Setting Time Boundaries...Need Help!

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Hi everyone,

My healing practice is becoming busier and I've run into a problem I need help with.

The clients I have , or teach are wanting to talk A LOT before and after the session as well as by email or opn the phone. I realize this is a part of the session, and allow for 1/2 hour pre and post consultation time with a session.

But I'm getting people wanting to talk, emails and phone calls that are really beginning to drain my time not only for other clients, but for my personal life as well.

Suggestions on how to get this back into balance would be greatly appreciated. I'm usually very good with boundaries so I don't know how this snuck up on me. I suppose when I was not as busy, it was not so much an issue.
 


Do you think you could start with getting just one client back on schedule, either the most draining or least draining client?

Or maybe have very specific "phone consult" hours when you are available to chat about things other than just making an appointment?

It's crazy how these things seem suddenly out of control, isn't it?
 


Is it new or established clients who are calling or e-mailing & want to talk?
You could take a survey and ask your clients if they feel that the 15 minute consultation time before and after session is adequate. (Total of 30 min.) Thus if most feel that they need more time you could change your schedule to reflect this.
What seems to be the reason they call or e-mail? Is it to clarify something you said during a session? Do you need to give them a "handout" that they can refer to? Perhaps a brochure full of the answers to FAQ? Or have a FAQ page on a website that they can refer to.
I'm for anything that can "streamline" your day... making you available for the work you want to do! :D
 
Setting Time Boundaries...Need Help!

Leener said:
Hi everyone,

My healing practice is becoming busier and I've run into a problem I need help with.

The clients I have , or teach are wanting to talk A LOT before and after the session as well as by email or opn the phone. I realize this is a part of the session, and allow for 1/2 hour pre and post consultation time with a session.

But I'm getting people wanting to talk, emails and phone calls that are really beginning to drain my time not only for other clients, but for my personal life as well.

Suggestions on how to get this back into balance would be greatly appreciated. I'm usually very good with boundaries so I don't know how this snuck up on me. I suppose when I was not as busy, it was not so much an issue.

I completely understand your dilemma here Leener. I think the big issue that we as practitioners come across is that we are so giving of ourselves and this is true especially when we are as in touch with our clients as we can often get. The thing with boundaries is that they are difficult but my thought on this would be to defiantely do a question and answer brochure when the client initially comes in. I know for my practitioner at home, she sat with me for about 20 minutes before my session and about 15 or so after my first session because it was new. Being open with you clients regarding your time is good but, like you said, you need that time for you. I know that giving of ourselves is part of what we do but the boundaries with clients need to be respected by the clients in this situation as it is clear you know your emotional boundaries. Best of luck and Brightest Reiki Blessings.

holistichealer
 


Thank you Thank you for your responses!!

I do give new clients a "welcome pack" that explains what goes on, after session care, etc.

What they want to do is kind of have a counseling session it seems, pick my brain, answer "life, the Universe and everything" kind of questions, you know what I mean?

This is happening with the newer clients and established clients. Not all, but those who di it are really sucking the time out of my life.

A Reiki friend said that I need to charge for my time and yes, I agree, but how do I handle this now that I've already let this happen, is my dilemma. Wording is important. I don't want to alienate or lose people. The idea of a survey sounds great!

Anyone have suggestions on how to word it, and also perhaps something I can add to the brochure pack that can clarify these time boundaries?
 


Bumping for more responses..I need some biggie help here. :lol:
 


So I guess I want to know -- what are they wanting to chat about for so long? Maybe we can be more help if we know that. Is it directly related to your massage treatments and their somatic symptoms?
 


What they want to do is kind of have a counseling session it seems, pick my brain, answer "life, the Universe and everything" kind of questions, you know what I mean?

Depending on how the conversation is going, wouldn't this be out of your scope of practice? I'm not into energy work so I won't claim to know how things go with a session like that, but if they're bringing unrelated subjects into the discussion, maybe offer to refer them to a counselor, clergy, or other more appropriate practitioner? Try to stop the conversation as soon as it diverts from your scope of practice, and just say "you know, we've discussed these things before, but you seem to be looking for more than I can help you with - maybe there's someone else that could help answer your questions better..."

Hope that helps.
 


Thanks for your suggestions.

This is not happening with my massage clients, but with my Reiki clients.

They want to ask about energy work, spirituality, what I felt during the session, how they can balance their lives in the energetic sense at home, work, relationships, basically how energy healing works on them specifically, all things I am experienced in as I've been doing it for almost 20 years, but these seekers (and bless them for it!) are really cutting into the schedule and my personal time.
 


Maybe you can start offering self-care coaching sessions, and charge for that time. That way, when people call with these sorts of questions, you can say, "Why don't we schedule a self-care session? We can talk about your goals and I can teach you some home-energy techniques to help you meet those goals. The price is $____ for a _____ (length) session."
 


Can any of these things be discussed during the session? Particulary the stuff they want to know about what you are picking up during the session, etc. Then the conversation can be going on while the work is in progress and the end of the session can be a few minutes of 'homework.' Like "Spending twenty minutes a day in silent meditation will help you find out the answers that your energy body already knows. Just quiet yourself and listen to your own wisdom, it's there."
 


Hi everyone,

Just to update you, I have started with letting clients know if they need more time than the 1 1/2 alloted to them (1 hour on the table, 1/2 hour with consultation, I think that is more than fair amount of time given to them per session) , they have to book more "consultation time".

Today I had a client email me asking if she could book a session and also discuss how to use prayer and affirmations for her life, to help her make them up, etc.

I told her we could do that but we would need to book two sessions and be charged for 2 sessions. Needless to say, she backpedaled and said she would get the information over the internet.

Just goes to show you there are some people that will use your time and not value it as you do, or others do, if you don't set the boundaries.

I'm just trying now to come up with that "survey" to existing clients, but having trouble with the wording.
 


Thanks for the update, and congratulations on taking this step! :smt023
 


Thanks for keeping us up to date, I'm enjoying the information in this thread, especially your experience with a client not wanting to pay for your time.

This struck me:

They want to ask about energy work, spirituality, what I felt during the session, how they can balance their lives in the energetic sense at home, work, relationships, basically how energy healing works on them specifically, all things I am experienced in

In addition to individual coaching, perhaps you could offer some classes. That would make it more affordable for each individual, and well worth your time as well. Win-win!
 


Great advice, Josh!

Leener, you could hold some two hour workshops on energy work/spirituality etc. (with plenty of time for Q & A), advertise it to your clients and tell them to bring any friends who are interested. You could charge $15 or $20 per person (or whatever you are comfortable with) and thus be well-paid for your time.

I do this semi-regularly with Stress Workshops -- and it always brings in new clients, too.

Obviously you are very effective and have a great gift of communication or your clients wouldn't be asking for more and more knowledge in your area of expertise. I say go for it! As word spreads, you may actually find you have another source of income (which also brings in new clients) speaking for women's groups etc.

My 2 cents! Has worked well for me! :D

Sherry
 


Hi! :D

Thanks so much for the support. And I'm glad this thread is helping others! I think healers have special challenges when it comes to time and money boundaries.

Okay, to get even more complicated.(hehe) I actually am already doing workshops and lectures and have for about 11 years now. Most of my clients and income come from doing them.But I've recently stepped up "my game" so to speak and I'm getting busier.

What will happen is I'll get a client from my workshops and classes, and they will want to sit and talk , ask me questions. I am also getting emails from the class participants wanting to talk more about the subject, like a class after a class. Mentoring stuff.

I realize they are seeking and want to learn from me, but I need to se time limits and boundaries. I also have to start charging for the time they are taking. I have people wanting to talk for an hour before they get on the table for energy work! :shock:

Recently, as you can see from the above, I have asked them if they want to book an additional hour and they don't. They don't want to pay for the additional mentoring it seems.

I'm still sitting with how to word an email or something that states if people want this sort of time with me they have to book and pay for that additional time without losing them as clients.
 


Leener said:
Recently, as you can see from the above, I have asked them if they want to book an additional hour and they don't. They don't want to pay for the additional mentoring it seems.

I'm still sitting with how to word an email or something that states if people want this sort of time with me they have to book and pay for that additional time without losing them as clients.

Leener, do you charge the same for the mentoring as you do for the energy work? Would it be reasonable to charge less for the mentoring? I don't have an opinion one way or the other. I was just thinking if you wanted to expand your business to include mentoring, charging less might be a way to entice clients to sign up.

Once you settle on a fee schedule for the mentoring, I suggest mentioning this information at the end of future classes. New clients are probably more willing to pay for this service, rather than people who are used to getting that service from you for free.

As far as the wording on the email, here's a draft:

"Hello friends & clients. Recently, I've been blessed with an increase in business. One side effect of such a blessing is that my time & energy reserves are being pushed to their limits. This means I need to plan my days accordingly, to be sure I can be energized and fully present for every client. Although I enjoy our conversations before & after energywork appointments, I now need to limit such conversations to 10 minutes before & after appointments. If you have questions that require longer conversations, I'm now offering mentoring sessions at $____ for a 30 minute session & $_____ for an hour session. If you would like to add a mentoring session to your next energywork appointment, please let me know."
 


You so rock Bliss.

Thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou.

This is perfect, and I think your suggestion about the mentoring session being a bit less is right on.

Again, thank you.
 


I am also getting emails from the class participants wanting to talk more about the subject, like a class after a class. Mentoring stuff.

Hmm. Is it time to start training people as trainers? Maybe you've already done this. That seems to be the model I've seen most often. Then people who don't want to pay your fee are able to pay less to talk to someone trained by you, or take an "integration class" type thing a day or week after the main event.
 
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  28. vnycool:
    Mumbai
  29. Shangri-la Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’– MakeIt Monday ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– your ultimate destination for luxury Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakville. ๐ŸŒŽ๐ŸŒ9 stunning Girls from China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” 34D Suki, Cindy, Selena, Kelly, Amber, Busty Echo, JPN Yui, RMT Miya & ๐Ÿ†•Jessica โ€” ๐Ÿง˜โ€โ™€โœจTable Shower special on ๐Ÿ๐ŸŽˆ Hit up 647-695-6354๐Ÿค™ or text to ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169 โœจ160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, Richmond Hill ๐Ÿ’ฐLet the fun times roll, baby!๐Ÿ™Œ
  30. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center :Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Kelly ,New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Baby ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry , address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  31. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Vita ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  32. Sunrise Spa:
    ๐Ÿ˜˜ We have a wonderful Asian spa in downtown Toronto ๐Ÿ˜˜ 302 Adelaide St W, 2nd Floor ๐Ÿ˜˜ Today is Mika, Apple and Kitty ๐Ÿ˜˜ 416-916-7276
  33. #203MoMo&Beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 white skin Latin Spanish girl &Asian girl today /// Young curvy body Colombia girl in Tuesday
  34. Sparkling Spa:
    Sexy Korean Massage Girl Summer is working at Sparkling Spa with Service Queen Zoe today. Real pictures of Summer & Zoe๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏCall or text to book appointment ๐Ÿ“ฒ โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY
  35. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐Ÿ’„๐Ÿ˜ป Wonder spa [9421Jane st unit 127)Please โ˜Ž๏ธ4165000-800,4young girl working every day,๐Ÿ’„Amy is Vietnamese young sex girl,open maid,๐Ÿ’„Mimi is younge sexy girl beautiful face long leg,most of all she know how to make man happy,๐Ÿ’„Mina is36DCup smooth skin ,she can provide back walking nice body slide,get more experience soft to medium, must try๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐ŸŒบ
  36. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ LUCY, ASHA, NISHA, ANGEL, MEERA, DIYA, NUR, PAYAL PEARL, MIMI ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  37. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Rose๐ŸŒน - A sexy new addition to our lin
  38. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธYoyo๐ŸŒธCarly๐ŸŒธTiffany๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธTania Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  39. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธIvy๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธCassyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  40. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young new cute Lily with curve boys 25โ€™s and young slime super GFE 30โ€™s open mind, pretty Ella and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  41. AliceSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa, : AMY (12pm โ€“ 9pm) is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. LISA (12pm-9pm): is a Korean internet celebrity, young early 20โ€™s, milky white skin
  42. See You Health Center:
    Sasa Very Sexy Vietnamese friendly and milfy . body is amazing Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl 5โ€™ 2โ€, 100 lbs black Hairโ€จGFE, BBbj, DFK Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  43. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Candy She is a Vietnamese๏ผŒ Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Provides Amazing Service โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  44. New Oriental Health Centre:
    โค๏ธ Nayla & New Girl Kelly is here today๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  45. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  46. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Angela & Noor are here Today! ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  47. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Summer โค๏ธ has nice sexy body, and nice breasts. She can give very good massage and fun service. Very sexy, and so friendly. Beautiful girl with great massage skills and willing to give you a happy fun session multiple times if you
  48. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž This is the only official schedule for AMORE SPA: Monday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY & Tiny Spinner LALA CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. Tiny LALA is unbelievably good
  49. ASPA:
    ๐— ๐—ข๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: EMMA and Best Massage RACHEL. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable. RACHEL is slim and attractive
  50. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Ruby. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild
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