Chat IS "THE BLOOM OFF THE ROSE" for the Semi-Legit MPs Like Bellagio and Ellegance

[superdick]

OR IS IT JUST ME .....

LATELY I MY ENTHUSIASM / MOJO / INTEREST in visiting certain well known Spas HAS SIGNIFICANTLY decreased :

• over-hyped spas and attendants. More about the hype than the service. Kind a get boring and redundant reading long drawn out threads that is basically "small or smack talk"
• promoters/ known reviewers getting and creating more of a ***star persona*** than the actual spa and mpas. Could be just the promo spiel but sound more like ego talk.
• recycled same old attendants at the more established spas. Change their name......and good to go. ie "Angela is well reviewed _______ from a spa in Timbuktoo". Then you visit and find out Angela is actually Vicky you saw 2 days ago.
• to add to my first point .........ymmv is always quoted to justify variations or discrepancies, disappointment in service. ......Or the promoters/ reviewers /shills will say "you can get same service as me if you were charming, funny or do A+B+C"​

OR IT MIGHT BE SEASONAL.

My advise to hobbyist like myself is to also check out some of the less promoted spas. There are some gems to be found (mpas) who prefer a low profile. You get good service in a more relaxed environment.

I will eventually get back to the Bellagios and Ellegances of the massage world in due time.

 

[TheWhiteShadow]

OR IS IT JUST ME .....

LATELY I MY ENTHUSIASM / MOJO / INTEREST in visiting certain well known Spas HAS SIGNIFICANTLY decreased :

• over-hyped spas and attendants. More about the hype than the service. Kind a get boring and redundant reading long drawn out threads that is basically "small or smack talk"
• promoters/ known reviewers getting and creating more of a ***star persona*** than the actual spa and mpas. Could be just the promo spiel but sound more like ego talk.
• recycled same old attendants at the more established spas. Change their name......and good to go. ie "Angela is well reviewed _______ from a spa in Timbuktoo". Then you visit and find out Angela is actually Vicky you saw 2 days ago.
• to add to my first point .........ymmv is always quoted to justify variations or discrepancies, disappointment in service. ......Or the promoters/ reviewers /shills will say "you can get same service as me if you were charming, funny or do A+B+C"​

OR IT MIGHT BE SEASONAL.

My advise to hobbyist like myself is to also check out some of the less promoted spas. There are some gems to be found (mpas) who prefer a low profile. You get good service in a more relaxed environment.

I will eventually get back to the Bellagios and Ellegances of the massage world in due time.

 

[superdick]

Cheers.

 

[Buaya]

Promotors, paid or unpaid have a ego problem. They want to show that they are 1) Helping to drum up business as only they know how. 2) They get- like OP said a lot more then us little folks.

When called out, of course we are the bad ones. YMMV they say, we are ungrateful, bad tippers, unclean etc.

Also, it seems they also feel ONLY they know the Spa business. They do not realize that their whole world revolves around the MPA and in some cases the few owners.

 

[xtc27]

OR IS IT JUST ME .....

LATELY I MY ENTHUSIASM / MOJO / INTEREST in visiting certain well known Spas HAS SIGNIFICANTLY decreased :

• over-hyped spas and attendants. More about the hype than the service. Kind a get boring and redundant reading long drawn out threads that is basically "small or smack talk"
• promoters/ known reviewers getting and creating more of a ***star persona*** than the actual spa and mpas. Could be just the promo spiel but sound more like ego talk.
• recycled same old attendants at the more established spas. Change their name......and good to go. ie "Angela is well reviewed _______ from a spa in Timbuktoo". Then you visit and find out Angela is actually Vicky you saw 2 days ago.
• to add to my first point .........ymmv is always quoted to justify variations or discrepancies, disappointment in service. ......Or the promoters/ reviewers /shills will say "you can get same service as me if you were charming, funny or do A+B+C"​

OR IT MIGHT BE SEASONAL.

My advise to hobbyist like myself is to also check out some of the less promoted spas. There are some gems to be found (mpas) who prefer a low profile. You get good service in a more relaxed environment.

I will eventually get back to the Bellagios and Ellegances of the massage world in due time.

So, not trying 2 say Ellagance deserves yer disappointmnt…

But Bellagio?

Whose recycled?

• ok, Lucy’s not new… but Bellagio hardly hid that… i gotta tell ya, allot more fun now shes free
• Cecelia? Suki @ another spa, but not well known… briefly @ Dahlia
• Jennifer & Kelly = brand new
• Angela & Lisa & Amanda… ok, best of my knowledge, legit massage girls, mebbe did a few HE & decided, why not?
• Alyssa… like gals above except shes pretty new 2 msg, even legit kind
• Bianca part timer, was Bianca @ Dahlia when they were trying 2 go semilegit
• Jessica, new 2 Toronto… not recycled

… the owners (rumoured 2b legit msg chain) emphasize gals who can do real massage , 90 min or 2 hrs… but ok w HE or other fun… Lucy told me plainly, most semilegit gals cant hack it here… they wanna do hh, get the dude off & get their tips… she even called out some former colleagues by name, & said, “those girls gonna DIE if they do 3 times 2hr massage seshes… Amanda just did 3 today!”

They really want client 2 have relax no rush time, enjoy free ts, develop rapport w girls…very different kinda spa…

So, Ellagance, gal has 4 clients… hh each… made $40 rm fee & say $60 tp $80 per… $280 apptx… $320… & sat around 10 hrs

OTOH, Bellagio, girl has 4 clients… 2 hrs each… made $240 rm fee (gets 1/2) plus same $280 apprx… $520… shes pretty happy, & only sitting around 4 hrs in that 12 hr day… & clients feel connectxn w mpa…

Its very different place…

… but hey, I dunno every gal in T.O., mebbe they got some recycled gals there…

 

[Buaya]

From what I see every time I go to Ellagance they are busy. If I do not make a booking most likely I will not get the MPA I want. I doubt the girls there only get 4 bookings a day. I would guesstimate at least 6.

I see the same ones on the roster posted and if Ellagance is not busy and they do not make the money they want, they will walk. I do not have privvy to their booking rooster so cannot confirm either way.

@xtc27 . You, on the other hand seems to have the inside track on Bellagio and I am sure your numbers are correct. Do most the the clients there book 2 hours at a time?

As far as recycled gals, I am sure the good ones are recycled and at the minimum work at 2 spas. Do we want to see new girls all the time. Unless the Spa owners are good at training the new girls, they can be a disappointment.

I am not going to lie. I am not going to have an inexperienced girl for my session, be it a massage or the fun part.

 

[xtc27]

From what I see every time I go to Ellagance they are busy. If I do not make a booking most likely I will not get the MPA I want. I doubt the girls there only get 4 bookings a day. I would guesstimate at least 6.

I see the same ones on the roster posted and if Ellagance is not busy and they do not make the money they want, they will walk. I do not have privvy to their booking rooster so cannot confirm either way.

You, on the other hand seems to have the inside track on Bellagio and I am sure your numbers are correct. Do most the the clients there book 2 hours at a time?

As far as recycled gals, I am sure the good ones are recycled and at the minimum work at 2 spas. Do we want to see new girls all the time. Unless the Spa owners are good at training the new girls, they can be a disappointment.

I am not going to lie. I am not going to have an inexperienced girl for my session, be it a massage or the fun part.

… 2b clear, not saying either spa has 4 clients/day… thats a slow day… I just took example of a slow day 2 show the math how it makes less difference @ Bellagio…

Not all sesh @ Bellagio = 2 hrs, but allot are … most RMTs cost about $ hr & up, so getting 2hr quality msg & table shower @ $120 = very gd deal.

… not saying anything negative re Ellagance… I dont share a negative impression of them... lots pretty gals, cooperative on funstuffs & gd @ msg… Im unlikely 2 recognize them f / elsewhere since I dont hobby 5 days a wk

But most of them couldnt handle 2 hr seshes @ Bellagio… Lucy doesnt bother trying 2 recruit gals f/ semilegit spas 4 that reason… legit msg gals tho, theyre very happy… Alyssa had 4 clients on her 1st day when I saw her, kinda avg 4 semilegit by 2pm, all fairly long seshes (1hr+) … Im 1st one got her nude, other guys didnt even ask… seems so sad 2me, they missed a gr8 show…