Chat Toronto Girlfriends asking for ID now?

Flatulent Fox · Sep 1, 2021

They deleted most of posts there so I'll just repeat myself here. This isn't the first time they stole the deposit from a member there. One guy asked to book for HH, they took his deposit, then said all the girls have a 1h minimum. Another guy booked using a fake name (like many clients), sent the deposit which had his real name, they took the deposit, then blocked him because of the mismatch, which they would have known about before accepting the transfer. They're scumbags.

xtc27 · Sep 1, 2021

SDreams said:
Indies are cheaper and no ID? I guess it depends on which ones - especially if we’re taking out the LL scams. The ones that did not ask for ID (one was just a text thank god and the other was just a phone call first) charged the same prices more or less as agencies. The other indies I see on that board can range from the same price to higher AND have even MORE invasive checks. The email to work was from an indie - I’ve also seen selfie, government ID, EMT, references from 1-2 indie providers in the last 6 months.

Which hidden gem indies you hiding from us, xtc?

Cmon man, no secrets…
:lol

Sweet Alice, Catherine Tog, Asian Nicole, Daisy,Yukino, East York Melissa… etc…

Dozens more…

Deleted member 92532 · Sep 1, 2021

xtc27 said:
Cmon man, no secrets…

Sweet Alice, Catherine Tog, Asian Nicole, Daisy,Yukino, East York Melissa… etc…

Dozens more…

Seen two of these relatively recently. They’re standard rates except for Melissa, I believe who is less? I’ll just say if you want to avoid ID and EMT they’re fine but NMCOT.

BIGCORN · Sep 1, 2021

guy from tgf is a complete clown confirmed….imagine if I didn’t put a password on the deposit lol. Dude played himself by telling me no when I asked him to return the money. Instead he decided to damage the reputation of his agency for 70$ which he couldn’t even get in the end LOL

imagine being that money hungry and scummy

sugar3d · Sep 1, 2021

1. The red board is a business. If I’m not mistaken they generate at least 6 figures annually . If anyone did something to possibly hurt your income you’d fight back too.

2. The red board isn’t quite a shill…. but you do have to take reviews with a grain of salt.

3. Yes a paying advertiser can have a NR policy or get reviews removed.

4. God damn it. Never send an EFT deposit to anyone in this industry just don’t do it. One it’s connected to your personal email and bank account. Two there are ZERO purchase protections. Once they have the money it’s theirs and they do not have to ever delivery.

5. Never ever, ever. LISTEN to me never!!! send copies of your iD to anyone in this industry. The short term gain (sex) is not worth the long term potential risk to you identify.

Number 5 is pretty much the reason I’m out of the SP scene.

xtc27 · Sep 2, 2021

SDreams said:
Seen two of these relatively recently. They’re standard rates except for Melissa, I believe who is less? I’ll just say if you want to avoid ID and EMT they’re fine but NMCOT.

Lotsa indies out there… these = famous ones… also SA & CT allot less $$$…

Anyway, TGF = main culprit … other agencies aren’t doing this :no

imthedude · Sep 2, 2021

There's non-invasive screening and deposit methods that SPs are adopting but it's a dice roll. Would be nice to have something like cashapp here to help with that...short of the legalization model in NZ/Oz with legal brothels.

Deleted member 64273 · Sep 2, 2021

TGF has always had sketchy business practices. I remember SPs used to tell me how the owner demanded free sex as part of the "interview" and anytime he wanted for himself and his friends.

Need for ID aside, they really should have asked for that BEFORE the deposit. At the same time, anyone asking me for a non-refundable deposit will see my back really fast. I fell for that once on Kijiji and never again. (wasn't hobby related...was trying to find a puppy in all the wrong places)

As for red board, congrats on getting banned. What a waste of space!

Deleted member 92532 · Sep 2, 2021

LazyBoy said:
I fell for that once on Kijiji and never again. (wasn't hobby related...was trying to find a puppy in all the wrong places)

You should post a review. Pics? Acronyms offered?

xtc27 · Sep 2, 2021

LazyBoy said:
TGF has always had sketchy business practices. I remember SPs used to tell me how the owner demanded free sex as part of the "interview" and anytime he wanted for himself and his friends.

Need for ID aside, they really should have asked for that BEFORE the deposit. At the same time, anyone asking me for a non-refundable deposit will see my back really fast. I fell for that once on Kijiji and never again. (wasn't hobby related...was trying to find a puppy in all the wrong places)

As for red board, congrats on getting banned. What a waste of space!

… since they have no access 2 offenders lists, totally doubt any prescreening happening… anyway, a dude threatening a girl gonna b visible on hotel & condo cameras… as that cop

in Barrie found out…

… if u allow TGF 2 have yer ID… well, the L word comes 2 mind… :ice

… excep ofc I’ve listened 2 the lil head 2 & done stupid stuff…

When my bank or dentist wants my ID:

I know why
I benefit

… but an agency? Fuckoff. We can conduct a gd biz deal without sharing that detail…

U no what TGF could do if u posted a bad review…? They could OUT u. o_O

xtc27 · Sep 2, 2021

LazyBoy said:
“… fell for that once on Kijiji and never again. (wasn't hobby related...was trying to find a puppy in all the wrong places)…”!

… trying 2 find a puppy… sounds gd! Gonna use that one…

Accountant: “Hey? What’s this on the VISA, Barbiehouse69?”

“Oh, I was trying 2 buy a puppy on Kijiji”

“ Can I write that off as biz expense?”’

“Guard dog, sure…”. :lol

BIGCORN · Sep 2, 2021

LazyBoy said:
TGF has always had sketchy business practices. I remember SPs used to tell me how the owner demanded free sex as part of the "interview" and anytime he wanted for himself and his friends.

Need for ID aside, they really should have asked for that BEFORE the deposit. At the same time, anyone asking me for a non-refundable deposit will see my back really fast. I fell for that once on Kijiji and never again. (wasn't hobby related...was trying to find a puppy in all the wrong places)

As for red board, congrats on getting banned. What a waste of space!

live and learn man....I just want to raise awareness so ppl can learn from my mistakes

imthedude · Sep 2, 2021

LazyBoy said:
TGF has always had sketchy business practices. I remember SPs used to tell me how the owner demanded free sex as part of the "interview" and anytime he wanted for himself and his friends.

Yep; I don't buy for a second that this is about the safety of his workers.

krayjee · Sep 3, 2021

krayjee said:
LOL... Red board is a joke. I got banned so many times for small things. I got banned for posting I got FS at a massage parlor. I got banned for attacking nasty agency owners like Steve of TO agency and TGF. I got banned for revealing how dirty Japanese Emily of a well known agency was.

Holy fuck ! Red board spy Frank Underwood is stalking me now. ..lol

Magicmon · Sep 3, 2021

Anyway

public service announcement don’t do direct deposit

krayjee · Sep 3, 2021

LazyBoy said:
TGF has always had sketchy business practices. I remember SPs used to tell me how the owner demanded free sex as part of the "interview" and anytime he wanted for himself and his friends.

As for red board, congrats on getting banned. What a waste of space!

One girl even told me he asked her to set me up at a place he can record me. He tried that on Stud Lonigan too.
So funny some idiots followed me from red board and telling here I got banned so many times in red board as if it was a shameful thing to get banned there..lol

Frank Underwood · Sep 3, 2021

BIGCORN said:
Locking the thread and banning me will not stop me. I will get this message out about scummy business practices from TGF no matter what. Must protect my brothers

You clearly come across on all your posts as an immature bumbling idiot, and I doubt that you can tie your shoes while standing on one foot and talking simultaneously, how are you going to start acting like one of the Avengers of the sex industry now?

You messaged me crying to call Tom for you to get your money back, like I'm your daddy online. Meanwhile they never accepted your money and you were too dumb to realize that. There is a reason why no other client has been asked for ID, not soulsweeper7, not first man, and not me. That is probably because we don't come across as sketchy idiots online. You know @jaimie wolf and I discussed this, he also wasn't asked for an ID either. Why you?

God, you and tom only know what exactly transpired during your interaction there and what you did to push the situation to that point. I don't care to find out, but I have never seen Tom pissed off in my entire time I have been using his service, you somehow managed to really piss him off.

Frank Underwood · Sep 3, 2021

Flatulent Fox said:
They deleted most of posts there so I'll just repeat myself here. This isn't the first time they stole the deposit from a member there. One guy asked to book for HH, they took his deposit, then said all the girls have a 1h minimum. Another guy booked using a fake name (like many clients), sent the deposit which had his real name, they took the deposit, then blocked him because of the mismatch, which they would have known about before accepting the transfer. They're scumbags.

I approached you with the utmost respect on the thread in the red board because I am aware of your massive contributions within this community, I have personally benefitted from some of your advice navigating the massage parlor scene, Thank you for that. You accused me of downplaying the agencies role to make @BIGCORN seem like the culprit not the victim, but if I was downplaying the agency's part, don't you think what you are doing is the opposite by twisting the facts of these two scenarios you have listed?

Firstly, @soulsweeper_7 never said he was ripped off of his deposit. If I am reading his post correctly, he completed the screening process and saw someone successfully (for an unknown duration of time on a different day than the day he posted this) and on the next time he tried to book he was informed that most/all the girls are one hour minimum. He did not say this happened on the same day, you are fabricating that story. You can also ask him directly to clarify.

The second anecdote you share, @First man started off by claiming he had used his middle name to book, but later revealed it was a fake name or an alias. In other words he lied on his post here, because he admitted it was an alias and not his real legal name. The agency caught that, and they decided they did not want to take a chance. Whatever criteria they use, is unknown to me but I am piecing things together based on the evidence I see. I am a stickler for rules, and I have my own self imposed code of ethics, the way I see it, he tried to circumvent the screening process by using a fake name possibly on the phone and his EMT, we have no way of knowing that; so his deposit was forfeited.

We can agree or not, but I wouldn't call this a clear case of the agency ripping anybody off on purpose. This is not me downplaying anything but simply stating that things are not as black and white as you are putting it and without all the facts it's probably best not to cast judgement without having all the facts. In my own personal experiences I have never had any issues with the EMT system in place at TGF.

Frank Underwood · Sep 3, 2021

felixami said:
these ladies are vulnerable
how else are they to feel protected?
i applaud the agency for taking important methods to create a safer workplace
other agencies don't give a shit

felixami said:
it adds a good layer of protection
if a dude is violent, he will be deterred
if a dude is a robber, he can be tracked down

bad guys thrive on anonymity and the social stigma on sex workers
take away the secrecy and they run like roaches

Glad to see there are other men like me who feel that girls have the right to be protected. On the night that @BIGCORN's thread was locked and doctored to look how it does now, I had a conversation with a guy via private message. In this message this poster claimed that putting in policies like screening are unnecessary because all agencies employ ex-military bodyguards to safekeep the girls. He upholds that he has seen this with his own eyes, as one time he walked out of an appointment he saw a muscular guy across the hall entering into a unit nearby.

How ridiculous is this? I think within this community, the vulnerability of the women participating in sex work should be even more obvious. I have yet to walk into a massage parlor with a bouncer or bodyguard. What I have seen in every place I have visited: Perla, Pure, Flirt, QQ Spa, VIP, Seductions, and Vaguhan spa, is a lonely hot receptionist sitting by herself in the lobby of the spa.

The spa has cameras and that deters some evil doers, but how often do spas get robbed? Can one of you experts have a discussion about this without trolling?

ironically the people who scream at the invasion of privacy or risk to their identity by sending an EMT don't see cameras as a problem. I see it as more damaging to have someone post or send pictures of me to blackmail me than a random alpha numeric line on my bank statement.

c1000 · Sep 3, 2021

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