Treatments that are not up to standard

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Hello All!
My resolution this year was to come clean and introduce myself (which I have done) so, this post makes me officially an ex-lurker
The first questions of many - be warned its a long one!

As a reflexologist how often do you get on the couch and have a treatment?
If you do, do you visit someone you know/dont know, do you tell them that you are a reflexologist and do you ever come away disappointed?The reason for the grilling is that I decided to treat myself over Xmas and had a full reflexology treatment and I came away very, very disappointed. I'm not having a go at anyone and wont reveal even which country it happened in

I didnt reveal my experience in reflexology etc as I didnt want to let the Reflexologist feel as if she was on the spot being graded or become nervous etc - I just wanted the standard treatment in order to relax.
What I got was somewhat different I had to remind her to wash her hands before starting my treatment, there was another person in the room laid on a couch post treatment - snoring!
Didnt ask me any allergy info & proceeded to use a Cologne?? to cleanse the feet pre-treatment.
Advised I had 'hammered' my liver over Xmas which was situated on the nail plate of my big toe (it must have moved) when I dont really drink.
Stuck all of her overgrown & sharp nails into my feet at some point.
Didnt follow a routine of any kind and staged a pretend psychic experience ever time she thought I was looking at her (had to close my eyes to retain laughter).
I paid & put the treatment down to experience - but, this would have put a lot of people off of reflexology as it was so dire
Now, the more I think about it, the more cross I get that someone could visit a relexologist wanting a 'real' treatment and get a fake who is obviously more interested in the ££'s (£30 for 45 mins) than providing a good treatment/service and this gives us good guys who have trained properly and know our stuff a really bad name and a wonderful treatment is belittled.

What does everyone think and does anyone else have a similar experience to share?

Thank you

ThreePeaks
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Phew, enough to put anyone off for life.[:'(]

Where did you find her and what qualification does she claim? Sounds as though she hasnt had any proper training at all. and to charge £30 for 45 minutes.

Just shows that you should probably ask for proof of qualifications really. I've got mine on permanent display.

I swap with girls I trained with and get a lovely treatment, as I hope they do too, no complaints so far and they come back for more, which is a vital testimony. I bet the person (wont call her a reflexologist) doesn't get people coming back.

Did you look for someone with a recognised qualification?

Better luck next time, dont give up, have alook on the therapist register on here to find someone. Also the NHS directory of complementary and alternative practitioners checks out proples qualifications and has a directory. (I'm on it, seems to help when talkinf to GP's and consultants)


Jan
 
hi threepeaks,

i keep meaning to go get some treatments from local therapists... just to see!! good for you for trying it. mind you, go on, gis a clue... it was not in uk?

i see you do thai foot so you would have known had you been getting the pointy stick treatment... sharp nails ref!

i think you have a very valid point and yes, many people *try* these treatments at spas etc and overseas, and i dont think they are necessarily getting the *best* they can. i used to work at a hotel (freelance) offering treatments... lol i considered the clients fortunate if they got me, as i believe i am good! BUT, in the time allowed, no way could one do a comprehensive consultation... i ended up mostly just asking if they had any allergies, had they had the treatment before and did they have any pre existing medical condition/ on meds. not exactly ideal.

when it comes to reflexology, it does need to be done by someone who knows what they doing, is willing to talk it through with client and answers questions (if required) and no BS!!!!

must do my own little survey....
 
Hi Jan

She was properly qualified with her certificates on the wall and they were genuine, I checked !

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I just dont understand where she went wrong except to jump on the £ train and forget the training!
 
Hi Rosie

I will only say that it was a specialist complementary clinic in the uk.[:mad:]
 
Not had a bad treatment yet with a qualified therapist, but then, since qualifying have only done swaps and have had no problems (Jan - I'll cover my ears, if you want !!) I have had a few bad massages though in local clinics and at health farms

I think as therapists, we are more critical. I know before I qualified, I didn't look too closely at the details, as long as the room was warm enough and I came out more relaxed, so the public are not always as aware as we are of bad practice.

I have had students practice on me (massage and reflexology) and find it harder to criticise them, as they are usually nervous, so try to be constructive and not give them too many criticisms. I do, however, have one client, whose personal hygeine has a lot to be desired and is training to be a reflexologist herself. When she practised on me, she sneezed in her hand before the treatment and then gave them a cursory rinse under the tap for ten seconds, without using soap. She'd been learning for a few months and this is basic stuff, but I did let it pass, although I know I wouldn't have if I had been paying her...

Lesley
 
That sounds like a terrible treatment [:'(] poor you!

It sounds as if I know more than her and have only been doing my course for 3 months
 
This is really gob-smacking.

I was going to say that perhaps this is example of why therapists should be very careful about who attends their ' friend and family ' workshops. There are at least two 'therapists' in my area that I know have learnt their 'craft' at short workshops and there is nothing in law to stop them. However, if this one had certificates on the wall then obviously not the case.
 
You give a lovely treatment, Lesley and massage.

I dont know how people manage with long nails, thats one of my bugbears. A fellow student when training had acrylics and was very loth to lose them, at our expense.

Jan
 
sounds horrendous and I get so angry when I hear this as it affects the rest of us hardworking caring therapists....tut tut...

T
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Jan, a student with acrylic nails shouldn't technically pass the qualification.

Lesley
 
Sounds like more of a spa or beauty treatment to me....

We make any therapist who wants to work with us give us a treatment and won't take them on unless they pass MY rigorous standards! I have got two great ones recently and they are getting repeat bookings which speaks for itself. I want our clients to know that they will get a great treatment whoever they have, despite their preference.

I know I give a good treatment because people tell me (sorry if that sounds very big-headed, but there you go and they always come back). They often comment on past experience and say things like 'you have a good firm touch and I like that' and they complain about treatments not being firm enough and lots of stroking going on.

My only advice is that you should not really have to pay for treatments. I get mine from friends and other therapists and I know who is good and don't bother now with others, though I have had to in the past. I will wait and grab what I can when I can. I've had the nails stuck in me too and they weren't acrylic, just rough and she was one of our therapists who thankfully has moved on. I was shocked really and just thought 'this isn't what I want our clients to experience.'

You need to network with other therapists, which is quite easy in this line of work as they are mostly friendly and keen to pal up. Start asking around, try them out and when they give you a good treatment offer a swop.

Good luck!
 
How often do I have a treatment? Well, I had one a fortnight ago. The reflexology treatment I had before that was the week before my exam, so that would be about two and a half years ago [&:] although I've had other treatments since, like acupuncture, shiatsu and cranial osteopathy. Still, very infrequent.

The treatment I had just before my exam was awful. The reflexologist had learnt a completely different sequence from me (probably not a good idea to have a treatment from a stranger right befre an exam) so it really threw me. I probably spent too much time and energy on concentrating on what she was doing rather than trying to relax, so my fault. But also, the room was so small (with no windows so no natural light) that the couch had to be put it on the diagonal. It was cramped and closed in and I left that treatment having breathing problems and a panic attack due to claustrophobia. Shan't be going there again.
 
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    Sunday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️Amy & Jenny. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Don’t miss out on her special skills! Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy.
  37. Annie Spa:
    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️(647) 891-9688☎️ ☎️(416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Vicky🥰A new arrival at our branch 🎉👯‍♀️Vicky is a very young CBC part time student working for tuition fees and books, this bright young sexy girl is willing to showcase her eagerness to please AND be pleased. Busty 34C boobs on a peti
  38. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Cindy, Jennifer, Mia & Sophia. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded.
  39. Dreaminn:
    SUNDAY at 💭𝗗𝗥𝗘𝗔𝗠 𝗜𝗡𝗡 𝗪𝗘𝗟𝗟𝗡𝗘𝗦𝗦 𝗦𝗣𝗔💭: EMILY, LULU & TINA. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟮𝟵-𝟮𝟵𝟴𝟯 ☎️ EMILY is a tall Chinese girl, 170Cms with nice natural C Cups and long brown hair. Emily is open minded and very friendly. LULU is a very popular & well known Chinese attendant, slim and beautiful with 34C Cups, long sexy legs, and incredible services.
  40. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young sweet student Summer and young fun Jessy open mind , pretty EFG Ella and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  41. Red Rose Spa:
    🌸 We have 5 hot brown girls today 🌸 PAYAL PEARL, MONIKA, NIMRAT, PAOLA, RAVEN, MALIYA, AAVI, KANIKA, KIRAN 🌸 2588 Birchmount 🌸 2 Invergordon 🌸 647-702-8800 🌸 Please visit for a great erotic massage
  42. Pink Flower Spa:
    ✰ 416.299.5515 ✰ 3300 McNicoll Ave, Unit #A8, Scarborough ✰🇱🇧🇱🇧 A talented Girl from Lebanon is joining our team bringing with her a unique set of skillsand a fresh perspective....🇻🇳🇻🇳 Selena (New) Vietnamese just 19Yrs, young & curvy, pretty...🇹🇼🇻🇳Ruby Taiwanese | Vietnamese, medium build and shapely, pretty...🇨🇳🇻🇳Kelly (New) is Chinese Vietnamese, standing tall with captivating beauty and a radiant complexion....✰ PINK FLOWER SPA ✰ 416.299.5515 ✰ 3300 McNicoll Ave, Unit #A8
  43. Flowers Spa:
    ✰ BLUEXADO SPA ✰ 416.357.9797 ✰ 1102 Centre St, Unit #6, Thornhill Vaughan 🇻🇳🇻🇳 Anna (New) from HÀNỘI Vietnam beautiful, white skin, big booty...Great Service...🇨🇳🇻🇳 Jessie | Jullie (New) 19Yrs Chinese | Vietnamese, young and pretty...Great Service+...🇭🇰🇭🇰 Sherry | Cici (New) 22Yrs HongKong beautiful, petite, sensitive chest, pretty face...Service Queen...✰ BLUEXADO SPA ✰ 416.357.9797 ✰ 1102 Centre St, Unit #6, Thornhill Vaughan
  44. Lily Spa:
    ❤️ KAJAL, NINA and KK are here today for your massage needs ❤️ Lily Spa ❤️ 2190 McNicoll ❤️ Scarborough ❤️ M1V 5M2 ❤️ (647) 531-8288 ❤️
  45. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom spa ♨️♨️♨️ table shower body scrub 👍👍👍We have 3 beautiful young girls working today, young and lovely new girl Suki and Tiffany Specialising in table shower body scrub massages and offering deep massages Cici🤗🤗🤗🤗5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke.Please call ☎️416-817-3366 to book and Walk in the back door there is plenty of parking available
  46. Endless Joy Spa:
    ✨✨✨✨✨[GRAND OPENING]✨✨✨✨✨ 💞Endless Joy Spa💞 🎇 (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565🎇10am-2am, Young Slim Sexy Chinese Emma, Young Curvy Sexy Latina Karen, Young Slim Thai Janice, Young Sexy CBC Rachel. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  47. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-06Today we have 5 girls on Saturday: Jennifer - CBC girl with large breasts and a nice booty to compliment her fun services Vicky - cute spinner with a slim frame and services Sandy -... 💋💋new girl Linda💋💋
  48. KSpa:
    SATURDAY at 𝐊 𝐒𝐏𝐀: CICI, HELEN, YOYO & CINDY. Unit B6-4227 Sheppard Ave East Scarborough, ON (Just East of Midland Ave) ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟵𝟮-𝟳𝟱𝟲𝟴 ☎️ CICI is a slim 110 Lbs & pretty 23 years “Must Try” honey, with all menus available. HELEN stands 5’3” & weighs 110 Lbs, with nice 34D pillows to comfort you. YOYO is JAPANESE, 21 Yrs, 5’2” & 115 Lbs, with a nice big ass & great service.
  49. Jenny’s Spa:
    🎉🍒JENNY’S SPA🎉🍒 ✅5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST✅ 👌ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4👌 ☎️(647-893-5196)☎️Call or Text ☎️(437-888-3759)☎️Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅GRAND OPENING💯NEW GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥EXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNY’S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥TWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥 💯REAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS💯 🔥TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: Apple😘 - Brand new girl from Taiwan just ar
  50. Sparkling Spa:
    ⚡🌟SPARKLING SPA⚡🌟 ✅50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8✅ 👌Markham, ON L3R 8X4👌 ☎️(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone☎️ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥SUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥SEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Today’s Schedule is…🔥 Foxy -🔥Your new addiction at Sparkling Spa! A tall 5’7” sexy Korean girl with a wild ro
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