Chat Hobbying is getting riskier and harder to cover your tracks...

[OG_funguy]

And ffs stop inviting girls to your house!

Hey, I do hotels (and cars) now! In fact, have another outing lined up this week...

 

[hangul99]

Hey, I do hotels (and cars) now! In fact, have another outing lined up this week...

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Not deleting texts wont help your cause.

 

[OG_funguy]

Not deleting texts wont help your cause.

I know...but helps me keep track of things. Can get complicated with a few ladies on the go. Like I said, maybe I should just delete everything, start fresh and go with a way simpler approach next time.

 

[exile]

Repeating some advice and adding a bit more:

• get a VPN for your computers & phone.
• use Brave browser or DuckduckGo's
• stop using your regular email app & sync'ing. Get an alternate account.
• Don't set user name & password for your new email to auto-remember -- that combined with new browsers makes seeing your private emails difficult.
• WTF are you texting for? That's all retrievable and in the clear unless you use an encrypted text app (and you prolly won't). Stick to cloud-based services for communication and start memorizing usernames & passwords for manual entry.
• Use unique usernames & password for each app/service.
• Get rid of FB on your phone -- it tracks and logs all your phone calls.

 

[shriveldick]

do not have the wife issue but...

- install some virtualization software and run Whonix and route 100% of internet traffic through Tor; it protects cuz online trackers can identify you behind a VPN because odds are pretty high your browser fingerprint is pretty unique whereas with Tor, if used properly, everyone has the same browser fingerprint; unlike in real life viruses will probably be contained to the whonix instance so you can just delete and reinstall if infected; the os is password protected so you'll have a parallel, tor based operating system on top of Windows she can't access
Browser Fingerprinting: Explanation & Solutions (2019 Update)
- better yet, in a case where someone has access to your computer and funny software will result in an interrogation, boot Tails from a USB stick so there's no persistence on your hard drive and theres no sign of funny software installed that's going to raise questions
- if you insist on using Chrome on Windows 10 with extension a,b and c behind a VPN install a user-agent spoofer that doesn't track you and regularly change your user-agent profile (although if someone else is using your computer i suppose it could raise questions)
- very important not to use the same email address or username so accounts cant be linked or linked to your real identity (I once found a post from a buddy in high school who had posted on a small/obscure gaming forum that he was deeply concerned his 4-6 year old son was gay because he found him playing naked in the closet with some other boy based solely on the fact he had a nickname posted on his Facebook page); if she found a username she could potentially link it to other forums without knowing what forums/social media to look at
- strictly segment your online activity: this is my real life box, this is my im 65 (or 45) but i like having orgies with skinny, big tittied, hard-bodied 20 year olds box; if there's any cross-contamination immediately drop your im 65 but like 20 year olds box and create a new one (new username, new email address, all signed up for from different IP address, ideally using different operating systems if you're not using Tails); better yet, subsegment your i like 20 year old hardbodies i have a fake facebook account and it astounds me the number of dudes who appear to be using real accounts or fake accounts with real locations and publicly available, real pictures

 

[goodtogo1962]

Turn off gps on your phone. Google maps tracks locations and asks for reviews on places you visit.

 

[OG_funguy]

Repeating some advice and adding a bit more:

• get a VPN for your computers & phone.
• use Brave browser or DuckduckGo's
• stop using your regular email app & sync'ing. Get an alternate account.
• Don't set user name & password for your new email to auto-remember -- that combined with new browsers makes seeing your private emails difficult.
• WTF are you texting for? That's all retrievable and in the clear unless you use an encrypted text app (and you prolly won't). Stick to cloud-based services for communication and start memorizing usernames & passwords for manual entry.
• Use unique usernames & password for each app/service.
• Get rid of FB on your phone -- it tracks and logs all your phone calls.

Thanks, I actually do have NordVPN on my main computer (which I use for downloading) but I do most of my 'hobby' browsing on my laptop and a different computer in the basement. I'll have to check if I'm able to use NordVPN on multiple computers...

 

[OG_funguy]

do not have the wife issue but...

- install some virtualization software and run Whonix and route 100% of internet traffic through Tor; it protects cuz online trackers can identify you behind a VPN because odds are pretty high your browser fingerprint is pretty unique whereas with Tor, if used properly, everyone has the same browser fingerprint; unlike in real life viruses will probably be contained to the whonix instance so you can just delete and reinstall if infected; the os is password protected so you'll have a parallel, tor based operating system on top of Windows she can't access
Browser Fingerprinting: Explanation & Solutions (2019 Update)
- better yet, in a case where someone has access to your computer and funny software will result in an interrogation, boot Tails from a USB stick so there's no persistence on your hard drive and theres no sign of funny software installed that's going to raise questions
- if you insist on using Chrome on Windows 10 with extension a,b and c behind a VPN install a user-agent spoofer that doesn't track you and regularly change your user-agent profile (although if someone else is using your computer i suppose it could raise questions)
- very important not to use the same email address or username so accounts cant be linked or linked to your real identity (I once found a post from a buddy in high school who had posted on a small/obscure gaming forum that he was deeply concerned his 4-6 year old son was gay because he found him playing naked in the closet with some other boy based solely on the fact he had a nickname posted on his Facebook page); if she found a username she could potentially link it to other forums without knowing what forums/social media to look at
- strictly segment your online activity: this is my real life box, this is my im 65 (or 45) but i like having orgies with skinny, big tittied, hard-bodied 20 year olds box; if there's any cross-contamination immediately drop your im 65 but like 20 year olds box and create a new one (new username, new email address, all signed up for from different IP address, ideally using different operating systems if you're not using Tails); better yet, subsegment your i like 20 year old hardbodies i have a fake facebook account and it astounds me the number of dudes who appear to be using real accounts or fake accounts with real locations and publicly available, real pictures

Jesus, for a guy that doesn't have the wife/SO issue, you sure know a lot about covering your tracks LOL!

I'm afraid some of this stuff, like Virtualization etc. may be over my head though...

 

[Hangdai]

Hey, I do hotels (and cars) now! In fact, have another outing lined up this week...

We should start a car club?

Back seat banger boys- Toronto chapter.

 

[shriveldick]

Jesus, for a guy that doesn't have the wife/SO issue, you sure know a lot about covering your tracks LOL!

I'm afraid some of this stuff, like Virtualization etc. may be over my head though...

probably because i dont have a wife i have too much time on my hands

this stuff isn't complicated it just sounds complicated and requires a few extra steps.

if you want whonix you just 1) download/install virtual box which is free and no more complicated than downloading/installing a VPN client 2) download the whonix gateway file and the whonix workstation file which are also free 3) install the 2 files on virtual box which will probably require instructions (but is very easy and is like 6 clicks) 4) run the whonix gateway (where your Torified internet exits/enters) and then run the whonix workstation (which is where you run your browser from) both of which are point and click when they're installed

advantage: it's free, no registration or cash to disposable credit cards required, everything on your workstation is going through the tunnel (which might not always be the case with Tor browser or a VPN), Tor is probably better than a VPN, and it's very hard for viruses to infect your computer because they can't escape into your actual operating system, unlike tails a bit more permanent because the system is saved on a portion of your hard drive but it can still be deleted with a right click delete from virtual box

for Tails it's just download the file to a USB stick, when you turn on your computer just F12 when your system is booting up to get the boot menu, select boot from USB/CD from the menu and instead of booting into windows it'll automatically boot into (plug and play) the Tails os

advantage: it's free, in the case of wife everything you were doing is on the USB not the computer so you don't need to worry about cookies, internet history, saved passwords, bookmarks, notifications, ads for mexican midget dating showing up on you tube, etc, if you live boot it everytime you run it, its like your running a brand new copy for the first time, added bonus you can carry it around in your pocket and run it off of (in theory) any computer you want, usb stick is easier to hide than a burner laptop or you wouldn't need to be paranoid about her using your laptop

 

[OG_funguy]

probably because i dont have a wife i have too much time on my hands

this stuff isn't complicated it just sounds complicated and requires a few extra steps.

if you want whonix you just 1) download/install virtual box which is free and no more complicated than downloading/installing a VPN client 2) download the whonix gateway file and the whonix workstation file which are also free 3) install the 2 files on virtual box which will probably require instructions (but is very easy and is like 6 clicks) 4) run the whonix gateway (where your Torified internet exits/enters) and then run the whonix workstation (which is where you run your browser from) both of which are point and click when they're installed

advantage: it's free, no registration or cash to disposable credit cards required, everything on your workstation is going through the tunnel (which might not always be the case with Tor browser or a VPN), Tor is probably better than a VPN, and it's very hard for viruses to infect your computer because they can't escape into your actual operating system, unlike tails a bit more permanent because the system is saved on a portion of your hard drive but it can still be deleted with a right click delete from virtual box

for Tails it's just download the file to a USB stick, when you turn on your computer just F12 when your system is booting up to get the boot menu, select boot from USB/CD from the menu and instead of booting into windows it'll automatically boot into (plug and play) the Tails os

advantage: it's free, in the case of wife everything you were doing is on the USB not the computer so you don't need to worry about cookies, internet history, saved passwords, bookmarks, notifications, ads for mexican midget dating showing up on you tube, etc, if you live boot it everytime you run it, its like your running a brand new copy for the first time, added bonus you can carry it around in your pocket and run it off of (in theory) any computer you want, usb stick is easier to hide than a burner laptop or you wouldn't need to be paranoid about her using your laptop

Thanks, I'll give these a try. So you're saying whonix > Tor > VPN. What exactly are the shortfalls to using just VPN (like I mentioned, I have NordVPN already but only use for downloading)?

 

[exile]

Another thought.

Get rid of your Fitbit or similar apps/devices. Remove its ilk from your phone. You just do not want to have someone incidentally see your tracking map and go, "Why are you going up to Vic Park & Steeles?"

"Oh and look at that increase in heart rate."

 

[shriveldick]

Thanks, I'll give these a try. So you're saying whonix > Tor > VPN. What exactly are the shortfalls to using just VPN (like I mentioned, I have NordVPN already but only use for downloading)?

A lot of people don't like VPNs...they hide the sites you visit/when you visited them and other loggable info from your ISP if they don't leak DNS info, hide your location from the websites you visit (assuming you're not leaking info), limit the questionable ads you're going to get on your computer if you visit too many dating sites, spas, etc but they have problems

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Whonix uses Tor for its internet connection (im assuming it sucks for downloading) so anything you do on the system is forced through Tor. So wjhen you're using Whonix by default you're running Tor. i believe if you have a vpn on your host operating system, and you fire up your VPN before running whonix then Rogers/Bell will see the VPN, the website you visit will see Tor but your VPN will see the encrypted traffic entering and exiting the Tor network and going to you

 

[Dongo]

A lobotomy for your SO for Christmas is another option.

 

[spassky]

The phone is just one thing. Plus, like I said even with my older phones which are scattered throughout the house, you can still access things like email. Yeah, I can reset them all but it's a pain to load all the music again, install the apps, etc.

you kind of sound like you want to get caught. people give you sensible advise and you just come back with another excuse why nothing they suggest will work

 

[LazyBoy]

If it's getting to that point, then you are either getting careless or subconsciously want to get caught. If you have a Samsung, use the Secure Folder app. If you don't, there are other sand box type of apps you can use. Always use a VPN before signing into massage planet or other review sites. Always use private browser before visiting any provider sites. If you can't remember to do this all the time the prioritize getting the sandbox apps asap. For your computer, wipe your history, set up auto wipe if you can't get into the habit. Download Virtual Box and run some free Linux VMs and only use that for hobbying.

Simple steps to stay safe.

 

[RealBadman]

I don't have the wife problem but I do take a bunch of steps to cover my tracks when hobbying.

1. Use a burner number app like Burner or MySudo and turn notifications off.
2. Browse massageplanet, spa websites, and other related websites on TOR or with a VPN
3. Create a separate email address, preferably one with a provider you don't regularly use (i.e. use Yahoo if you normally use Gmail or Outlook)
4. Create anonymous Facebook/Twitter/Instagram accounts if you use social media for hobbying. Most girls seem to prefer Twitter, and I barely use twitter in real life.
5. Kind of obvious, but use a fake name when hobbying.
6. Turn off your GPS location tracking when going to a session. If you don't feel like driving use taxi instead of Uber, if taking transit pay cash instead of using Presto.
7. Lastly, dress differently from how you normally do when you go for a session. You never know who you're going to run into, and also helps reduce the likeliness any of the girls or receptionists will recognize you in public.

 

[IronBoss]

Sounds like a bunch of NOOB questions. If you want to cover your tracks, you need completely separate systems:

1. I don't trust burner app, just buy a cheap flip phone at 7-Eleven, then a SIM card, then buy $25 speakout top up. Pay cash for everything. Register your SIM card in a public library with a different email, not your personal one. Set a password for the flip phone. With a different phone, you don't have to worry about your texts and call log etc.

2. On your computer, use a separate browser for escort websites, I have both firefox and chrome, hide the whoring browser's shortcut in an obscure folder with a name that would fool most people, then change the shortcut icon, set it to auto delete history after closing.

3. Why use google cloud at all? I'm surprised people pay for that shit. I do my own data storage with USBs, no chance them being hacked when they're unplugged.

 

[jsmith]

1. I don't trust burner app, just buy a cheap flip phone at 7-Eleven, then a SIM card, then buy $25 speakout top up. Pay cash for everything. Register your SIM card in a public library with a different email, not your personal one. Set a password for the flip phone. With a different phone, you don't have to worry about your texts and call log etc.

You can no longer buy a cheap flip phone at 7-11. Right now the Speakout program offers only one model of phone for $80 (or $30) if you buy $100 of pre-paid airtime. Also need a SIM card.

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www.speakout7eleven.ca

But, the fact remains that you can still get a burner phone at 7-11.

 

[xtc27]

Sounds like a bunch of NOOB questions. If you want to cover your tracks, you need completely separate systems:

1. I don't trust burner app, just buy a cheap flip phone at 7-Eleven, then a SIM card, then buy $25 speakout top up. Pay cash for everything. Register your SIM card in a public library with a different email, not your personal one. Set a password for the flip phone. With a different phone, you don't have to worry about your texts and call log etc.

2. On your computer, use a separate browser for escort websites, I have both firefox and chrome, hide the whoring browser's shortcut in an obscure folder with a name that would fool most people, then change the shortcut icon, set it to auto delete history after closing.

3. Why use google cloud at all? I'm surprised people pay for that shit. I do my own data storage with USBs, no chance them being hacked when they're unplugged.

...trouble with separate phone is... u have a separate phone...WTF is that for?

... texts & call logs= in burner. Burner=encrypted.

Hide icon...if discovered geez, what's that?..., delete it like its not important... restore from backup, hide it better... plus my hobby @ fingertips.

...testosterone rush...dick needs TLC... what if yr damn ph is far away in its lil hiding place? Mr Burner always there to help...