Looking for an advice to get my head straight)

[JEG]

That in essence is the issue here. You HAVE to remember at the end of the day it's a business transaction. Your money is what's most important to the SP/MPA, even if they do genuinely like you and you have sexual chemistry. Take this for what it's worth. I've been seeing SW's for about 8 years now. I've been around the block a few times. I've dated 2 strippers and 2 MPA's during that time. Not once did any of those relationships end well. It just doesn't work. Don't put yourself through the pain and stress. Enjoy the experiences as a fantasy. But still date civilian women, or else it will ruin you. When I date civilian women the first thing I think about is how well she sucks cock and whether her pussy is shaved. This hobby has objectified women to me. It will do that to you as well the longer you stay in it.

35+ years for me..... too late... but save yourself. lol

I do disagree with the last two post in the sense that it isn't either or, there are diamonds in the rough and there are some really worthless civie girls. We all make choices in life, make the right choices for yourself that make you happy.

 

[imyourpuppet]

Hey guys...

Don't forget we (attendants) are human too. We also have feelings and sometimes we can't separate them either.

The same thing I said about us goes for you ladies as well. Don't get personally involved with the client. You actually have more to lose. Let's say you date a client/former client outside of the spa and it doesn't work and you break it off. There's the chance that client can out you to your family as revenge. It's happened several times that I know of. If your family knows what you do that's fine but most ladies in this biz are operating incognito.

 

[topo112]

It's better to follow Tony Soprano's advice : don't shit where you eat!!!

 

[Hank]

Lots of people coming out of the wood works and giving out great advice and experience!!

Thanks!! All through I'm not the OP but good to hear as om going through the same issue

H

 

[krayjee]

I hate when you realize this

haha..this is the song my MPA girlfriend Russian specialist Korean Victoria loved to play all the time.

 

[daniella.perla]

The same thing I said about us goes for you ladies as well. Don't get personally involved with the client. You actually have more to lose. Let's say you date a client/former client outside of the spa and it doesn't work and you break it off. There's the chance that client can out you to your family as revenge. It's happened several times that I know of. If your family knows what you do that's fine but most ladies in this biz are operating incognito.

I had my heart broken many times but I still believe in love, and It can happen anywhere.
Kazanova.... listen to your heart.

 

[playfulfun]

Call her arrange a meet away from the spa and express how you feel. You might be surprised by her.

 

[JEG]

I had my heart broken many times but I still believe in love, and It can happen anywhere.
Kazanova.... listen to your heart.

Here darlin'

 

[JEG]

The same thing I said about us goes for you ladies as well. Don't get personally involved with the client. You actually have more to lose. Let's say you date a client/former client outside of the spa and it doesn't work and you break it off. There's the chance that client can out you to your family as revenge. It's happened several times that I know of. If your family knows what you do that's fine but most ladies in this biz are operating incognito.

I remember the last words she said to me 3 years ago. "Fuck off" and "I'm having you charged today", that was right after I asked her for her lawyer's contact info... the rest is well... still ongoing.

 

[Hank]

Kazanova,

Do you know if she has a bf/husband or kids to support? Sometimes we live in our own bubble during our mpa session and you think she is the one.

All mpa get into it for the $$$ but for reasons such as to support family, school, debt. Since you stated she is Asian, it could be for family back home or kids being single mom. Just be aware of that

H

 

[Freshy1]

Kazanova,


You asked for advice, I would like to share mine. I made an account just for this and will delete my account soon after. If you may have any other questions, or anyone else for that matter, you can PM me. I will keep it up for 1 day. You can message me as long as it doesn't discuss my personal life. I’ve been a lurker for a very long time and read almost all the reviews and know this forum inside and out. I am not a professional in this game, never went to the premier chain for example; Just know I am professional in life, and know to not play it further after today… I have long ago in the past, for a brief time in my life, dabbled in this game just enough to not experience what you are experiencing, but understand what it is entirely from those experiences. I know where playing this game ultimately leads too.. Destruction. Let’s just say there was a deeper reason why you decided to create this message and ask for advice. I needed to see this too and had to respond.


To be blunt, and to the point… You need to stop seeing her… Immediately. Avoid her like the plague. Find a good girl, with morals, meek in speech and action, A girl who will love you and only you, forever and show that passion in public and behind closed doors. When you find her, you will become not two people but one person. Find one you know will always be by your side. Your life will be one filled with happiness and good things if you do so. You will find her if you know who YOU must be as a person first and fore-most. Chase wisdom before chasing girls and the one girl worth more than all of them will enter into your life in due time. Guaranteed.


If you don’t want to read further that’s what you need to do, but I am sure maybe something might resonate if you continue further.


Woman generally think with their emotions and not rational, logical reasoning to come to conclusions. That girl you went on a date with read you like a book because she, and virtually every woman know how to play with emotions because they are emotional persons generally. It’s rare for men to what she did because we are different persons entirely, thinking with rational and logic, but have some emotions at moments in time (Love, death, life etc.). Woman love to exploit this fact because when men become very emotional, they become it entirely in certain moments. Which is what you experienced when you said ‘pure energy’. ( I am not a woman hater I love woman, a-lot...)


These small talks you are experiencing aren’t simply small talks. Those ‘small talks’ are trying to pull you in until you dig a deep, dark, hole/pit/grave that you will never be able to get out of.


You are asking what is wrong with you, there is nothing wrong with you. What you are involving yourself with is wrong… You deep down know it is pulling at your soul.


You are saying you don’t care for the sex, but only want to see her… It is a trap bro don’t do it. You are unsure whether or not to see her because you do not know exactly who she is… She isn’t just a beautiful woman, but something else entirely if you have the eyes to see and ears to hear. Those girls there are very cold-stone business people you are correct. Colder than dry ice. I know this as well because I am in business and dealt, and continue to deal with the coldest stone people imaginable in my short time being in it.. You may not want to hear it and I’ll probably get ripped apart here but I’d like to say exactly who that premier chain girl is through a quote not made by my own accord….


“the lips of an adulterous woman drip honey, and her speech is smoother than oil; flatters with her words and lips she seduces thee, but in the end she is bitter as gall, sharp as a double-edged sword. Her feet go down to death; her steps lead straight to the grave. She gives no thought to the way of life; her paths wander aimlessly but she does not know it.”


To be completely honest, briefly mentioning my personal life.. I don’t consider myself pretty -good looking. I know I am very good looking because woman just generally like to tell me that, all the time. I Get compared to celebrities and such as well. Till this day, since even High-school I’ve been called the foreign guy, tanned skin with the muscles seen in the movies that all the woman young and old love to flock too. Even dudes have tried hitting on me and I’m not even homosexual. Even when I was very young, woman knew I was going to be very good-looking and told that to my parents and to myself. I kid you not when I was an infant even, some girl that saw me (family friend at the time) was already down to marry me…. I’m 23 years old by the way. Not only that, but I’m also in a position where I won’t feel $250 poorer even if I decided to go to premier virtually every day of the week.. It’s because the rich simply keep on getting richer. It is just the family I was born into allows for that. I am already in a position where I’ll never have to work for anyone in my life ever again and I am already set for life. Don’t even have to work now if I don’t want to.


I would like to apologize to anyone that may see this offensive in any way. I apologize for any spelling or grammatical issues this message may have. All I’m saying is the truth and I hope, just maybe someone can take something from this. Most specifically you Kazanova.


I wish all the best and take care to all those reading this.

You are describing 99% of the mpas at premier so we dont know who you are referring to in your quote. Are you sure you havent been on the site before? Some one else described them selves as good looking and deep pockets,never having to work a day in their life, about a year ago

 

[newtothis82]

I had my heart broken many times but I still believe in love, and It can happen anywhere.
Kazanova.... listen to your heart.

Daniella you are sweet and a pro..but I'm shocked that ur promoting this. It's not love, it's infatuation...the idea that you can have a sensual session maybe once a week with a beauty. And you don't have to deal with any of the real world issues that u would in a normal relationship. The spa is not for relationships so I don't think you should be promoting this to th OP

 

[JEG]

Daniella you are sweet and a pro..but I'm shocked that ur promoting this. It's not love, it's infatuation...the idea that you can have a sensual session maybe once a week with a beauty. And you don't have to deal with any of the real world issues that u would in a normal relationship. The spa is not for relationships so I don't think you should be promoting this to th OP

I agree, that is why I always say that it must be outside of the spa, which has now become off limits to you. Feelings can, and do happen in the spa, but love can only happen outside of it. I remember Sophie ex SRM, when she met her future husband told him that she would not do any sessions with him, I assume it was after she played with his pee pee and realized that she had deep feelings for him.

 

[playfulfun]

Temporary 123

You tell him
"Find a good girl, with morals, meek in speech and action, A girl who will love you and only you, forever and show that passion in public and behind closed doors."
So are you telling me that a girl who does not work in a spa has better morals than a girl who does and if that is your synopsis then that would also apply to men who go to spas. Your thinking comes right out of the 19th century. If he is in love with her and she with him they will only find out by meeting outside the spa. We all need to let these 2 people figure this out for themselves and stop putting our bias into it. If they are to be together only they can figure that out. Love will find a way.

 

[krayjee]

I had my heart broken many times but I still believe in love, and It can happen anywhere.
Kazanova.... listen to your heart.

Wrong advice. You will be completely fucked if you listen to your heart and your little head in this industry.

Kazanova,

Do you know if she has a bf/husband or kids to support? Sometimes we live in our own bubble during our mpa session and you think she is the one.

All mpa get into it for the $$$ but for reasons such as to support family, school, debt. Since you stated she is Asian, it could be for family back home or kids being single mom. Just be aware of that

H

Well said. Most of them have BFs, husbands and kids. Almost all the girls I have dated have BFs, husbands and kids. Some are honest and they will tell you upfront but some will hide it and milk you as much as they can. Never ever try to rescue a girl in this business. I had done that with 3 of them and it never works and never ended well. One even stabbed me back in my back.

 

[temporary123]

You are describing 99% of the mpas at premier so we dont know who you are referring to in your quote. Are you sure you havent been on the site before? Some one else described them selves as good looking and deep pockets,never having to work a day in their life, about a year ago

You are describing 99% of the mpas at premier so we dont know who you are referring to in your quote. Are you sure you havent been on the site before? Some one else described them selves as good looking and deep pockets,never having to work a day in their life, about a year ago

I mentioned I've been a lurker for a very long time on this website so Ive been on the website, I'd binge read this forum all the time, trying to know exactly who I should choose as an attendant, most specifically from the Premier Chain. I was very tempted and was 100% down to experience the Premier Chain which is unique compared to holisitic spas, and virtually every other spa. I was actually planning for a trip to see either Adrianna or Kelly today.. But I knew if I went what happened to Kazanova could potentially happen to me. I was seriously battling with that yesterday. I was surprised after lurking every day to see a post like this. It was the right place and time to make an account for the first time. Im not Massagecreep, Rachet, Slag etc. Just a dude who wanted to say some two cents and come out the 'Massage planet' closet. Plus those other accounts the guys grammar and all that was pretty bad. Read up on all that drama was quite entertaining how some people can be that crazy. I can promise its my first account and gonna delete it today, and what I said there is true just trying to walk on the right path.

 

[temporary123]

I mentioned I've been a lurker for a very long time on this website so Ive been on the website, I'd binge read this forum all the time, trying to know exactly who I should choose as an attendant, most specifically from the Premier Chain. I was very tempted and was 100% down to experience the Premier Chain which is unique compared to holisitic spas, and virtually every other spa. I was actually planning for a trip to see either Adrianna or Kelly today.. But I knew if I went what happened to Kazanova could potentially happen to me. I was seriously battling with that yesterday. I was surprised after lurking every day to see a post like this. It was the right place and time to make an account for the first time. Im not Massagecreep, Rachet, Slag etc. Just a dude who wanted to say some two cents and come out the 'Massage planet' closet. Plus those other accounts the guys grammar and all that was pretty bad. Read up on all that drama was quite entertaining how some people can be that crazy. I can promise its my first account and gonna delete it today, and what I said there is true just trying to walk on the right path.

I'd actually say I'm describing 99.999999999998%, not all of them. There are of-course those that seriously have no other options for earning a income, which is fine, I know this is the oldest profession. There are very, very few who can fully detach themselves from the life-style and are in-fact diamonds in the rough. It will always be part of an attendant even after she leaves the profession. Habits are what defines a person. If you are good at lying, (not even saying their true name) then thats what an attendant will become if she isn't already. A liar, not a good person to be around, I've been snaked many times by liars, and I'm not saying I never lied, I just don't want to be one anymore and live a double life.

 

[daniella.perla]

Well... I am 100% sure he is gonna listen to what I said.

 

[temporary123]

Temporary 123

You tell him
"Find a good girl, with morals, meek in speech and action, A girl who will love you and only you, forever and show that passion in public and behind closed doors."
So are you telling me that a girl who does not work in a spa has better morals than a girl who does and if that is your synopsis then that would also apply to men who go to spas. Your thinking comes right out of the 19th century. If he is in love with her and she with him they will only find out by meeting outside the spa. We all need to let these 2 people figure this out for themselves and stop putting our bias into it. If they are to be together only they can figure that out. Love will find a way.

I mentioned To Freshy 1 that I'm not describing all of them

Temporary 123

You tell him
"Find a good girl, with morals, meek in speech and action, A girl who will love you and only you, forever and show that passion in public and behind closed doors."
So are you telling me that a girl who does not work in a spa has better morals than a girl who does and if that is your synopsis then that would also apply to men who go to spas. Your thinking comes right out of the 19th century. If he is in love with her and she with him they will only find out by meeting outside the spa. We all need to let these 2 people figure this out for themselves and stop putting our bias into it. If they are to be together only they can figure that out. Love will find a way.

I believe there are woman out there that have better morals then almost all attendants that partake in the profession. There are woman out there that Love one man and keep by his side through thick and thin, never lie, Treats others as they'd want to be treated etc. thats definitely the case. Do I simply state all attendants are like how I described them, no..

As I answered Freshy, there are very very few that still are good people deep down inside and have absolutely no other options to be working in a place such as spas that provide services other than massages. They know that they want to find truth and live a good life to be an example for others around them. A good example are attendants who have kids. Some have no other option to work in Spas and know they want to live a good life eventually so they can be an example for their kids so they never have to live the life she did.

It is my Synopsis that.. IF you are in-fact married, have children, and choosing to live a double life and loving other woman behind your wife's back, you are headed to where the same place most attendant are headed, s well as Liars, murderers etc. Your favourite attendant will just be leading the way for you.

To be honest it isn't thinking from the 19th century. People are simply defined not by there personality or what they speak, but by their habits. If someone is good at lying, continues to do so.. They will simply be a Liar... Are you comfortable to be around someone like that? Especially in a very vulnerable situation such as the experience which the premier chain offers? I've just been burned by liars is all and wouldn't be down to allow one to be around me in general, not saying I never lied, but trying to not do it anymore.

Lets be honest, You know in most cases meeting outside is a fantasy and it can be easily be proven that an attendant tries to pull you in deeper when she does that. You are right love finds a way.. But that love is blinded and unclear because Money and a transaction is involved not allowing for both parties to understand if they both feel the same way... They'll just be running in circles thinking IF, or MAYBE. ultimately leading to loosing oneself in passion that will never be truly satisfied.

Almost all attendants are basically fisherman. Its like in fishing when you don't simply throw the hook in the lake and just sit their you yank on the line a bit so the fish can eventually trust it isn't a trap and then take the bait..

The point is you can't really know if an attendants feelings are true and the only way they could prove that is by dropping everything they ever knew, and loving the other person entirely.

 

[Hank]

I mentioned To Freshy 1 that I'm not describing all of them


I believe there are woman out there that have better morals then almost all attendants that partake in the profession. There are woman out there that Love one man and keep by his side through thick and thin, never lie, Treats others as they'd want to be treated etc. thats definitely the case. Do I simply state all attendants are like how I described them, no..

As I answered Freshy, there are very very few that still are good people deep down inside and have absolutely no other options to be working in a place such as spas that provide services other than massages. They know that they want to find truth and live a good life to be an example for others around them. A good example are attendants who have kids. Some have no other option to work in Spas and know they want to live a good life eventually so they can be an example for their kids so they never have to live the life she did.

It is my Synopsis that.. IF you are in-fact married, have children, and choosing to live a double life and loving other woman behind your wife's back, you are headed to where the same place most attendant are headed, s well as Liars, murderers etc. Your favourite attendant will just be leading the way for you.

To be honest it isn't thinking from the 19th century. People are simply defined not by there personality or what they speak, but by their habits. If someone is good at lying, continues to do so.. They will simply be a Liar... Are you comfortable to be around someone like that? Especially in a very vulnerable situation such as the experience which the premier chain offers? I've just been burned by liars is all and wouldn't be down to allow one to be around me in general, not saying I never lied, but trying to not do it anymore.

Lets be honest, You know in most cases meeting outside is a fantasy and it can be easily be proven that an attendant tries to pull you in deeper when she does that. You are right love finds a way.. But that love is blinded and unclear because Money and a transaction is involved not allowing for both parties to understand if they both feel the same way... They'll just be running in circles thinking IF, or MAYBE. ultimately leading to loosing oneself in passion that will never be truly satisfied.

Almost all attendants are basically fisherman. Its like in fishing when you don't simply throw the hook in the lake and just sit their you yank on the line a bit so the fish can eventually trust it isn't a trap and then take the bait..

The point is you can't really know if an attendants feelings are true and the only way they could prove that is by dropping everything they ever knew, and loving the other person entirely.

Those are some deep articulate thoughts showing the complexity of diving into mpa relationships..

Kazanova, you received a lot of good pointers on here today..

Do what you got to do but keep us posted