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[Joe F]

What about when:

A) A guy comes to get a massage expecting to get the most mileage, and a VIP service for peanuts... (VIP SERVICE= VIP TIP)

B) A guy actually sneaks out without paying (especially when the girl just made you moan and CUM all the way to the wall).

C) Please, please, please! When you take a shower, do not only rinse (to smell like wet dog right after), use some soap and MOSTLY remove any trace of shit out of your smelly asses, don't your mothers thought you how to do it, have you forgotten?), use deodorant (those armpits ewww), brush your teeth (sometimes not only you r asshole, your underarms and feet smell like shit, but you're mouth, your stinky breath)... I don't wanna sound rude but let's face it, why the USA would send troops to Iraq when they can send you all and kill everyone with your smell (and your lack of common sense)?....

D) Why call us bitches and money hungers? Hello!!!!! We are doing this because the $$$$$, not 'couse we're actually ready to be your slaves...
Please!!!! Stop being so fkn cheap, if you want to get the best service PAY FOR IT!!!! AND STOP COMPLAING ABOUT GIRLS BEING RUDE WHEN YOUSERSELVES HAVE CAUSED ALL THIS, BY BEHAVING LIKE JERKS TAKING ADVANTAGE ON THE GIRLS (AND SMELLING BAD IN MOST CASES...AND YOU THINK THIS IS AN EASY JOB)!!!!!

E) So many girls do not want to ask you for more $$$, 'couse they're shy, but as soon as you leave we talk dirt about you. So what, she was to mechanical, she is not the girl of your dreams, you didn't like her massage, etc. ok good, you're right, just do not take anything from her, too bad if there is not chemistry, just wait for the next best thing, and don't abuse...

Did you know that there are actually VERY NICE clients that are not going around trying to abuse us, and love our service? Every girl has her own regular nice clients, please stop wasting your time posting bullshit and let us work with the good ones that deserve being treat like kings.

PS. THIS GOES ONLY FOR THE ASS_ _ _ _ _ NOT FOR ALL THOSE NICE CLIENTES THAT WE ARE SO PLEASE TO SERVE...

 

[Breeze M]

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The person who posted this is not going to sleep for atleast 3 days. I think she is ready for a big war. Now the AIR,LAND and WATER Troops of eforum.xxx will start the attack.

MOD 5 , Please be ready.. Because Kofi Annan is busy in G8 conference.. In this critical situation the MP started this kind of thread.Now it is Emergency Period.

Hello Poster (The Judge) , Switch off your TV , Be ready with the readymade foods for atleast 3 days, sit in front of your computer ,only one browser should be opened and the web site should be eforum.xxx. You will not have time to see any other website.

Meanwhile you can refer the other threads to how to give a reply and tackle the attack.

I will come with my Missile tomorrow...

 

[Yeoman Prince]

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actually i think its funny and true what she wrote ..i like her already lol
hats up ...but this is not the 1 est time eforum.xxx comes under attack from providers
any way miss judge you dont expect makeing a 100+ dollar per hour close to 20000 $ a month with no education or speciall skils ...and it would be easy lol
if you have enough balls an carisma to post this then you should be good enough to make it the normall way in life and not look for an easy way out selling your body to smelly men
life is not easy and you dont get something for nothing
and baby you are a slave thats the truth..a slave for money ..wake up

 

[bbshady]

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a- say they have many lovely young women, to me that means early 20's not mid 30's, and never let you chose who you want.

b- put on so much oil on your back you feel like a human slip & slide, never mind jr.

c- you see them costantlly watching the clock

d- stop massageing you to answer the phone (one of my favs)

e- ask you " is it gonna take you much longer ?" and do that fake ass moaning, while they're beating you, as if

f- you ask for an option and they reply "maybe next time, when i know you better, you come back"

g- last and certainly not least, you work at a massage parlour and have NO clue what the hell you are doing

by the way, i always shower well, am in good shape, polite and i ask before i try anything, i respect those who show me respect, but doing any of these things above is being disrespectful to your client and i'm sure you do most of these things if not all, so in closing blow it out your ass.

 

[Luke]

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I love this. There's nothing more hated in any business than an obnoxious f'in client. I'm sure people will get defensive about this, though. I know when an SP is being insincere. I'm just neurotic enough that I'd rather have an SP tell me what she really thinks of me

Anyway, I've figured out what's wrong with the world: other people. This is why I'm so anti-social. If you're sociable, people will stick around and talk to you. The purpose of interaction with others is not to converse, but to get rid of them as quickly as possible so they don't waste any more of your time

 

[yehduniyameri]

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Judge,

I have been in many massage places and I can sympathize with and verify everything you wrote. A lot of guys expect high mileage for nothing. Worse, very few clients understand proper hygiene. When you're taking a shower, use the soap everywhere, including washing your smelly armpits and smelly ass. Last but not least, wash your little fella if you are going for mileage!

Now, to the dirtbags that leave without paying, you should be profiled and barred from entering any massage place. This is another reason for having cameras in an establishment.

Don't be cheap. If you expect a BBBJ, which is extremely rare in most massage places, then fork over some cash (and I am not talking a $20 or $40 tip here). My cutoff point is $140-$150 when visiting an MP (even at these rates, I can get an SP but sometimes I enjoy erotic, sensual massages). And, I can add, I never asked nor got more than a sensual massage with a HJ at massage places.

Finally, the crap these ladies endure always bothers me. It's part of their work hazards but some guys really belong in a farm with the pigs. In fact, I am sure some ladies would rather massage actual pigs than the pigs they encounter.

GG

 

[RuddiGer]

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Your quote is incomplete ".....while getting as much of their money as possible."

The Dogbert from the Dilbert cartoon strip approach to life.

 

[sasafras0916]

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Judge,

You don't have to post this in two threads.
One is enough.
Mods should close one of them.

 

[Lord Crimble]

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Hey The Judge, Nobody is forcing you to do that job, if you don't like it stop, get a real job, start paying taxes. Nobody is forcing you to do that line of work and nobody will force any of us clients to pay an amount that we feel is not reasonable for the service that was given. You're in the service business, the more service you give, the more $$$ you'll get, live with it.

 

[holey moley]

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regulus,

I would add that so many of those so-called MASSAGE providers have no idea that in an hour there is 60 minutes!
Not 40,not 45,not even 50.
SIXTY!!!!
Also some of those so called Mp's who claim they provide sensual massage have no idea of what a real sensual massage is.
For them it amounts to making oily circles on the back of a guy for about 15 minutes and than, boom!
A list of a zillion options.
Quite sensual uh?
For those so-called mp's who have no idea of the true meaning of sensual massage I'd suggest book an apointment at L'Absolu with either Isabelle,Caroline or Evelyne.
What's a little 60(+tip,don't be cheap!) investment,you and your ''regular'' clients will be more then please by your new ''talents''.
You might even recruit more George Clooney like handsome and generous gentlemen to shower you with $$$$.
Btw,most guys here have dayjobs,and with them comes a few duds.
That includes,bitchy clients,asshole bosses,jealous co-workers ect...
Most of us work really hard for our bucks,we don't earn 100/hour+.
What do you ecxpect from a job with zero scholarship?
You probably make more in a day then most of us in a week.
So no tears here.
bye

 

[Sam S]

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Oliver, just a question: Why do you look down on this person (and many others lately)? What did she do to you to deserve that? And McDonalds? What do you know of her education and experience?

I know you have extensive experience and know a lot of girls in this hobby (MPs, SPs, etc), but wouldn't you agree that it's not fair to generalize the way you're doing? IMHO, a bit of restrain on your part would not be a bad idea.

BTW, I'm not defending this girl specifically, I don't know her at all.

 

[jimy]

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Gentle to her,

Like she didn't generalize herself.....
A bit of restraint on her part wouldn,t have been a bad idea either.

 

[simi_krishna2003]

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Did you miss that last part of her post?

 

[Stephen]

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People should also notice that she hasn't posted since her original post that started the thread. She comes here and drops a load on the board and doesn't have the guts to take part in any discussion. Her post isn't worth responding to unless she is willing to take part and give her reasons for it in the first place. Yes, there are bad clients just as there are bad mp's. If she has a problem with her clients' hygiene, she should ask them to shower first. If she works where there is no shower, then how good is her hygiene as she can't shower between clients either. Works both ways people.

 

[yyyyyy]

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Actually I thought regulus was Tony replying to her post.

 

[Tamuna X]

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Actually I agree with most of what judge was making up as a point.
SHE IS NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT THE JOB, BUT ABOUT SOME CONDITIONS THAT DO NOT HAVE TO BE A PART OF HER JOB AND COULD BE TAKEN CARE OF WITH EASE.
When you guys propose her to get some education and get "legal"-of what you mean by that-save your breath-you don't know who she is.
The only people who could get insulted by her writing are exactly the ones who have to take care of themselves.
She was talking about people escaping without paying, about dirty people(dirty meaning not washed) etc.
If you are not so, why do you get offended by what she writes?
The problem exists, and it's better to talk about it openly- it only helps to imrove service and increase mutual respect where it's missing.
Why don't you guys want to hear from the other end?
Is it only hobbist's site and masseuse's opinion does not count?
Anyway- my hat to you, judgefor having balls to get the point out.
It was maybe not the best tonality, but I guess you've just got fed up with it.
Bori

 

[Brickfists (Again)]

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Oliver, Why are you so much on the defensive? Where did I challenge your knowledge? Do you need eyeglasses? Please read again:



You want to know my massage experience? For sure much less than yours, but like your assumption that 'THE JUDGE' is dumb (which may be right - or wrong - as none of us really know her), you're also making an assumption that my massage experience is limited based on what I post here. This thread is not a "I have more MP/SP experience than you" contest, but let's just say I have probably been to most MPs in MTL at least once, many multiple times, and I also know a lot of MPs personally, some of whom I continue to see on a regular basis even though they are retired.

Oliver, I don't want to start a war (and no need to PM me again). I was stating the fact that you looked down on an individual with comments like "with your education and experinace im sure mcdonalds will take you", when you have NO CLUE who the person is and what her experience and education is. Some SPs and MPs might be in a very challenging life position, some have no choice, some played the wrong cards (drugs), and believe it or not some a real students in universities too!

You definitely have a very misogynistic view on women, and not everyone on eforum.xxx share your views. I just happen to be one to publicly voice my opinion, and you felt attacked. Again, all I was saying is what I said:

"it's not fair to generalize the way you're doing. IMHO, a bit of restrain on your part would not be a bad idea."

Please read this again word by word, and don't try to read things I didn't say between those words.

Feel free also to put me on your ignore list. FYI, I will not put you on mine as you are posting interesting stuff most of the times. The tone of your posts is often condescending, but I can live with that.

Gentle

 

[mtnhotte]

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To those who think that sex industry is about selling one's body- you are wrong.
It is a service you buy, not a body nor any part of it.
The service that you buy could cost you in hourly rate for the provider or on a service-money base.
As for gentleman not trading sex for money( or sexual favour for money)-I'm sorry, but that's tooo bold and not soo much true...
By such statement you offend more than one-I'm surprised that such line did not get a higher wave of responses than the initial post.
Shame on you, JOYSTICK you just took away the chance to be called gentleman from WAY TOO MANY PEOPLE, specially on this bord.
Who's the black sheep?
There is nothing bad in providing or consuming sexual services, but there is a lot of bad in just being a bad person.
As for the professionalism of masseuses in your favourite salons and clinics- well, not that many of you go there to get a REAL massage, but more for mileage, and that's what you get and that's what you pay for or have intention to do.
Let's be honest and respectfull to one another please..
Bori

 

[handsomeprince75]

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i know we like to think that but its not true and weather we like it or not its wrong ...on our part and yours ...

 

[Carlee]

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While the Judge speaks the truth, in the end the market conditions will drive prices. If there are places that are offering 1 hour massages with HJ (independant masseuses) then the clients will return to these places after their initial visit. If the price is right. (Indies charge $45 per hour HJ included) The places that charge more than the going rate will loose clientelle. The salons may charge more, but there are many other variables. (younger masseusses, more options, ect. ect.)
As far as smelly, rude, inconsiderate clients go that comes with the job, of any sort. Nothing you will do can improve their personalities or hygene.