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[altaguetta]

If ifs and buts were candies and nuts, we’d be having a party.

No, Don jr. wouldn’t have been attacked that way because Joe Biden’s team wouldn’t stoop so low as to hire a unscrupulous lawyer being manipulated by Russians to make up tabloid stories about him. Biden has more class than that.

Now, go back to your basement little man.

Dude, you're a pathetic clown!

 

[altaguetta]

Wow! Did you even read that article dipshit?

Let me summarize so everyone can see all the holes:

• NY Times article about a NY Post
• Trump and allies pushed corruption claims to hurt Biden’s campaign
• Rudy gave information to the NY Post
• The article suggested Joe Biden used his foreign policy influence to give Hunter Biden a job
• The NY Post writer of the article wouldn’t even attach his name to the article because of concerns of it’s credibility (wow, big red flag there, or as I’ve been calling it, “bullshit”)
• Laptop was dropped off in April 2019
• The laptop repair shop owner, who is legally blind, couldn’t confirm if Hunter Biden left the laptop or not
• The repair shop guy would not reveal the specifics other than call what he saw as being “alarming” and “disturbing”. So that could be anything but nobody knows what that is.
• The repair shop owner copied the contents and sent to the FBI
• December 2019 the FBI seized the laptop with a subpoena. Wow, 8 moths later and the laptop was never picked up. Hmm, that’s kinda funny.
• The shop owner wondered why the contents weren’t used during Trump’s impeachment hearing and wondered if it was being buried. Now, if there was damming information against Biden, why the concern about Trump’s impeachment? Was it more damming to Trump? Hmm…
• The shop owner gave a copy to Rudy’s lawyer and Rudy gave copies to tabloids (read non-credible news outlets) and Steven Bannon had a role.
• Rudy pushed the story to the tabloids.
• The FBI reviewed the content and told Congress and Senator Ron Johnson no Russian disinformation was on the laptop
• They intelligence offices warned the White House that Russia (a bad state actor as I call them) was using Rudy to spread disinformation to harm the Biden campaign. Rudy was a “useful idiot” for the Russians.
• The article ends of with the “what we don’t know” which they said was “a lot”. But is also says, the shop owner voted for Trump in 2016 (ok, whatever. Maybe it means something, maybe it doesn’t) and that Trump loyalists orchestrated a plan to make the contents public just before the election. That’s the “suspicious” comment I made earlier.

Let’s summarize: Russia was using Rudy according to intelligence officials and they told the White House (Trump). Rudy is not employed in any government capacity, he’s Trump’s personal lawyer. Rudy was the source of the information to NY Post article and even the article writer wouldn’t put his name to it because he didn’t find it credible. Rudy and Bannon then went to the tabloids (by definition tabloids don’t have any credibility) in an orchestrated pre-planned maneuver just immediately before the election. And, nobody can confirm if Hunter Biden dropped off a laptop for repair. All we know is that it never got picked up by the guy that dropped it off.

Yet, despite all this guys like you think the laptop is a big fucking deal.

The New York Times article has the facts. No holes you idiot.


[*]NY Times article about a NY Post
No, moron

[*]The NY Post writer of the article wouldn’t even attach his name to the article because of concerns of it’s credibility (wow, big red flag there, or as I’ve been calling it, “bullshit”)
Who cares, moron. The New York Times is bullshit too???

 

[Hornet]

[*]NY Times article about a NY Post
No, moron

[*]The NY Post writer of the article wouldn’t even attach his name to the article because of concerns of it’s credibility (wow, big red flag there, or as I’ve been calling it, “bullshit”)
Who cares, moron. The New York Times is bullshit too???

It was an article that you attached and referenced. Maybe next time you should get your mommy to read it and explain it to you.

 

[altaguetta]

It was an article that you attached and referenced. Maybe next time you should get your mommy to read it and explain it to you.

I don't need your idiotic explanation, idiot.


"even the article writer wouldn’t put his name to it because he didn’t find it credible. "

But the NY Post published it. But the NY Post is a tabloid. So that means it's just lies. But everyone took it seriously. Except you, of course.

You have a brain of a 12-year-old.


"The laptop repair shop owner, who is legally blind, couldn’t confirm if Hunter Biden left the laptop or not"

Whose laptop was it??? Not "who dropped it off" is the right question.

 

[Hornet]

I don't need your idiotic explanation, idiot.

By definition, any explanation given in a manner you could understand is an “idiotic explanation” (meant for an idiot).

 

[jimmyd]

If ifs and buts were candies and nuts, we’d be having a party.

No, Don jr. wouldn’t have been attacked that way because Joe Biden’s team wouldn’t stoop so low as to hire a unscrupulous lawyer being manipulated by Russians to make up tabloid stories about him. Biden has more class than that.

Now, go back to your basement little man.

Exactly the answer I was looking for! I love that you think you’re neutral, but you only dispute that with the more you write. You are truly a moron if you believe Biden wouldn’t “hire an unscrupulous lawyer”.

Biden doesn’t know where he is, but will say whatever he has to. In a campaign, Biden told an audience which included hundreds of African Americans that Republican economic policies would "put y'all back in chains."

You’re intellectually dishonest and disingenuous, bro. And you can’t even hide it.

Social media companies have active accounts by people like Ayatollah Khomeini, so don’t talk about TOS. They’re acting as publishers and should be treated as such, or change the way they treat users.

I love the basement trope btw. Thanks, it reminds me how retarded you are.


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[Hornet]

Exactly the answer I was looking for! I love that you think you’re neutral, but you only dispute that with the more you write. You are truly a moron if you believe Biden wouldn’t “hire an unscrupulous lawyer”.

Biden doesn’t know where he is, but will say whatever he has to. In a campaign, Biden told an audience which included hundreds of African Americans that Republican economic policies would "put y'all back in chains."

You’re intellectually dishonest and disingenuous, bro. And you can’t even hide it.

Social media companies have active accounts by people like Ayatollah Khomeini, so don’t talk about TOS. They’re acting as publishers and should be treated as such, or change the way they treat users.

I love the basement trope btw. Thanks, it reminds me how retarded you are.


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I said “unscrupulous lawyer being manipulated by Russians” dumbass. If you are going to quote me do it right moron.

The real Ayatollah Khomeini died in 1989 (before Facebook). Anyway, what the fuck does that have to do with anything other than to distract.

 

[altaguetta]

I said “unscrupulous lawyer being manipulated by Russians” dumbass. If you are going to quote me do it right moron.

Russians? Where is the proof???

 

[Hornet]

Russians? Where is the proof???

It was in the article you shared dipshit. Go get mommy to reread it to you.

 

[altaguetta]

It's time for another shot!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1413258160559857668

Not enough people died after the second shot...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1413296314960515072

 

[altaguetta]

It was in the article you shared dipshit. Go get mommy to reread it to you.

You lost your mind dude

 

[Hornet]

You lost your mind dude

If you can’t even read the links you post to support your position then you should never post anything.

 

[sy barite]

When I say bad state actors I was referring to the intelligence community’s consensus of how Russia was using Facebook and so forth to swing the 2016 election. That is why I used “for example”. The US intelligence community has testified in congress that did and that they are still at it. I don’t know what is on Hunters laptop but those with the skills to find out had it a full year earlier. If there was a story they had plenty of time to uncover it and report it. I’ve said that repeatedly now. But the timing of Trump and team hyping it up just weeks before the vote is very suspicious.

Facebook and Twitter are service providers. They have every right to remove content that violates their policies on what is acceptable because anyone who signed up agreed to their Terms & Conditions. That is that little “I accept” box upon registration that I talked about months ago in a separate thread. Now, Trump just filed a lawsuit against them for banning him so the courts will ultimately decide the final position on whether they have the right to do so. I’m merely taking the position that they do have that right.

With the dissolution of the Fairness Doctrine (something the right wanted and doesn’t want to reintroduce btw), each end of the political spectrum can choose what they want to publish or not publish. They no longer have to be balanced which is what the Fairness Doctrine required (every side must be presented). I see the non-Fox news outlets of the US exercising their right all the time. Breitbart, Info Wars etc. could not exist if the Fairness Doctrine was still in place. I think the Fairness doctrine should be put back and each outlet needs to be more balanced in their reporting. But this was thrown away long ago and polarization has taken root as a result and here we are today. Without that Fairness Doctrine, where each side has their freedoms to publish or not publish what they want then no, on this playing field, I see no malfeasance at all. Malfeasance is a wrong doing but I’m merely highlighting the current playing field and the current playing field says anything goes. So, if anything goes, there can be no wrongdoing unless harm was created and a lawsuit follows. If harm was done, why didn’t Trump and arudy sue the media outlets then claiming they cost him the election for not running the Hunter laptop story? They were suing everyone about the election results, why not the media then and there? You or I can hate the game but still recognize the rules of the game we have today. It is merely the product of removing the Fairness Doctrine. One cannot have it both ways where one side can choose to give opinions and publish anything they want and then complain that the other side is not allowed the same freedoms which in this case means it is their choice to not publish the same stories the other side is pushing. Bad actors or good actors, media are no longer required to persue any story at all. And yes, I consider Info Wars and similar outlets and personalities to be bad actors. I do so because their defences against lawsuits are often “no reasonable person would believe what I was stating” while at the same time they know people are indeed lapping it up and by doing so they make millions of those rubes. Good actors wouldn’t push bullshit to begin with and it’s that simple. But, left or right, each side only has to pick and chose to publish the ones they want and that is their right, like it or not.

Now, if you believe those media outlets don’t have the right to pick and choose what to report on, supposedly in the noble pursuit of the “truth”, then what is the standard for Newsmax, Info Wars, etc.? Are they not also supposed to report the “truth”? What recourse is there against them if they report lies? Because unless harm was done and a libel/slander lawsuit brought, such as in the voting machine suit, I don’t see any. And without any, they are free and clear to push whatever bullshit they want which I’ll say it again, whenever they find themselves on the receiving end of a lawsuit, they use as their defence that they peddle bullshit and no one could reasonably believe that bullshit so the case should be dropped. That is a disgusting defence in my mind and is like saying I took advantage of someone and stole their money but I’m not guilty because the victim should have spotted me doing it before I did it or while I was doing it.

Your point about the Fairness Doctrine is valid and I agree that it's absence has a lot to do with the situation we find ourselves in.

I wont continue to harp on the same points I've repeatedly made, since you don't seem inclined to address them, but suffice to say that I maintain the lopsided media landscape is not a good thing for the country, or the western world for that matter. I don't want to put words in your mouth, but you seem to believe all of the worst lying is on one side--the right. I see it as about even, but since one side is far more dominant than the other, those lies are doing more damage. In my humble opinion.

 

[altaguetta]

If you can’t even read the links you post to support your position then you should never post anything.

I can read, dude and I know what's real and what's crap. Trump was warned that Guiliani is used by the Russians to spread "disinformation". What a joke! How would disinformation help Trump? The FBI and CIA is worst group of people in the world. "They were warning Trump".

This topic is just too much for you to comprehend.

 

[Hornet]

How would disinformation help Trump?

False information about Biden would hurt his campaign. The Election was Trump vs. Biden. Hurting Biden thereby helps Trump in an election.

God you are just so fucking stupid if you can’t see that simple equation.

 

[Boston Man Chowder]

Hey admin. I think it's time for this thread to be put out of its misery. As much as I respect every guy debating on this page regardless of their ideology, what started out as innocent question about the vaccine has turned into yet another Trump debate and anti-vax campaign. Please euthanize this thread. Thank you sir!

 

[jimmyd]

I said “unscrupulous lawyer being manipulated by Russians” dumbass. If you are going to quote me do it right moron.

The real Ayatollah Khomeini died in 1989 (before Facebook). Anyway, what the fuck does that have to do with anything other than to distract.

Are you saying Biden would hire an “unscrupulous lawyer”, but not one “being manipulated by Russians”? Or would he differentiate and hire a scrupulous “lawyer being manipulated by Russians”? When you start playing with words, it really shows you’ve got nothing.

So, Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei is a fake? We should let the Iranians know. He regularly tweets comments that even CNN thinks cross the line, and yet he still has his account. So your Terms of Service argument is bullshit.




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[Hornet]

Are you saying Biden would hire an “unscrupulous lawyer”, but not one “being manipulated by Russians”? Or would he differentiate and hire a scrupulous “lawyer being manipulated by Russians”? When you start playing with words, it really shows you’ve got nothing.

So, Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei is a fake? We should let the Iranians know. He regularly tweets comments that even CNN thinks cross the line, and yet he still has his account. So your Terms of Service argument is bullshit.

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I’m saying, neither would he hire an unscrupulous lawyer, nor would he ever hire one being manipulated by Russians.

He’s dead

Ruhollah Khomeini - Wikipedia

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[gcoogieben]

Hey admin. I think it's time for this thread to be put out of its misery. As much as I respect every guy debating on this page regardless of their ideology, what started out as innocent question about the vaccine has turned into yet another Trump debate and anti-vax campaign. Please euthanize this thread. Thank you sir!

@admin please move this to chit chat please.

 

[stripfan]

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