Help with Organ Techniques

Shelby J

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For those of you who work with the organs, do you have any tips for feeling confident in your connection to the organ as you work?

Many of you know that I specialize in Lymph Drainage Therapy. Much of the advanced LDT training focuses on drainage for the organs. While I'm very confident working with lymphatic flow of the skin, muscles, eyes, ears -- anything on the surface of the body, I'm less confident working with the organs that are under the ribcage. Sometimes I feel a strong connection with the organ & can feel the release. Other times, I'm flying blind & just hoping something beneficial is happening.

Does anyone have any tips to share, to help with that connection?
 
Help with Organ Techniques

Blisss said:
For those of you who work with the organs, do you have any tips for feeling confident in your connection to the organ as you work?

Many of you know that I specialize in Lymph Drainage Therapy. Much of the advanced LDT training focuses on drainage for the organs. While I'm very confident working with lymphatic flow of the skin, muscles, eyes, ears -- anything on the surface of the body, I'm less confident working with the organs that are under the ribcage. Sometimes I feel a strong connection with the organ & can feel the release. Other times, I'm flying blind & just hoping something beneficial is happening.

Does anyone have any tips to share, to help with that connection?

Part of my Oncology Massage training is learning acupressure. Most of the time, I also feel a strong connection to the points, but there are times when I don't. My teacher says that whether or not you "feel" anything, just continue to practice and follow your teacher's instructions regarding location etc, trust in it, and eventually you will feel more and more confident.
 


Hi Cy,

Thanks for your reply! I grew in confidence with the other lymphatic techniques through practice, so I'm hoping that will develop with the organ techniques as well. I'm also consciously focusing my intention on each organ & trying to silently communicate with the body, and that does seem to help, but the certainty is lacking.

Does anyone else have advice to add? I'm not just asking people who specialize in lymphatic organ work. I'm open to advice from anyone who works with the organs within their bodywork specialties. Thanks in advance!
 


I am quite certain I don't have anything helpful to add (I don't work with organs), but I was wondering about some points that you made.

Blisss said:
I'm also consciously focusing my intention on each organ & trying to silently communicate with the body, and that does seem to help, but the certainty is lacking.
What are you trying to communicate? Also, did they teach you that you would physically feel the flow in the organ and the release or was it more of ethereal feeling/concept of connecting with the organ?

Blisss said:
I'm less confident working with the organs that are under the ribcage. Sometimes I feel a strong connection with the organ & can feel the release.
What does the connection feel like when you do feel it? And what does the release feel like? Do you ever feel connected but don't feel a release?
 


Find an experienced Shiatsu practitioner who does Hara Diagnosis. They can guide you on what you are feeling, and which it relates to.

Darren
 


tribute said:
Blisss said:
I'm also consciously focusing my intention on each organ & trying to silently communicate with the body, and that does seem to help, but the certainty is lacking.
What are you trying to communicate? Also, did they teach you that you would physically feel the flow in the organ and the release or was it more of ethereal feeling/concept of connecting with the organ?

Blisss said:
I'm less confident working with the organs that are under the ribcage. Sometimes I feel a strong connection with the organ & can feel the release.
What does the connection feel like when you do feel it? And what does the release feel like? Do you ever feel connected but don't feel a release?
Hi Tribute,

Thanks for your questions. They made me realize how difficult this work is to verbalize, which makes it difficult for people to give me advice as well. But I will try to answer your questions. Regarding "communicating with the body": If I'm working on the liver, I will talk to the liver silently. I will actually say hello (in my head) & request permission to connect & explain to the liver the goal of my work. Then, I listen for the liver to respond. This was recommended in class, to help establish the connection, and it does seem to help. They also recommended taking a deep breath & softening the posture. The theory is that a practitioner who is tense & trying too hard won't be able to make the connection. It's something you need to relax into & simply allow to take place.

Regarding how it feels to connect with the organ & feel it release, it's both a physical sensation & an energetic one. It's subtle, like all lymphatic work. But when I really feel the connection, I actually feel the organ pull me in & I also feel the release of lymph from the pathways which surround the organ. Sometimes, with the liver for example, I can even hear the release (it's a quiet gurgle, like a tiny babbling brook flowing in the center of the body). Usually, if I feel the connection, the release follows. If I feel challenged, it's with feeling the connection in the first place.

As a client, I have received organ work from a variety of people: lymph therapists, visceral manipulation therapists, shiatsu practitioners, etc. Sometimes I can feel that they are connected with my organs, and other times I feel nothing. (Similar to my experience as a practitioner). However, when we were learning these techniques in class, and one of my fellow students was practicing on me & trying to connect, I felt an energetic shift when they finally achieved the connection. I felt a peaceful calm pass through me, like my organ was being cradled in their hands. Similarly, I have had some clients tell me how surprisingly comforting it is for them to receive organ work from me.

I will continue to follow the advice of my teachers, and trust that the feeling of connection will become more consistent. After all, a few years ago I was always "flying blind" with organ work. Now, I feel the connection/release often; I just want to be able to feel it always! (Yes, I hear the childlike impatience in that last statement. ;) )
 


Thanks so much for that detailed reply!

Although I don't work with organs the way you do, I am familiar with the way you approach that work. I wonder when you don't feel the connection if perhaps the client's mind is wandering, racing, or otherwise "disassociated" with the present moment. Many times I find when I can't connect it is because the client still has a guard up and usually when I ask them if they are have stuff on their mind, they do. Other times I find it is my own ego. I wonder if when you communicate your hello and intention with the organ, but you still don't feel a connection, have you ever just kind of sat back and "been" in its presence? Not ask anything of it, not tell it what you are planning....just sit with it and see if it opens up to you or perhaps it has a message of its own? So often when I stop putting myself out there and just be with the tissue, observe it, in a humble way, a course of action presents itself.

I hope that helps. The subtle work is always so interesting!
 


Blisss said:
Then, I listen for the liver to respond. This was recommended in class, to help establish the connection, and it does seem to help. They also recommended taking a deep breath & softening the posture. The theory is that a practitioner who is tense & trying too hard won't be able to make the connection. It's something you need to relax into & simply allow to take place.

Oh, I realize that you probably already understand the "being" part since I just reread this and it sounds like you practice this to a certain extent.
 


Hello Bliss,

I just want to elaborate a bit on something you said. You mentioned that you were instructed to soften your posture. I agree that starting from a place of being relaxed yourself is very helpful, since that is what you will convey kinesthetically to your client. However, keep in mind that your posture and alignment need to be relaxed but centered, keeping your spine long. If you collapse your posture for the sake of relaxation, you will be compressing your own inner organs, and that sensation of compression will also be conveyed to your client.

This brings me to another suggestion. In working with a specific organ (say the liver) in order to find a strong connection to the organ in question, is helpful to start by having a clear sense of connection to the sensation of your own inner organ. How do you perceive your own liver? How do you establish a connection with your own inner tissues? How is it different for you the energetic quality of your liver or your kidneys? Can you allow your inner organs to settle in the abdominal cavity? Can you sense the ways in which you accumulate tension in one organ or another, and can you allow that tension to release?

I suggest this inquiries (I am sure you can find your own questions) as a way to start developing a relationship with your own inner organs. It can be very difficult to try to sense a connection with someone else's organs if I have not found that connection within my own organism.

BodyMind Centering, the work of Bonnie Bainbridge Cohen, has some very interesting ideas about working with the organs. She talks about the supportive function of the organs and how to activate it; she has specific strategies to repattern movement through the organ system; and she speaks of different qualities of the "mind" of each organ. You can check their website http://www.bodymindcentering.com, for information of classes and practitioners near your area. There is also a book that is an introduction to BMC, called "Wisdom of the Body Moving" by Linda Hartley.

I also agree with the suggestion to "listen." Find a relaxed and centered alignment, find your breath and your connection to your own inner tissues. Let your hands slide under the body of your client and "hold" the organ, as if you were holding a ballon full of water. Visualize clearly the organ in yourself and your client. And think of your hands as if they are sinking under the table. Make sure you are not "leaning" over your client, but sit back a bit, allow space. Let the dialogue with the inner organs come not from your head, from the sensations in your own body.

I hope this helps.

Jaime
 


Movetoheal, thank you for the reminder on spinal alignment. That was an omission in my post, but I did mean relaxed & aligned posture. I strive to keep my body mechanics positive at all times. I like your ideas for connecting with my own organs, and see that as a great opportunity for practice at home. However, for me personally, I wouldn't necessarily want to tune in to my organs & my client's organs simultaneously. Energetically, that feels like a blurred boundary to me. I do like your suggestion to "allow space" and also Tribute's suggestion to "simply be in the organ's presence." That's the difference between allowing a release to happen & trying to make it happen, the first being much more effective.

Thanks to everyone who has posted. It's given me much to consider, and some ideas to try.
 
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    All season wellness center : Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Midi,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Helen , Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry,๐Ÿ  address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  33. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Anika , Student pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Michelle,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella, Taiwan girl DD Boobs Thai deep massage lily,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  34. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ - An exotic tall and slim Vietn
  35. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบOpen Sunday Wonder spa(9421Jane st unit127)โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800.very big boost Joey and Sunny working today,Joey is sexy girl ,she can provide very good massage with sensual touch, nice Sunny can provide deep tissue massage,she got a lot experience,come see them today,welcome to walk in๐ŸŒบ๐Ÿ‘™much try๐Ÿท๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  36. AliceSpa:
    SUNDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด:[/color] Hot Busty BLONDE Girl today at Alice Spa: ELLA (12pm-9pm): is a small & curvy white young girl from Romania, super super busty EE Cups, blue eyes, blond hair, ok services, bbbJ cfs. Please call before booking her due to high demand. Alice Spa has DEBIT PAYMENT available now! Plenty of free parking. Front and back entrance. ALICE SPA, 4915 Steeles Ave. E,
  37. xodyhard:
    Anyone know tracy from forever spa,does anyone where she working aside in forever spa?
  38. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธYoYo๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธHellen Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  39. ASPA:
    ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐—” ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: EMMA and Best Massage RACHEL.[/color] ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable. RACHEL is a slim and attractive
  40. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Jennifer & Mia. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded. Come and give her a try, and youโ€™ll be sure to come back for more. Mia is a Caribbean service queen temptress with incredible curves & very friendly attitude. She is able to bbbj
  41. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธAmy & Suki. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills SUKI is a sexy lady, short with big boobs, medium massage & nice services. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด
  42. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธRebecca๐ŸŒธTiffanyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  43. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘body scrub๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 Nice girl Luna is joining. She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Jessica ๐Ÿ˜˜can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking space at the back door
  44. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 13 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, MALIYA, PREET, KIRAN, ANNA, NISHA, SALMA, SABHA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  45. Applover:
    This chat is something. So no one believes Markkk
  46. Applover:
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  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Sunday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, CARA & JOLIE. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. CARA is a young & attractive Chinese attendant, 5โ€™3โ€ & 100 pounds with natural C Cup big boobs, very friendly
  48. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Helen๐ŸฅฐBrand new very young university student from Hong Kong. Great massage skills with a wild flirtatious side willing to tease and please to bring you to satisfaction. Perky natural 34C breasts perfect for kissing and body slide
  49. hiyamickey:
    Reinella wellness will have 6 girls working, young petite Japanese girl Amanda, Queenie, Lucky, Jenny, Vanessa, Ella @6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  50. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll with natural 34C melons, slim waist, & a cute little 33โ€ booty. Tiffany has incredible bbbj skills, tastes as sweet as honey