Sweet bb

[Mebad23]

Ok I know this is not a massage session. In light of how a certain amp has been over charging for what amounts to ,a fs likely limited massage, I am going to draw the line in the sand. Yesterday I had a very enjoyable session with a sweet 23 year old Asian princess vie sweetbb.net. 280.00
She was beautiful although perhaps not a seasoned sp she was a pure joy to be with. This joy was reasonable in $. And I left feeling that yes I will repeat . She provided 90% SOPAM. I will not reveal any more details here. If you are paying for pheasant under glass make sure it isn't a shit hawk in disguise. This girl was a dove that became a swan

 

[massagereviewer]

Just a first name please.

 

[Hatake]

I guess the line is actual massage sessions being priced the same as/close to a FS session? What's the going rate these days for a massage these days?

 

[Mebad23]

I guess the line is actual massage sessions being priced the same as/close to a FS session? What's the going rate these days for a massage these days?

A lot less than 400.00. The hourly room rate plus tip. Usually if you get to 220 240 260 you got you fill at the buffet.

 

[Qster]

Here is where I think a summary helps:

At a Micro like SBB, WB, PF etc., the going rate is 280 an hour for shower together (no waiting, both of you go into the shower immediately), bbbj, cfs, multiple positions, AND if you have time left after all that, some cuddling or light massage, then you shower alone while she cleans up the room with you out the door at that exact 60 min. mark; what we call SOPAM "Standard Operating Procedures at an Asian Micro". Also generally speaking the micro girls are the youngest, most attractive among all of the providers; which makes the 280 much easier to tolerate.

At an AMP, the asking prices are all over the place but after negotiation, it generally comes back to that 220-260 range which Mebad23 oulined above, you shower alone, you lie down on bed and wait, then wait some more, she comes in to give you a light rub, a cbj, cfs, then back to the shower you go. Unlike the micro girls, I found AMP girls don't even try to fill the hour, they want you out asap.

At a semi-legit, FS is not supposed to be available at any semi-legit, it is suppose to be a place for RMTs to provide strong massages and earn some extra cash at the same time. Girls like Joy or Linda/Irene really blurred the line between semi-legits and AMPs, I am surprised that the owner of Strathcona is not concerned about licensing issues, AMPs and Semi-legits are licensed differently. They ask $400 because there are people out there willing to pay those prices. To me, those ladies are definitely not worth it, if I want FS, the micros represent the best value.

 

[Wills_willie]

If you search on LL using 160 filtered on Asian you'll get a list of micros in the SW and Claireview. Prices are a mix between 160 and 200 for an hour.

 

[Sun&SandMan]

Here is where I think a summary helps:

At a Micro like SBB, WB, PF etc., the going rate is 280 an hour for shower together (no waiting, both of you go into the shower immediately), bbbj, cfs, multiple positions, AND if you have time left after all that, some cuddling or light massage, then you shower alone while she cleans up the room with you out the door at that exact 60 min. mark; what we call SOPAM "Standard Operating Procedures at an Asian Micro". Also generally speaking the micro girls are the youngest, most attractive among all of the providers; which makes the 280 much easier to tolerate.

At an AMP, the asking prices are all over the place but after negotiation, it generally comes back to that 220-260 range which Mebad23 oulined above, you shower alone, you lie down on bed and wait, then wait some more, she comes in to give you a light rub, a cbj, cfs, then back to the shower you go. Unlike the micro girls, I found AMP girls don't even try to fill the hour, they want you out asap.

At a semi-legit, FS is not supposed to be available at any semi-legit, it is suppose to be a place for RMTs to provide strong massages and earn some extra cash at the same time. Girls like Joy or Linda/Irene really blurred the line between semi-legits and AMPs, I am surprised that the owner of Strathcona is not concerned about licensing issues, AMPs and Semi-legits are licensed differently. They ask $400 because there are people out there willing to pay those prices. To me, those ladies are definitely not worth it, if I want FS, the micros represent the best value.

The other thing to expect at a micro is minimal furniture ..... cheep mattress on the floor hopefully with a new sheet.

 

[Qster]

The other thing to expect at a micro is minimal furniture ..... cheep mattress on the floor hopefully with a new sheet.

Not really, the well established micros are all fully furnished; the big 3 have been around a long time. I can't vouch for all locations, I only use the big 3s and all of their locatoins have basic furnishings (bed, night table, couch, chair etc.). Nothing fancy but the girls keep the places spotless, cleaner than most massage places.

 

[Mebad23]

I will vouch for the upkeep the big 3 as Qster called them. ( good one) he is right 100% no shit hawks there. The same as cloud 9, you will always get your value . I have no current desire to go elsewhere these places deliver 100% everytime

 

[Hatake]

A lot less than 400.00. The hourly room rate plus tip. Usually if you get to 220 240 260 you got you fill at the buffet.

Hmmm I see. From my own research, the hourly rate for FS is about the $300ish (though there has been a notice trend of FS providers upping their rates lately). It's definitely hard to argue going to get a massage when nearing the average rate, or even the price point of asian micro's or AMP's. My sample size is just one with a massage therapist who does advertise here (and other platforms) for a legit massage + extras: Massage + HE was about $160 for the hour if I remember correctly, which seems reasonable to me.

Here is where I think a summary helps:

At a Micro like SBB, WB, PF etc., the going rate is 280 an hour for shower together (no waiting, both of you go into the shower immediately), bbbj, cfs, multiple positions, AND if you have time left after all that, some cuddling or light massage, then you shower alone while she cleans up the room with you out the door at that exact 60 min. mark; what we call SOPAM "Standard Operating Procedures at an Asian Micro". Also generally speaking the micro girls are the youngest, most attractive among all of the providers; which makes the 280 much easier to tolerate.

At an AMP, the asking prices are all over the place but after negotiation, it generally comes back to that 220-260 range which Mebad23 oulined above, you shower alone, you lie down on bed and wait, then wait some more, she comes in to give you a light rub, a cbj, cfs, then back to the shower you go. Unlike the micro girls, I found AMP girls don't even try to fill the hour, they want you out asap.

At a semi-legit, FS is not supposed to be available at any semi-legit, it is suppose to be a place for RMTs to provide strong massages and earn some extra cash at the same time. Girls like Joy or Linda/Irene really blurred the line between semi-legits and AMPs, I am surprised that the owner of Strathcona is not concerned about licensing issues, AMPs and Semi-legits are licensed differently. They ask $400 because there are people out there willing to pay those prices. To me, those ladies are definitely not worth it, if I want FS, the micros represent the best value.

Thanks for the summary! Definitely helped me understand things here a bit better. I'm just surprised people are willing to spend that much money on just a massage when they could get better value getting a legit massage AND going to a micro/AMP. Trying to figure out what's actually good value in the category for massage is a bit trickier to find since rates are obviously not publicly available for a good reason.

 

[Qster]

Hmmm I see. From my own research, the hourly rate for FS is about the $300ish (though there has been a notice trend of FS providers upping their rates lately). It's definitely hard to argue going to get a massage when nearing the average rate, or even the price point of asian micro's or AMP's. My sample size is just one with a massage therapist who does advertise here (and other platforms) for a legit massage + extras: Massage + HE was about $160 for the hour if I remember correctly, which seems reasonable to me.


Thanks for the summary! Definitely helped me understand things here a bit better. I'm just surprised people are willing to spend that much money on just a massage when they could get better value getting a legit massage AND going to a micro/AMP. Trying to figure out what's actually good value in the category for massage is a bit trickier to find since rates are obviously not publicly available for a good reason.

The way I look at it is that the gold standard is 280/hr for BBBJ/FS with a 20 something visiting asian. If service is <BBBJ/FS, if age is >30, if time <60 minutes, we should be paying less. It is rare to see <30 providers at AMPs, it is rare to get BBBJ/FS at a semi-legit; thus it is rare for me to be able to justify paying more than $280 at an AMP or semi-legit.

I have be advocating this to massage lovers who also love FS, go get a legit massage somewhere for $80 then go get 30 min. FS experience at a micro, you still pay around $280 but you get a full 90 minutes of fun.

 

[sleeker]

Honestly I think FS is worth a little more at a semi vs. A micro. That is because massages are labor intensive. There's a "therapeutic" component and also a tease "sensual" component to it. In fact, lots of massage girls have gone down the full escort route because it's simply less work. Can't really compare the $ for FS at a semi vs. Micro - it's almost an apples and oranges. It kind of balances out because micro girls are attractive usually and beauty demands a premium

 

[Qster]

Honestly I think FS is worth a little more at a semi vs. A micro. That is because massages are labor intensive. There's a "therapeutic" component and also a tease "sensual" component to it. In fact, lots of massage girls have gone down the full escort route because it's simply less work. Can't really compare the $ for FS at a semi vs. Micro - it's almost an apples and oranges. It kind of balances out because micro girls are attractive usually and beauty demands a premium

Since FS does not exist at a semi, this is more or less just a theoretical discussion. There is nothing magical to the $240 number which many of us use, 30 min of solid massage for $40, then 30 min. for bbbj/fs at a high end micro (PF is my personal go to place right now) for $200. 60 minutes for a total of $240; if one lady does both, then it is also 240. Because the qualify of bbbj/fs is usually not as good by a semi-firl as opposed to a micro-girl, we are providing the semi-girl a premium already.

While I generally agree with Sleeker's statement, there is a limit to how much premium should be provided. Micro girls are generally young and attractive thus they get paid what they get paid. Some micro girls do give a decent massage after the main event to fill the hour. Semi girls are usually older and less attractive, unless they put in the effort to provide a therapeutic massage as well, they can't justify similar pricing. Also remember that there are micro girls, older and less attractive, who charges $160 for 30 min. of bbbj/FS. The local semi girls are usually of the older less attractive category. Using the $160 for bbbj/fs rate, we are only at the $200 mark. The going rate of 220-260 is pretty reasonable.

My own experiences only, at a semi, bbbj is rarely provided, teasing is at a minimal (remember everything must fit within the hour), the experience is "more therapeutic but less sexual" than a true micro experience.

I don't know where to start if we are talking about the $400 price which Joy and Linda (who I am not sure can be considered semi-girls) are asking.

 

[Hatake]

It's all about preferences and the perception of value at the end of the day. Some people really want just a release after a hour long massage, which is fine if that's what they are looking for. However there are alternatives that some people are more than happy to go for such as the previously mentioned legit massage elsewhere + @ a micro after/before: some people might find it a bit of a hassle to arrange to do those in 2 different places rather than just the one.

For $400 though, you definitely have a lot of room to play with, including going to another semi-legit place/girl at least several times depending on duration of stay.