in love with a bargirl... big question here

[Joanne]

Well that was entirely predictable.. In fact almost to the letter what many said.

And with all the rest of the miss guided crap.. The above line I agree with 100%.. Your simply not ready / have the right mindset for dealing with these girls yet..

 

[tom_terrific73]

Robert, you are such a cynical bastard! 555555..... :intello:

 

[future.mrs.mangum<3]

Has anyone ever known a Thai girl to lie? Doesn't sound very likely to me.

JJ

 

[Ruprect]

Usual story 1/2 BM's say she is bad, 1/4 say good, and other 1/4 go and have another drink. Relationships are a 1 to 1 situation and all different - I came to Patong, fell in love, with a cashier (not bothered if it makes a difference to a BG or not) and have had the best 2 years of my life. I was very dubious to start with, but the more i get to know my GF the less I worry about the past and look to the future. You have to make your own decisions and live with the consequences good or bad. Imagine dumping a beautiful honest Thai Girl cos someone said there all bad !!!

 

[mechmaster958]

Let me get out my pencil.....let's see......1,000 divided by 1 month(30 days)= 33 per day. :rules: Wow! A girl that industrious doesn't come along every day! He'd best grab her! :intello:

 

[jony]

If he had an ounce of sense he would see it..

Ohh and just for the record.. No one (especially a living here expat) pays 500 baht bar fine and 1000 baht for a kiss on the cheek in a disco..

 

[Drayak]

I love these posts of yours Rob. Grade A.

 

[Lord of the Flies]

I liked the guitar talk more....... :intello:

 

[marinebandwife]

You could try growing up for a start. She works in a bar for money but you don't pay her for the time you spend with her. You feel 'ripped off' that the new love of your life who works as a prostitute has slept with a lot of men!
She hasn't deceived you, or only to the extent you want to be. You have deceived her by falling in 'love' with a prostitute/not paying her for services rendered/leading her to believe you might save her from the bar girl life.
Now you are 'enlightened' don't take it out on her, your the one with the confused/confusing feelings. She just told you exactly what she wanted.

 

[Pompal 09.]

...I think you should be a man... go back to the bar.. and pay her for the time she has spent with you. She was so good, you fell in love. So she will be feeling "ripped off" about now as you have paid her nothing... so be a gentleman... thank her... and pay her... :rules:

 

[Maddy P]

5555 - Interesting idea... but my guitar can't clean and cook!

 

[marizel]

You young bucks make me laugh - as I tell my kids "you haven't done anything I haven't done 10 times more and 20 times better".
As I said - "grow up and get a life" - you must be very "up-yerself" if you think no-one else has lived the lie that you are ....55555555555 - funny man.
As for "never going through what you are" - get real sonny do you honestly think you're the only guy that thinks with his d*ck, jesus I've done it hundreds of times and have the scars to prove it ....55555555555

Thanks JayBee for telling him a little about my social life, something he will never attain the way he's going on I think - strange how some of these 'young-uns' post stupid threads on a public forum and then for some reason dont take any advice given them, and then get pi**ed off when they get put down .....!!!!!!!!!

 

[elphaba]

Ok, so you want to set up house with her!!!
For how long???? Do you intend to get a work permit and stay in Los??? Working as what (an English teacher???)??
Even if you had a 3 month visa to start with, it would only leave 2 months to "set up house " and then what???
You head back to Canada, leaving her to pay the rent from the wages of some menial job where she can't afford to go out and see her friends a couple of times a month??
Will you be prepared to send her money to live on while you are in Canada, not knowing what she is really doing while you are away( considering the line of work she was in when you met her!!)???
PAY HER THE GOING RATE FOR THE TIME SHE HAS SPENT WITH YOU, YOU TIGHTARSE!!!, then make up your mind as to what you want to do for the long term!!!

 

[Mc.Zee]

About asking how many guys she slept with...
1 :Have you always asked your previous girlfriends this question?
2 :What was their reaction?
3 id you always believe their answers?
Thai girls are no different to any other on this one.
A lot of experienced BM's have given you their honest opinions here LIL, LOS N1 and others.
Anyone with a bright future like you should care less about what is past.
She is 19, stunning, and she likes you. It's a no brainer.

One thing you will hear more often than not in Thailand "UP TO YOU".

 

[anatomyteacher01]

Haven't heard from OMG for a while, so perhaps everything that could be said has been said????

Whoops, perhaps it hasn't -- -- picking up a thread of some of these posts, reminds me of an Australian guy in his thirties who used to come over here quite frequently, however he was of the "I never pay for sex because I don't have to" brigade, and was very proud that he would leave his conquests without paying them anything. I tried to explain that this was not the done thing as the girls would have expected something for their work, but he was oblivious to this, full of himself and as tight as a duck's ****....... his whole attitude infuriated me, and I made it quite clear that I didn't want to be in his company (he was a friend of a mate of mine).

Never mind that, when I last saw him he still did not get it, that these girls are working girls and are not just waiting for a bronzed handsome? Australian from Melbourne to throw themselves at. It fell on deaf ears!!

Some people just do not get it.

 

[Musiclover]

Hmm... I sense a bit of sarcasm here... So then... I'm really NOT a handsum man?? :embrassed

 

[Aroused]

Ditch da *****... shes not a virgin.. all us good guys want a sweet and pure BG.

Not many left though.....

 

[asdf1234]

All this story reminds me so much of some nights I spent in Patong a few years back. Actually, I went through this whole rigamarole with one girl, then with another later that same tour. With the first one, like OMG, I liked the occasional night off from partying, and her bar was only about a 3 minute walk from my hotel. So we make plans for her to come after closing. She calls me 15 minutes before closing, and says she is coming. Then it's after two, she is on the way, but having a drink with a friend first, then, 30 minutes later, she is coming soon, then it is 4:00 and she is not answering the phone anymore. I was pissed and went out looking for her. Found her with some of her loser friends a few blocks away. A couple of Thai guys and a LB passing around a bottle of cheap whiskey, all of them too blottoed to even see straight. Her mind was way beyond being able to think about anything, like where she was supposed to be, or the fact that I might be pissed off. The next time it happened, I didn't even bother looking for her, and she called in the morning, all apologies and tears, and I took her back.

When she was sober, she was a nice girl, very sweet, not bad looking, and had a simply amazing body(fabulous tits, long, long legs), was about 23 yrs old. The next time I took a night off, she called at closing, and said she was on the way. I said OK, but if you don't show up, don't bother calling later. She didn't show, called in the morning again, but I didn't answer. She called that night, and said she was sorry, it would never happen again. I was with another girl, and told her that I liked her, but didn't want to see her again because she was a hopeless alcoholic. It actually hurt to let her go, but what choice did I have?

The girl I took up with after that one, was very feisty, crazy, and not as sweet. Not as good-looking, either, and extremely jealous, but great in the sack. She pulled the same disappearing act on me several times. At the time, I thought maybe she was with other guys. But after having really gotten to know her, and thinking about everything that happened, my conclusion was that she was probably partying with Thai guys the times she disappeared, and that sex or money had nothing to do with it.

Because there is something about when they get together with their homeboys and homegirls, and the whiskey is flowing. They just kind of merge into some kind of group consciousness, and seem to lose their self-control. They don't have the willpower to break away from the group.

I have never been a whiskey drinker myself, but I have seen the effect of Scotch whiskey on some of these young girls. The only thing I can compare it to is the effect of heroin or cocaine. I can remember times when I was young, and hanging out with the guys and maybe I was supposed to be hooking up with my GF, or going home to my wife, when we would be sitting around a table doing lines of coke, and there was just that group vibe of feeling good, kind of cruising, kind of an escape from all the pressures of life, the feeling that all the shit that happened yesterday doesn't matter any more, a great sense of relief, and the feeling that tomorrow is a long, long way off, so no worries there, either. It is a feeling a time being suspended, and the relief from anxiety, and the good feelings of friendship shared are so strong, that you can't break away, and you just put all your responsibilities on the back burner, and the moment feels too good to go.

Then at some point, you just crash, lose consciuosness, and then wake up the next morning, going, "oh, oh, WTF?" I don't think that it is about money or sex. I think it is about being part of a group that shares common experiences, feelings, culture, and values. It's about partying, and purging anxiety, and pain. About connecting with your peers in a way that you really can only do with them.

Of course, I could be totally wrong. But if she was with a farang, I don't think the back and forth messaging would have gone on as long as it did. When they get that drunk, it is not usually about the money any more.

 

[Frizz]

Why did the neck have a crack? Were you using very high gauge strings in ‘extreme’ or harsh climates? usually the Ovations suffer top crackings. Usually only in the finish due to the inconsistencies and stresses between the wood and the plastic bodies (at least in the cheaper models). I always wanted an ovation al dimeola sig Ovation when I was younger but could never afford one, and whenever I found one used they were always in bad condition with finish cracks all over the tops.

if I was still into ovations id buy al dimeola sig tomorrow without blinking. the youngling in me at the time had no idea at the time what a good guitar sounded like I think the high end Takamines are very good value for money for the tones you can get, and that would probably be my next steel strung acoustic. my next electric will be a Suhr modern-24

 

[Pompal 09.]

exactly what 1904 says
if you are going to be living in Phuket, then just see what happens, like any other relationship
although i wouldn't just have a girl i know for only 1 week uproot herself and move in, just brings too much pressure on you. her life would end up revolving around you

why don't you just play it by ear. if she works in the bar just for drinks, ler her continue to do so while you figure out where the relationship is going

then if you plan on making it full time, get her to do something with her life. at 19, she shouldn't be just laying around doing nothing