FKK Palace, swinging, RLD - the only way to spend 24 hours in Frankfurt

You have to go to Party-treff clubs. Look for this thread. I don't think there is such club in framkfurt itself, you may have to travel a bit North to find them.
 
I am a young American travelling to Frankfurt at the end of May and I would like to know if there are any flat-fare clubs in Frankfurt? Ones where you play a set fee and can choose as many girls as you want to have sex with.
 
I thought I would post exactly how to get there by train (subway)

My hotel was near the Frankfurt main train station (Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof). At the Hauptbahnhof buying train tickets for the U-Bahn(Subway) is easy but not simple to figure out at first. You need Euros - credit cards are not accepted at the machines.
From main train station machines choose Einzelfahrt Frankfurt E2/1.90
I think you need separate ticket for each direction.

From the Hauptbahnhof it's simple to get to the Palace using the train system. Using the U-Bahn, I took the U4 (direction Bockenheimer
Warte) two stops to the last stop, Bockenheimer Warte. From there, I transfered to either the U6 (direction Praunheim Heerstrasse) or U7 (direction Hausen) to Industriehof/Neue Borse (3 stops). You could also take the S-Bahn or a bus, but I found the U-Bahn easy and very fast.

The Industriehof/Neue Borse station is just as the subway exits the tunnel. Get off the train and face the direction that the train would travel. The Palace is to your left. cross the tracks towards the front of the train going to the left. There's an easy to find exit or break in brick fence leading to the street. You can see the Palace from here, about a block or two from the train station.

If you want to walk it it is about a 45 minute walk. I did when I left the Palace. Just head directly for the tall building that looks like a pencil. Keep walking past it and you will run into the trainstation. Just keep on the same road and don't turn off on anyothers and it will take you past the pencil building and to the station.

It was great - real GF experience if you get the right one (s).
 
ZELUCH: thanks for the trouble to write such a comprehensive report.

I hate the RLD scene. Wenave t to few of the City whorehouses...NONE have what The Palace, OASE and FKK-World have in Frankfurt area. Last time I was in the Palace, they hnd ad a shex show on the stage and the place feels more like a party. I stayed from 16.00 till about 22.00 and enjoyed 4 girls, each one more delitious, cooperative and pleasant then the previouse one.

Who gives a dam if the taxi is 5 or 10 Euros...I goe there for pure pleasure and not for accounting excerises.

READERS PLEASE NOTE: This place is elegant, clean
 
ok ill be in frankfurt in september and i am gonna be staying at the continental hotel located at baseler str 56 and its located 100 meters from the main train station i was wondering how far am i staying from the fkk palace and can i walk to the palace from my hotel any help would be great
 
thank you very much.
I agree with you that german people are very friendly and that Frankfurt is a very easy place tu visit.
 
I visited the Palace last Friday and Saturday for the first time - it was fantastic.

On Friday I arrived at about 4pm to find about 30 girls and 20 guys. The atmosphere was very chilled and the girls seemed relaxed. As soon as I entered the I saw Alice and even though i took the advice given below of keeping my powder dry - I just had to go with her within 15 minutes of arriving. Alice is from Columbia (or so she says, I do have my doubts about most of the nationalities i was told over my many hours there). She is dark skinned with a killer body. Gorgeous round (fake) tits and a tight body. The sex was nothing to write about though - she was going through the motions to process me as quick as possible.

I then spent at least an hour at the bar, drinking a couple of cappucinos and cokes. During that time I was approched by most of the girls one by one. Some I wanted there and then, some I didn't, but i waited. Eventually I took Paulina a beautiful Bulgarian. She was levely, great personality and made me feel relaxed. She told me straight away she had a baby daughter, I think this was to explain the slighty saggy tits, but I hadn't noticed, I was looking into her beautiful eyes and mouth. The sex was good, only suck and fuck for me
 
Tussy4U:
Hi there, no I didn't take anything in order to enhance performance during the sessions. I just try to follow some basic rules like avoiding alcohol before I go to the Palace (inside Palace they only have soft drinks which is good).

Also a nice massage from the in-house massage lady after a couple of sessions is really good combined with using the sauna frequently which helps you get going again.

This was my first monger trip since October last year, so yes, you could say I was starved :p

A pleasent improvement I noticed is that before each session the girl now put a nice sheet on the bed instead of the towels they used last year. Remember I had sore knees from the towels after many sessions last time around :)

Should also add that personally I do not orgasm with every girl as I have a sensitive fore-head. This way I can session with many girls but the bad part it increases the total Euro-damage. I must have spent approx. EUR 1000 during my 3 days alltogether, but boy I would not have missed it for the world and can't wait to go back over summer.

Kim2R2: thanks, you are right, at age 33 with all these hot naked women around there is no problem to have the time of your life at an FKK :). Hope I can do as well as you do when I reach your age. Happy mongering!

Regards,
Santa75
 
For fast and easy navigation points, look for...

#1: SAS Radisson, Northeast of Frankfurt's City Centre. (And then you'll be within walking distance of FKK Palace). If you stay there -- and you don't have to -- expect to pay 105 Euros per night. http://www.radissonsas.com/cs/Satel...asLocation/1058339122385/en/hotelCode--frazr/
Radisson SAS Hotel - 3.8 km W - Franklinstr. 65, 60486 Frankfurt, Germany - +49 69 77015 - 50
This is EASY because it has only one location in Frankfurt!

#2: IBIS Hotel (which is supposed to be near the Palace. If you stay there, expect to pay 60 Euros per night.
View http://www.ibishotel.com/ibis/index.html , and then search by either address, or point of interest, or use IBIS' interactive map!
A) Hotel Ibis Frankfurt Friedensbr
 
As to picking trains, and what station you should get off, your VERY BEST source of MAP info is the German company itself that runs the commuter trains. In the unlikely event THEY don't help, LOTS of Germans speak English, and, in my experience, getting directions in Germany is EASY!

The very best maps on the Internet are by "Google.com" and "Mapquest.com". View one of these two sites, enter the address, and presto... you will have an instant map! Then print it out! --- The map that Google provides is especially great! However Mapquest is not far behind! And, what's more, BOTH of them are in ENGLISH!

Don't feel bad for having been to Frankfurt only twice i! You don't have to know much of the city, in order to get around in Frankfurt! All you need is a very rough idea as to where you're going, and the friendly or semi-friendly German people will give you directions! For them it's easy! They've been LIVING in Frankfurt in the last 10+ YEARS!

I hope this helps.

Mike
 
thank you very much.

Really i'm in a low budget plan but not so low. I hate picking taxis and I love trains. and i love walking too.
if I pick a train, what should be the station to get off. ?
and then?
I think I need a map, or if someone can help me where can I find a map in internet. In english preferently, because i dont speak german.

I was twice in frankfurt and i love this city, but i don't know very much of it.
 
First of all, I want to thank you all for your info on this forum. Before making my first trip to Frankfurt, I had read most threads on this forum and it was very helpful in helping me make informed decisions. I've been to several countries in Europe and Central America and this trip to Germany was amazing! I'll try to pass on what I've learned...The steps in the RLD are horrible, much worse than Amsterdam, where it's flat and you can be outside, dressed according to the weather and not some crazy temperature inside a huge building up on the 6th floor! The KOMM building and the main Eros center near that corner (about 6 stories high) are the best in terms of quality of girls. There are many different buildings to explore, but some are not worth going back too. My perogative would be to go into all of the buildings to first check them out, but if the girls on the first couple floors were not to my liking then I wouldn't even bother going up anymore steps. I ended up spending time with 2 girls during two of my visits (the rest of my time was spent at the FKK Palace which I will detail next). Like most RLD's it's important to talk to the girls and find what you want. Most times when I read about people's bad experiences, it is because they probably chose the wrong girl or were not liked by the girl they chose, you must be respectful to all of the women and be realistic about the vibe you are picking up from every girl even if you really want to fuck that girl, sometimes you need tp predict your level of enjoyment. I found one very pretty girl from Hungary who was 22yo, that for 50E i got to fuck for 20min and then take a few pictures (pictures were taken after sex) but she was very willing and I took about 7 shots total, which was a great bonus for me, most working girls in Europe that I have asked to take pics of have said no, even if you say they can hide their face, etc...In Amsterdam it's not even a good idea to take your camera with you as it could easily be taken from you by the security in and around the RLD, if they suspect you are trying to take pictures of the girls as you walk the streets, but in Frankfurt I felt much more comfortable, and if the girl agrees once you are in the room then that is a great thing! The other girl I chose was 28yo and from the Ukraine, her name was Eva. She was a 10 IMHO and I had a great time with her. I wasn't able to finish with her for some reason, but for 30E for 20 min, plus a foot massage I gave her actually got me about 45 minutes total with this girl for my 30E- fantastic! Oh yeah, there was one other girl (Maria/Bulgaria/19) who I found quite appealing on Sunday afternoon in Haus 35 (I think) she spoke very little English and seemed very angry and bitchy and agitated to everyone she spoke too, including me. I asked her price and she said 25E for 20 minutes. I knew I was probably not going to get good service from her, but she was so bitchy I thought it would turn me on to give her a good, hard bone. She was so uninterested I started to lose my energy as soon as I got in the room, but again for 25E this was part of the thrill. She did have great breasts, but once we would start fucking or if I started to touch her, she kept saying some words in Bulgarian, and would look away and she would let out a deep breath, etc...I actually started to get a good rhythm and then she would say more words and then I would have to stop. Eventually, I totally lost my boner and I just stopped and pulled out, put on my clothes, and walked out not saying anything more to her. I certainly would have liked to finish with this girl, but she really was pissing me off, so rather than making any trouble i just left.

I also spent 3 days at the FKK Palace. (Taxi from Hauptbahnhof about 10-12E) This place was amazing!!! 75E cover, 50E for 30min with girls (once in the room, you can negotiate for more services, but for your 50E you will usually get MORE than you can handle :p if you know what I mean. The place is huge, very clean and well-organized. I would get there, chill in the steam room for about 20min, take a shower, get some juice or food from the buffett and then chat with the girls. The TV Room had pornos on a movie theater size screen, with huge cadillac size couches all across the room. This place is truly a palace. I have never seen anything quite like this before. There are massive couches and swings, and private areas, that this place would be every man's fantasy, a true Garden of sexual Eden There were so many different people from all over the world, it was such an awesome vibe that we need these palaces in every city in the world (we can dream can't we?!). The girls were all so sexy, they are in the club totally naked, except for sexy make-up, jewelry, 4 inch heels, piercings, etc... Later in the night, the girls would keep filtering in, and on Friday night I would have to speculate that there were probably about 75 girls there total that night. 10's, 9's, 8's, and 7's all over the place. I spent time with a 19yo from Germany named Mandy, a 22yo from Romania named Olivia, and lastly, a beautiful 23yo Russian named Maya (these girls were over 3 separate days mind you). In talking, flirting and making conversation with these women, I had great experiences with all of these girls! I'm tired of typing now, but this is just meant to be a quick, informative recap for this site, if this is helpful for you or if you have any specific questions or want more info, just write a reply and I will respond! I will definitely be returning to this place...with friends in tow!!!
 
i went on the weekend.
to both palace and the RLD.
even though i detest the area i thought i would try it again.
it was fine.
loads of heroin addicts on the street behind taunastrasse though.

i think it was 36 or 39 where there are the best looking girls.
its the one on the main st that looks small on the outside, but about 10 girls each floor.
i asked around and the pricing seems fixed at 30 euros.
i went with an italian girl on the 1st floor at the back from the stairs turn left and she was on the right hand side.
30 euros, sex and BJ.
standard stuff really.



palace is also 75 euros and 50 euros a pop
 
Good question. Of the places I visited, I was charged between 30-50 EURO for 15-20 minutes. Service was mixed for this price, ranging from a hand-job and feel to full on, PSE. Never actually made it to the Palace, but I've heard from the boards that entry is 75 EURO followed by 50 EURO per session with the girl.
 
SANTA,
Your vivid account of PALACE is great and very vivid. It does justice to the place and to your ability to make the best of it. At your 33 years of age, (yob-1975?), I would have been surprised if you did not. Even I at 50+ I managed to spend a delightful whole day in the summer at FKK-World with a similar score++. But then these gorgeous East European girls have so much sheer femininity to offer to make a man rise to the occasion. But three days in a row....you must have been starving....happy dreams in USA
 
So JBX, out of curiosity,what was the range of prices you paid at RLD? Did you make it to palace? thanks Good stuff keep sharing
 
Hi, Alvaromans,

I visited Frankfurt a few years ago. It's just another big city, but it's also clean, and safe, and moderately friendly!

NO, you won't need a cab. Frankfurt is Europe, and therefore you will find everything more compact! Walking in Frankfurt is not as common as in NYC, or London, or Toronto, but it is STILL considered normal! You can walk anywhere! You could rent a car, too, but why rent anything when you can walk, and get some exercise! While you walk, you can do a bit of sightseeing, and grab some food, too. I'm sure you will walk by a great many small bars, restaurants, and other miscellaneous businesses! Within a couple of city blocks, most of these businesses are mixed in with residential buildings around the main railway station and airport.

In the very worst case, if you do find this FKK Club, or anything else, is too far from the bahnhoff/railway station, there are clean, safe, and highly reliable commuter trains for a low price of 3.75 Euro, per ride!

If you're REALLY on low-low budget, Get hold of a Fodor's guide book, and check out the Youth Hostel I wrote about earlier! I'm sure it won't be like a Hilton Hotel, but the price will be right!

I hope this helps.

Mike
 
Dear friend:

Really a very nice report. I am going to frankfurt soon and I am very interested in going to a swinger club like Juergen's.
As I don't know frankfurt very much (I've been there only twice) and my budget is very low I'd like to know where this club is. Is it very far from the Banhoff. Is it possible to get there using a cheaper way than picking a taxicab. (for example metro or bus).
is there any place in internet where I can get an "easy" plan?

thank you very much
 
I don't understand the excitement. EUR 15-16 is the correct price for a taxi ride to Palace from the main station. Of course you can go by U-Bahn. Whatever you want. If you choose a cab, you'll have a comfortable ride, and more time with the girls at Palace.
 
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  31. JerryWangWw:
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  32. Red Rose Spa:
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  33. Sparkling Spa:
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  34. AliceSpa:
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  35. Jenny’s Spa:
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  36. wonderspa:
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  37. HollywoodSpa:
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  38. ASPA:
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  39. lotushubspa:
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  40. Annie Spa:
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  41. Soul Relax Spa:
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  42. bnwellness_wilson:
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  43. ForeverWarden:
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  44. すみません:
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  45. HolidaySpa:
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  46. SugarLoveSpa:
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  47. New Oriental Health Centre:
    🫦 Coco, Phoenix & Ada are in today 📞Call 📲 Text: (647) 381-2688 🫦Phoenix is a Canadian Born Filipino Hottie 💄Coco is a young sexy Taiwanese girl 🫦 Ada is a sexy European Hottie 👄 All Our Girls Provide Lots of E X T R A S & are Extremely Open-Minded 🤗We're Open from 8am til Late Everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  48. See You Health Center:
    Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Sexy tight body amazing C cups with Those incredible nipples Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl ☎️416-988-2950
  49. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
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  50. Lulu1980:
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