Emma, new Indian lady

This thread reminds one of the Sasha thread. The same Sasha/Olivia who is now in Calgary waking up to the reality that suckers may be born every day, but most of those suckers don't become regular customers, and that most of them don't have the funds to sustain an unsustainable business model. We need a section for providers titled Wake Up.


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180 basic happy massage is a steep ask. Not sure that level of pricing will sustain a health fan base, but who knows.
I am sure I won’t be taking part. Sorry.

my opinion only.

No kidding.. more self delusion. Typical when 2 or 3 posters wax poetic about someone's good looks. Seriously, providers like Wendy and Sunny are more attractive in my books. Personal Services business is about empathy, connection and 2 ways attraction and kindness. These newbies come and go.


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180 basic happy massage is a steep ask. Not sure that level of pricing will sustain a health fan base, but who knows.
I am sure I won’t be taking part. Sorry.

my opinion only.
I'm with ya, buddy! Too rich for my blood! I'm sure she'll find a few suckers and more power to her!
 
Yep I was thinking of seeing her, she is close to me, but I wont at those prices either and to be honest, I won't see her if her prices go back down.
 
Well, I guess since this thread is totally derailed (like most, lol!) it goes back to what Albertaman keeps harping- money! Supply and demand. Inflation. My thoughts are (OMG! Here I go assuming again!) that she is tired of the pervert horn-dogs wanting cheap extras (whatever the extras may be...) so she's jacked the advertised price up high enough to get rid of the riff-raff- or at least make a ton of money off them until they find another, cheaper lady to harass. She has a faithful, trustworthy, generous bunch of regulars and she's happy and she's saying "fuck off" to the horn-dogs. And if you happen to be a favoured client, you probably pay a lower price. I think the same could be presumed about Callingwood Lily regarding higher-than-market pricing.
 
Derailed? The post is about Emma still and her rates. How is that derailing? Your guess work may be correct and of course it could be totally wrong. Maybe it is just about having an opinion of herself that she believes warrants above market fees. She is entitled to that and clients are entitled to not see her anymore - all of this is, to me, point on about discussing a provider.
 
There really isn't "above market" or "below market" pricing. All pricing is included in the market for goods and services. Consumers seek their own optimal value equation based on pricing presented to them by suppliers. At $180 for a basic massage and HE, Emma's pricing would be considered nearing the top end of the pricing structure, and there are many reasons why a supplier would use pricing like that. They might offer a more premium product/experience and want to offer it to fewer customers at a higher price. Whether the service is actually premium in nature and "deserving" of the price will be determined by the number of customers that opt in.

What determines how "premium" a service is in the happy ending massage business? A bunch of things including the types of services provided, the appearance of the provider, the length of the session, the ambiance of the location, and so on.

I tend to stay in the middle or average pricing end of the spectrum, seeking the best value I can find for about $120/session including HE. So, Emma's pricing structure is above me, and I have no problem with that. It's her business. Based on pics and reports, she's physically beautiful, but that's not a strong enough consideration for me to pay the extra. For some of you, it might be, and there ya go. I'm more concerned with individual chemistry and sensuality. But, for me, being retired, I also face the hard facts of budget limitations, and it is what it is.
 
A) if you think the ladies are ever going to join and post/interact here again, well forget about it.
B) supply/demand means, as stated, no one should be surprised. new/old customers, doesn't matter. we're the demand, not the supply. in any business we'd be doing the same thing, let alone if we had to touch dicks for it.
C) we should never be telling these ladies how to do their business. We try to tell them what hours to keep, what to charge, how to 'do it right'... we're all just selfish pricks looking for our own ideal situation. they are looking for their ideal situation to meet their goals. Share your opinion on her service, please. Tell us if its worth the increases, for you. Otherwise, we're all just shooting ourselves in the foot here.
 
we should never be telling these ladies how to do their business.
But we are always telling them what we think of their business- we let the wallet do the talking! We don't like them the wallet says "No". We like them- for whatever combinations of qualities- including price- the wallet says, "Yes".
 
What about this post's lately are? About price increase?. Yes. She knows what another places charge for that kind services. Question, is she charge more
than ;Molly ($200) ,more than ($180) Sunny, Winky,Mia,Daisy,Lara and all your favorite ladys - No.
All your upset is because she jack the price. She doing the same things as many providers and starting build regular. Already I see ,some of you, give up on her .I believe she like that. She is so busy. Maybe you think, she lowering price . I don't think. She know market prices.
If you have another providers (therapist) with good skills for lower price, let you go. Make sense for me.
I remember a few years ago, H-extra was for $20,what is now. Lately I went to well know Southside place and what they ask
me. $80 massage +$40 he+$40topless+$40 clothes off+$$$$more for extra service. I give up.
Finally, My post is not support Emma.
Maybe she'll be gone,that's normal. People come, people go. If you didn't like her,stop booking. End of the story.
 
I find it pretty silly when comparisons of the new provider are made with Molly or Sunny. And then we are informed that the new providers' clothes stay on. . People have whipped up the delusion and now scrambling to provide meaning to that delusion. No different than the Sasha / Olivia debacle. So the ones defending the new silliness, why don't you go and spend the money and write the glowing reviews?

Hope XP doesn't decide to charge me 180 for an hour after reading this junk.


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Hope XP doesn't decide to charge me 180 for an hour after reading this junk.
Are talking about therapeutic massage or relaxing +service.
Sorry , but this thread not giving me any good advice and answers.
Is just developing more problems and will start to verbal fights. I pass. Thanks
 
Hope XP doesn't decide to charge me 180 for an hour after reading this junk.

No way they will. That business has a large staff and needs the volume they generate from their value equation. Their doors would barely open at $180/hr, and they know it. Wendy and Linda already know they're at the limit of their base pricing, holding the line as tight as they can while doing some renos on XP and keeping TT a slightly more premium experience. Their business objectives are completely different than a home-based provider that can accept a lower volume thanks to much lower overhead costs. They also know that outfits like KLMT will spring up in no time with defecting staff if they reduce their volume of customers. The commercial space the KLMT is at is ridiculously poor, I can't imagine their overhead is terrible. Driving ingress/egress is terrible and it's not really exposed to the main streets the way the developer probably thought it was. KLMT might survive there as they drive traffic through kijiji and word-of-mouth (aka, this place) and not on drive-by business. XP's frontage exposure is terrible, but they've built a hopping business based on repeat customers and an excellent value equation.
 
What I have learned from this thread:

-Emma chooses to charge$120.00/hr, to new clients, for a one hour massage. Nothing else.
-Emma charges $180.00/hr for the same massage c/w a clothed “fun” ending.
-Emma chooses to continue charging her preferred clients $70.00/hr for the same massage service. (Base, no fun at the end)
-Unsure where the cutoff is between preferred and new. (She would know I guess)
-Comparisons between Emma’s $180.00 service and Sunny’s differ by the amount of clothing worn at the same price point.
-Emma feels this price adjustment for new clients is justified, regardless If we do or not.

-MassageRook still feels the existing padding in his own wallet is not enough to soften the blow of a $120.00, massage only, ass kicking, and will choose to stretch his massage budget out as far as possible……..unless he gets a Lotto-Max style of raise.

This synopsis is in no way bashing Emma and her preferred pricing. Just bringing many comments together into one area. If I am wrong, please correct me as needed.
 
No way they will. That business has a large staff and needs the volume they generate from their value equation. Their doors would barely open at $180/hr, and they know it. Wendy and Linda already know they're at the limit of their base pricing, holding the line as tight as they can while doing some renos on XP and keeping TT a slightly more premium experience. Their business objectives are completely different than a home-based provider that can accept a lower volume thanks to much lower overhead costs. They also know that outfits like KLMT will spring up in no time with defecting staff if they reduce their volume of customers. The commercial space the KLMT is at is ridiculously poor, I can't imagine their overhead is terrible. Driving ingress/egress is terrible and it's not really exposed to the main streets the way the developer probably thought it was. KLMT might survive there as they drive traffic through kijiji and word-of-mouth (aka, this place) and not on drive-by business. XP's frontage exposure is terrible, but they've built a hopping business based on repeat customers and an excellent value equation.

My reference to XP possibly charging me 180/hr was a tongue in cheek statement. They are far too astute as business people to do something that silly. The stability of the XP brand is built around treating clients respectfully and with consistency. They greet you with a smile every time. And I can think of no reason to stay for anything less than 90 minutes every time.


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The Emma pricing makes me think of gas station price hikes.
Once in a while a rouge station will throw a $0.09/litre price hike up the flagpole close to a long weekend. When no one salutes, they bring it back in line, and the status quo is equalized.
Will this happen with Emma? That is a crystal ball I don’t have access to.
 
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