคชเค•เฅ‹ เคฌเคฟเคจเคพ เคจเคพเคŸเค• เคฏเคพ เคจเค–เคฐเฅ‡ เค•เคฐเคจเฅ‡ เคตเคพเคฒเคพ เคธเคฐเฅเคตเคฟเคธ เคšเคพเคนเฅ‡ เคคเฅ‹เคน เคฏเคพเคฆ เค•เคฐเคจเคพ. ))) :oops: If you want Service without Drama or Tantrums, Remember it.:oops: Will Try To Give You The Best Possible Sweating Experience With Full Company. TAKE MY WORD.?? Don't Waste Your Time And Money In Some Other Place Where You are Really Upset Loosing Out Both Money And Fun. Ok Try With Our Girls Once Then Your Visit Will Be Regular To Me.... _________________N O T E_________________ If u like my services Please Please Do n
  27. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Young Sexy CBC Rachel. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  28. jonno bravo:
    moon moon
  29. scooby911:
    Kyla allure massage
  30. emjay:
    Kharghar
  31. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 7 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, MALAY, SANA, AMANDA, EVE, AAVI, MAY, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  32. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ SARIKA, CAMILLA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  33. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699Today we have 5 girls on Friday๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹New jap girl Tina๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ :heart4 Diana - Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too Wendy- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility CiCi- Exotic beauty with great service...
  34. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ(437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Anna๐Ÿ˜˜- A stunning sexy girl from Hong Kong
  35. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Michelle,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Aad,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  36. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cici , Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Jessica ,Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary . ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard Ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  37. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower body scrub ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนevery day 3 girls,Cici and Mia and Jenny๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนso sexy girl very good service deep tissue massage ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  38. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young fun Tina with curve body and young sweet student with Summer , pretty GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  39. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 818-8896โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Bella ๐Ÿ˜˜ is a beautiful Vietnamese busty girl, very sexy, with RMT style massage and very good playful service. She excels at teasing and is an open minded service queen willing to make you very happy. So friendly and so sweet with excell
  40. Birchmount&14th:
    FRIDAY at ๐๐ˆ๐‘๐‚๐‡๐Œ๐Ž๐”๐๐“ & ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’๐ญ๐ก: SUMMER & YUKI. Birchmount Rd & 14th Ave., Markham, ON. Call or Text for details and appointment. โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฐโ˜Ž๏ธ SUMMER is a beautiful, tall, and very versatile Thai lady. ๐—ฌ๐—จ๐—ž๐—œ is here today to provide an amazing professional massage. We are open 24 Hours daily. We have clean rooms and plenty of free parking.
  41. Dreaminn:
    FRIDAY at ๐Ÿ’ญ๐——๐—ฅ๐—˜๐—”๐—  ๐—œ๐—ก๐—ก ๐—ช๐—˜๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’ญ: HONEY, KELLY & TINA. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ โ˜Ž๏ธ HONEY is a beautiful slim Asian lady with an ample bosom, slightly curvy with a great ass. Her services are highly sought after. KELLY is a young & pretty Asian girl, very slim model figure, 5โ€™3โ€ with unreal bbbj skills & very liberal services.
  42. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Young Sexy CBC Rachel. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  43. SunriseRH:
    FRIDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: MICHELLE & SUMMER. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ MICHELLE is a young, curvaceous beauty, 5โ€™2โ€ & 130Lbs, 37DDD-31-41, a trim waist, and a nice butt. Come and be pampered. SUMMER is an incredibly sweet Asian babe, 5โ€™3โ€ with a captivating 36D-28-39 figure, weighing 108 pounds. Summer has very good massage & services.
  44. NewOriental:
    FRIDAY at ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’š๐—ก๐—˜๐—ช ๐—ข๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—˜๐—ก๐—ง๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ: HAPPY & LULU. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿด๐Ÿญ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl with natural B Cups, and a slim to medium frame. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times.
  45. ASPA:
    ๐—™๐—ฅ๐—œ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐—” ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: ๐—”๐—บ๐˜† & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  46. HolidaySpa:
    Friday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธCindy & Lina Cindy is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best! Lina is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did.
  47. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Mia, Nana & Sasa. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Mia is a Caribbean service queen temptress with incredible curves. She can bbbj like a queen, & is open to dfk & cfs.
  48. Moon203:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Persian Turkish i today
  49. Sparkling Spa:
    SLIM, SEXY JAPANESE CHANEL AND SEX GODDESS ZOE WORKING TODAY @โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธY๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜
  50. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 7 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, MALAY, SANA, AMANDA, EVE, AAVI, MAY, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
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