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Your argument would hold more weight if Trump himself didnโ€™t also act like Altaguetta, Jimmyd, and team where he picks up nonsense and conspiracies and spreads it around himself. Any other person in his position would get his cabinet to โ€œlook into itโ€ before making any comment that would make him look foolish. Although, with his cabinet that is not saying much. I think those media outlets took a reflex reaction and said โ€œoh shit, here he goes again running his mouth off about something new with no proofโ€ and hit the mute button. He did lie about 20 times a day.


Because it does beg the question, if he already had this information for about a year why all of a sudden is it coming out now in the final days of the election campaign if it was so damning. Why didnโ€™t he have it when Biden and Sanders were still going head to head. Trump against a progressive would have been a Republican win for sure.

I know you must see the amusing side of appealing to reports from the very media that I'm accusing of misbehaviour.

I have to completely disagree with your comment about the relevancy of Trump's behaviour to my argument. The argument I'm making is completely unaffected by Trump's character. It's a thankless task to defend Trump, and for the millionth time I feel like I've got to repeat that I believe it would have been much better for everyone if he'd just stayed on The Apprentice--but that's all irrelevant to the point at issue. He could've lied ten times more than he did and it still would not be an explanation or excuse for the media's actions. Trump was a divisive figure, but the media magnified the effect by attempting to gaslight millions of people for his four years in office. The laptop story might have been the most extreme example we were treated to, but it is only one of many.

If we cannot even agree that the media's behaviour with respect to this laptop story was wrong, then we are simply not watching the same movie here. I still believe in the old maxim of disagreeing with an idea, but defending the right of an opponent to proclaim it. The fact that today that sounds as naรฏve as it does is a testament to how far we've fallen.
 
I know you must see the amusing side of appealing to reports from the very media that I'm accusing of misbehaviour.

I have to completely disagree with your comment about the relevancy of Trump's behaviour to my argument. The argument I'm making is completely unaffected by Trump's character. It's a thankless task to defend Trump, and for the millionth time I feel like I've got to repeat that I believe it would have been much better for everyone if he'd just stayed on The Apprentice--but that's all irrelevant to the point at issue. He could've lied ten times more than he did and it still would not be an explanation or excuse for the media's actions. Trump was a divisive figure, but the media magnified the effect by attempting to gaslight millions of people for his four years in office. The laptop story might have been the most extreme example we were treated to, but it is only one of many.

If we cannot even agree that the media's behaviour with respect to this laptop story was wrong, then we are simply not watching the same movie here. I still believe in the old maxim of disagreeing with an idea, but defending the right of an opponent to proclaim it. The fact that today that sounds as naรฏve as it does is a testament to how far we've fallen.
We disagree. I believe that if there was actually a story, which you apparently believe there is one but I do not since i believe a real story would have come out long before October 2020 as the laptop was in possession of the DOJ since 2019.

What I believe is the propaganda has changed over the last several generations. In days of past (or some communist countries today) a propaganda department of the government would control the messaging. But that drove suspicion from the population. Now, with social media, propaganda is much more covert and is all about flooding the airways with programmed nonsense and by having other people retweet it or share it on Facebook so that it takes a life of itโ€™s own because people believe that if other people are sharing it then it has legitimacy. But a lot of that is nonsense and there are too many dumb people out there that will blindly agree with it and not even question if it makes sense. I recall months ago seeing a video of a former Alex Jones employee (donโ€™t recall the name) who acknowledged that even Alex doesnโ€™t believe the bullshit heโ€™s peddling but it makes him rich so he keeps doing it.

What I believe is that people saw the polls and Biden was looking like a win then that propaganda machine started with the laptop story to stir up shit to try to salvage the election. Barr or other Trump advisors probably reviewed it all and said there was nothing there a long time ago but Trump being himself started spreading it further and Rudy followed suit.

The laptop story was really first and foremost about the Ukrainian situation. It later took a life of itโ€™s own with the accusations of drugs and other stuff. But again, the DOJ had the laptop since 2019. If there was a real story it could have come out way back then and sabotaged Bidenโ€™s run against Sanders.

Iโ€™m not buying any media coverup because I believe it was just that social media propaganda engine fueled by Trump and Rudy making up shit and the media spotted that is was really a nothing burger and said they wonโ€™t be a party to it. All media platforms have editors in charge that decide what is or is not newsworthy and that has been that way since the printing press was invented. Them doing their jobs has not been called out as a grand conspiracy before.
 
I mentioned that you cannot prove what is in someoneโ€™s mind to prove pedophilia unless you find proof like being in possession of child pornography as supporting evidence. That would be found on a computer. Like a laptop which the other idiot brought up. Learn to connect the dots moron.

Nah, I donโ€™t keep up with your other conversations.


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The laptop story was really first and foremost about the Ukrainian situation. It later took a life of itโ€™s own with the accusations of drugs and other stuff. But again, the DOJ had the laptop since 2019. If there was a real story it could have come out way back then and sabotaged Bidenโ€™s run against Sanders.

Iโ€™m not buying any media coverup because I believe it was just that social media propaganda engine fueled by Trump and Rudy making up shit and the media spotted that is was really a nothing burger and said they wonโ€™t be a party to it. All media platforms have editors in charge that decide what is or is not newsworthy and that has been that way since the printing press was invented. Them doing their jobs has not been called out as a grand conspiracy before.

That makes sense if you're a 12-year-old kid but that's not how the world works right now.
 
That makes sense if you're a 12-year-old kid but that's not how the world works right now.
Really. Why donโ€™t you explain to the community how the โ€œworldโ€ works right now.
 
I have said before that the claimed efficiency was a gross exaggeration.
 
So far, you haven't paid attention at all.

You're too childish.
So, in otherwords, you cannot explain it and now you are running and hiding. We all understand you very well. So either man up and explain it or shut up.
 
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    Thursday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: CINDY, JENNY & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž CINDY is a slim & pretty lady with long dark hair and a pleasing personality. JENNY is slim, attractive, with a tight frame and service with a smile. When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one.
  33. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ ELENA and SUSU are here today for your XXX massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  34. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia can provide top notch services
  35. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: CHERRY, LUCY & CINDY. CHERRY is versatile and responsive. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  36. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUNA, SARA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. SARA is a beautiful Thai lady with C Cups, 160 Cms and 50 Kgs, with a full set of services to delight you. TIFFANY is amazing slim
  37. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young sweet Taiwanese student Victoria 25โ€™s slime and young fun Ivy 36DD with big buttocks open mind, young cute sexy Tina with curve body open mind and pretty GFE Ella are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  38. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga Kiki and Suki work
  39. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธValentina๐ŸŒธKellyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  40. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Sexy girl Mia big boobs 36DD ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜Hot and sexy body, super body slide, very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the back door with plenty of parking spaces
  41. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Thursday March 13, 2025, our attendants will be Ada ๐Ÿค—, Cici ๐Ÿ˜˜, Mia ๐Ÿ˜, Vicky ๐Ÿ”ฅ and Sophie ๐Ÿฅฐ Have a good evening! Call 905-479-6668 to book!
  42. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Slim Petite Chinese Vivi & Young Slim Sexy Chinese Faye
  43. Shangri-la Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–WooHoo Wed๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” ๐Ÿ†•Jenny, Cindy, Coco, Echo, Amber, JPN Yui, Tina, Akino, Lucy & Dorisโ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  44. Suko 5Girls:
    Suko Spa schdule today on Wednesday is with 7 lovely๐Ÿ’“ladies๐Ÿ’“Gigi (new), Kim (new), Crystal, Jojo, Lucky, Michelle and Sunny ๐Ÿ›ฃ 420 ValleymedeDr, Richmond Hill, same plaza McDonalds ๐Ÿ“žโ˜Ž 905-597-8880 โ˜Ž
  45. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Slim Petite Chinese Vivi & Young Slim Sexy Chinese Faye
  46. Alibi Massage and Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’Ž NOW AT ALIBI โ€“ INDULGE IN THE ULTIMATE ESCAPE ๐Ÿ’Ž ๐Ÿ”ฅ A VIP experience like no other ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ƒ Sensual, stunning, and ready to take you beyond relaxation ๐Ÿ’‹ โœจ Where your fantasies meet our touchโ€ฆ
  47. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Coco๐Ÿ˜˜- A young cute blonde Asian girl mak
  48. wonderspa:
    . ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Tuesday Wednesday Thursday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Joey natural c cup,very good looking nice body slide๐Ÿ˜ป ๐ŸŽlong hair Lucy come back,very good strong to relax oil massage, Relieve pain and remove stress,more experience ๐ŸŽnew girl Cici beautiful face amazing massage sensuality touch,give you warm and comfortable time๐Ÿ”ฅmust try๐Ÿ˜˜
  49. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Feifei๐Ÿ˜˜Our new Taiwanese beauty Feifei specializes in creating an intimate and deeply relaxing massage experience tailored to your desires. Her soft, skilled hands glide effortlessly, easing tension and awakening your
  50. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธTaniaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
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