Camera Friendly in TJ?

[Gary D]

That was the second time I used that line about being the assistant to the provost marshall at Camp Pendelton. The first time was in a strip club were a girl sat down with me. She had one hand down the front of my pants while her other hand was picking my wallet clean. I left and by the time I made it down the stairs (3 flights) I realised what she had done. I went back into the bar and asked for the manager. I told him what happened. He said he would talk to the girl who was still in the same booth. He walked over to her and a few seconds latter he waved me over. He said she denied picking my pocket. Thats when I used the line about being the assistant to the provost marshall at Camp Pendelton. He said something very fast to her in spanish. She dropped my cash on the floor under the table ($200). She said it must of fallen out of my pocket. I guess it just jumped out of my wallet and fell to the floor. I just wanted my money back so I picked it up counted it (I started with $225, and I payed for a cab and drinks at the bar) and hauled ass out of there

 

[jessnluna]

I was getting a lap dance when I asked if I could take he pic, she asked for the $10 tip. You are right I would never start with offering money for pics.

 

[Wonders]

Supergato,

I know of that law, and have since it came out. Not once have I been requested to show my photos from 2003-2006 when I returned from Thailand.

I am more scared of bar owners in LOS than in Mexico, for they do hire underage girls to work in their bars.

Like I said if your an asshole to the ICE agents at a point of entry, chances are you'll be inspected with a fine tooth comb.

I was inspected in 2005, because my surge suppressors and appliances I took overseas drew a red flag in Xray, because of all the wires. What really flagged it was because I returned on the day Bali was bombed again by terrorists.

 

[coolade]

AmigoMio is speaking of the PROTECT ACT of 2003. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PROTECT_Act_of_2003)

The law gives the authority to the CBP and other law enforcement agencies to search for kiddie porn at US ports of entry w/o the need for a warrant or probably cause. For the most part people "randomly" get their computers or cameras taken at airports. Many of these are single men coming back from known child prostitution tourist sex destination. This law also helps LE bust pederasts who go to countries like Vietnam for the purpose of having sex with children. This is also the law that gave us the 2257 paperwork requirement on porn.

Although I am for busting people who have sex with minors, I'm not keen about the search and seizure of my computer without a warrant or probably cause. Every time I fly into the US via Chicago I'm searched for drugs (oh you were in Amsterdam, can you please step over here) or suspicions of being a pederast (oh you were in Thailand, can I see your camera?... he looked at the photos of the beaches and Buddha statues for a few seconds and it was pretty clear I wasn't transporting kiddie pix but they did spend 15 minutes rifling through my bags).

I only monger with 18+ and don't take pictures of my exploits but I hate the hassle and the delay when I have a flight to catch. Clearly anyone that wants to transport contraband -- especially electronic images that don't need to be physically transported across a border -- can and does do so all the time. The stops at the border are just theater from the government to show they're being tough on crime.

At the land borders it is unlikely to happen unless something is on your record when they swipe your passport that would indicate needing further scrutiny.

And there's a lot of younger looking girls in the alley and clubs of Zona Nortes. Some of those edecanes in Hong Kong look like schoolgirls especially one days when they're all dressed as such. There are a handful of girls in Adelita Bar as well. But the management does actually check in those clubs (I've seen the girls show their IFE card to the doormen at the clubs on entry. I saw one girl with no ID get turned away)

 

[ets_bond_trader]

To begin with I won't get caught because I don't take pictures of naked ladies. If I want to see pics and movies of naked women, I just go to porno sites.

Second if I ever do have photos like that I'll upload them to my web server, and erase the memory card.

 

[horseloverNwhisperer]

el_tib.

How come I understand more the laws of the US than you do?

If you are caught (in the "lets supposes you are caught" lawyer jargon) in the State of California with pictures of naked ladies in your posession and you don't have proof of age when solicited by the LE that picks you up, they are minors, no matter how many times you tell them that "How many Mexican gals you know look under the age of 18?", you are going straight to jail, boy, cause you (again in the "lets supposes you are caught" lawyer jargon) and your lawyer will not be able to round up the girls in Mexico that you took the pictures, get them to produce their Tarjeta de Elector ID and go back to the States to clear you out.

By the way "How many Mexican gals you know look under the age of 18?"...
Lots of mongers coming to Monterrey will always ask to me "they look underage", to which I answer, nope, they are way above of age.

Tons of Mexican girls look underage when they might be over 22-23 years old.
Tons...

 

[clumsystuntmonkey]

Oh thats too funny! Good for you!

 

[Mr. Derp!!!]

Once again, ICE is not going to harass you unless you're an asshole with them. Show them courtesy and respect, and the worse you might hear is "Did you have a great time?

That is unless you're going through Seattle. Where I hear a woman ICE inspector gives all the mongers the 3rd degree.

How many Mexican gals you know look under the age of 18? I know very few if any. The ones I've been with all look like in their 20s and 30s. I worry more about the spinners in SEA because someone who is 27, can look like 16, due to their small stature.

 

[hollee w]

ICE will only detain you if you're an asshole, so that's an incorrect statement. When I came back from Thailand in 2005, they checked all my DVDs, and I had some Jap porno ones, and they didn't even bother me.

There are no laws in the US regarding adults paying adults for sex abroad. But if you pay or have sex with underage girls, you likely violating the protect act of 2003. And will be arrested if ICE finds evidence of it.

 

[Scout]

Fully clothed as in taking pictures on public places... none at all.

 

[Mickey]

What I'm mainly talking about is taking pictures on the streets of fully clothed SGs. Is there some kind of law against that? The TJ cops seems to say there is?

There is some author that made a film in TJ and he looked up the law, and said something about it, but I can't recall what that is.

Well it's good I no longer take nude photos of girls, but I still sometimes take shots with my pretty good photo camera.

I don't worry about the border patrol guys at the TJ check point, as they rarely even question me, and have never asked to see my camera. However, if I had nude photos and I crossed by airplane in some international city where mongering is known to take place....I'd exchange memory cards and try to be sure they would never find my nude photos.

 

[fretochose]

Guys, this thing about nude pics is not new in Mexico.

Also, be careful cause it seems that you don't know but it also aplies in the US.

If you are caught in the US with this kind of material (recent laws allow that you Americans can be searched down to cameras, memory cards and laptops) and you don't have proof of age of your "models", your are in for serious trouble on your side too.

In Mexico you might be able to get away with it with a bribe, but not in the US.

Addendum for FBs: "don't even know if there are any laws of the books against taking pictures, but they sure act like there are laws against it, especially if you have nude photos."

Yes FB, has to do with child pornography. Like I said, if you don't have proof of age as in the US, the material is treated as if they are minors.

 

[John de Witt]

Yeah, your not suppose to take pictures of the girls in the bars, or even on the streets.

In the bars the managers will try to take away your camera, or film.

I had friends lose they cheap disposals cameras to bar management. I myself have been warned not to take pictures in the bar, when I thought nobody was looking, I tried to take a few shots.

Outside no SG likes her picture taken, and if the TJ cops see you they will try to take the camera away from you, threaten you with arrest, or for sure shake you down for a bribe.

I don't even know if there are any laws of the books against taking pictures, but they sure act like there are laws against it, especially if you have nude photos.

The bars can certainly ban camera use inside their bar.

Chicas are pretty good with pictures. I wouldn't try to bribe them. The ones that say OK, will probably say OK without the bribe. The ones that say no, will probably say no even if you offer them $10 dollars extra.

The toughest ones are the SGs that line the alley, as most say no pictures, but some do. AB girls are also tough to get shots from, but again some say OK. HK, BT, and LC are a lot easier to get pictures from.

 

[vacant]

I was leaving a strip club on Revelution and a guy who was headed in tried to grab a point and shot digi cam from arround my neck. We wound up at arms legnth each of us with a hand full of camera strap. He told me he was the manager and that they had too pics from there club popping up online, and that he wanted the film. I told him that there was no film and I BSed him that I was the assistant to the provost marshall at Camp Pendelton and if he did not let go of my camera it would only take 1 call to my boss and his club would be off limits to all servicemen. He bought it, and let go of the camera strap. I did not find out until later that the cops would bother you for having nude pics. BTW I took 1 topless pic of a dancer who I tipped $10 to let me take the pic, not worth getting into a jam with the Policia over.

 

[Alyce S]

WTF : " I have been told "

 

[Truth Hurts]

Here is what I'm talking about the sub par escort agency Livelatinangeles.com has this written on it's FAQ:



And it's not only Livelatinangeles as I have been told other agencies have told their escorts directly to not to allow pictures.

I guess some escorts and agencies allow pictures, but the point being getting pictures from escorts usually involve two sets of brains telling you " yes or no."

BTW I'm just kidding about Livelatinangeles being sup par. I haven't used this agency, but have heard a few mixed things about them. But if I were to book session with them I'd call Peaches.

 

[Alec]

I always thought escorts were the most picture friendly. I know guys send me pics all the time, so I figure most chicas allow it.

 

[robbinhood]

I don't do that many escorts, but I believe they are some of the worst sex workers in allowing you to take photos of them. One of the things the agencies tell the escorts is not to allow photos being shot of you, and then there is the escort acting on her behalf not wanting pictures being taken of her.

But you never know some escorts I guess will let you take pictures of them, but your best bet for pictures are in the bars. I have found that Hong Kong and Bar Tropical are some of the better places at getting girls to say yes to pictures. The worst are AB, and CC. Getting SGs to allow pictures is extremely tough too.

 

[zendall]

Personally, I think AmigoMio is being kind when he says they will be "wary." Sometimes, they are downright hostile and will literally call the police. There are many instances of mongers using hidden still and video cameras to record their experiences.

Of course, once in the hotel room, it is not unusual for the chicas to acquiesce to having their pictures taken. There's one monger who travels with a suitcase full of props that he uses to entice the chicas to have their pictures taken. His antics are a bit over the top for me, but, hey, to each, their own.

 

[suzi3]

Depends on the girls, but the girls are now wary that their pictures might and can be uploaded to the internet, so many will refuse to have theirs taken.

And another thing, be very careful with the material within the memory card of the cam.
It can hit you 2 ways.

Mexican police can detain you if they search your camera and find naked pictures of girls.
And so will Homeland Security in your US if they decide you went to Mexico for unlawful carnal knowldege.