MA's views

[Nuala]

This genlemen is my first posting...I just felt an incredible urge to post my opinions from the MA's point of view...and i do speak for some of my fellow co-workers as their input is also in this thread. This board is a wonderful tool as it can save time, travel, and money on extremely poor MP's. But myself and others would like to make some comments. I have personally read back about 6 months of reviews good and bad so i think i am educated enough to make my statements. There is no such thing as a perfect MA. I have many regulars who have given charming and well written reviews so I thank you. There are also the bad though and sometimes they hurt. Your individual comments about the appearence of a specific MA are unneccessary. Because they are simply that individual. We are woman and we do have feelings so please dont poor salt in the wounds. We are our own worst criticts and we know our flaws. Thank you. We too read the boards but remain in silence.
I have seen so many reviews that clearly state not every MA is perfectly suited for every client. (I would like to add that if we were you would know that it was nothing more than a well trained actress you just paid for.) So with all clients knowing this bad reviews should all be posted with more taste, class, and tact. (Don't get me we wrong some are.) When the reviews are lashing they leave a mark bigger than any whip imaginable. I know from experience that one of my bad reviews cost me mentally and financially. Do you have any idea how it is to go to work the day after reading a poorly written review of yourself? How can we smile when the client is standing in front of us? We ask ourselves (if you dont choose me) is this him the one that wrote the review? Should I smile harder? Should I become the actress that i detest?....When the next client stays with me should I allow him to do something i dont want so i wont have to see a bad review?
I don't want to scroll through the threads again so please excuse me if the quote is not exact but some one posted "A first experience with an MA isnt always the best they dont know you and are sometimes reserved" This is one of the best things I have found ever posted on this board and the most useful. Please gentlemen take this into consideration before the review.
When you are new in my room you are a little reserved as well so I (we) all ask ourselves undercover cop?...going to ask for BJ?...going to ask for FS?...will he listen when I say I really dont like that and not get offened?...etc
We are also as nervous as you. With new clients there are high expectations to meet at every MP. Expectaions from you. So please genlemen be gracious and give the girl a second chance (if she meets your needs in looks and technique somewhat) this is only the first session and i know from my own experience that the second time around is always better for me because the tension ....what tension????? Have fun at play boys the limitions are endless for regulars
Please excuse any speeling errors i am not the greatest typist

 

[Ashleigh]

As an MPA, if you are that sensitive to reviews, then I recommend you not read teh review boards. Otherwise, it can be a resoruce for you to improve your service and attract more customers so long as you can take the heat.

As for describing looks, everybody's taste is different, but a description of how an attendat looks is a necessary part of the review. It's all part of the package. The same goes for personality and service. Glossing over bad points doesn't help anybody.

 

[5204]

thanks for your comments.
I think a lot of us on here are respectful of the girl's wishes -- and some of us, for example, don't post anything if the girl asks us not to.
I know that repeat visits do help get you to feel more comfortable with your client (and vice versa) -- but on the other hand, that first visit is so important to make the "right impression". So I think it is reasonable to expect good service from the first visit. It's not like they are so cheap either, that you can just do repeat visits with every girl to give her a chance. I think a lot of us depend on that first visit to make the right impression, and then we give a review of that , and also repeat based on that .
(Now, if you were having 2-for-1 sales -- that would guarantee a repeat visit! :->)

 

[Miss. Weasley]

It is very difficult to write a tactful negative review that doesnt hurt someone's feelings. When you get right down to it, we all want to be loved and appreciated. I think we (as the clients) would be alot more polite and judicious in our criticism if we also had to be subjected to the same public evaluations of our looks and performance (yikes!).

But the boards do serve a purpose if used properly. Dont forget that 90% of the people on here are decent, honest guys just tryng to find a good match and a great value. Unfortunately it is the overly vocal 10% acting as massageplanet.net snipers who taint this forum.... waiting for any chance to take a shot at a provider or fellow poster.

My advice is to consider the source when you read a negative review.... what is the poster's history, is his account of the session slanted or incomplete, did he even SEE you, etc. Focus on giving great sessions within your own limits, be honest with yourself and your clients, and approach each new person with the attitude of "what can i do to make this person a regular".

Just my 2 cents.

 

[Darin H]

If you dont like what you read, dont read it. As for second chances, you have got to be kidding me. There is so many girls out there why would anybody waste there money going back to a bad mpa. I am sure service does get better over time but time is money. A review board is for good and bad reviews, if it were all good reviews it would be useless.

 

[Quentin W]

Unfortunately, there's not much way around it. Some "gentlemen" are such; others evidently are not. Note that the other Toronto "forum" is entitled "Men Behaving Badly," which is probably a useful phrase to keep in mind.

When the "hounds" are searching for the perfect breasts, anything less is going to get discarded, and insulting or not, that's going to happen. "She's got bigger breasts; that's who I'll pick!"

Stuffing your costume is counterproductive; that just leads to the "I wuz robbed!!!" reaction, which no doubt is worse still.



Consider that the "perfect" experience would seem likely to involve:Improbably large sculpted breastsLow pricingEnthusiastically pretending wondrous sexual frenzyIdeally, extensive free extras ($20 for a BJ, $40 for FS)
Having high expectations for "discreet" commentary leaves you doomed to failure...



And some most certainly aren't.



There's a given that there's some need to be "actress." Indeed, it may be more than just some need.

If you're not feeling enthusiastic, and can't pretend, you're probably in the wrong place. (Maybe you'd need to move into a more "Dominatrix-like", and that's a partly serious suggestion.)



Evidently not the best fingers in the world Just kidding!

 

[Am_I a_Beatlesfan??]

...reviews are just that...a review of an experience by an individual...this board brings many individuals from all kinds of backgrounds and ideals...how they interpret an experience and express it is all up to them...what may be vulgar or distasteful to you may be the norm for someone else...

YOU work in an industry based on looks and service...if you cover those criteria you will be successful...if not sorry...No one is perfect so don't feel bad...you need to do what makes sense to you...if you are uncomfortable...then maybe this business isn't for you...

Lastly, this is a community of people...should we let attendants, parlours or clients get away with ripping off one another...I think not...Nothing here is written in stone or the absolute truth...but if many people have the same experience...is there no truth to that???

this IS part of your industry...get used to it....

 

[Jenine J]

BSangel

I agree, some of the posts on this site are quite disrespectful. Amazingly enough, some of the responses to this thread have certainly fallen on deaf ears. However, maybe your words will have a greater impact than you realize. It does seem highly probable that if you get to know an attendant, things do get better and better.


...wouldn't it be crazy if she really turned out to be the BS_angel. So many people ripping her apart and here before them is exactly what they are looking for.

 

[shags1_23]

Well, my 2 cents.

First of all, Muffin , good post, especially the part about us being reviewed in public about our looks and attitude.

I personally find it unnecessary to be overly mean, and say someone is fat, ugly or whatever. Just because there is money being exchanged does not give us the right to be disrespectful.

The bottom line is we are all people and we shoud treat people they way we would expect to treated - nothing less.

The only time I will lash out is when I encounter a rude, bitchy ( excuse my french ) mpa, but ironically that would likely not be on physical appearance, but more on service. Its probably just me, and wrong to generalize, but I find the majority of the bad attitudes are the hot looking ones, who know it and treat you like a second class citizen.

I know I am not a head turner, and no one would confuse me with Brad Pitt, so why should I be critical of an mpa who happens to not be a physical beauty ? Because I am paying her ? I don't think so !

Maybe a rule we should use is this: when doing a review, only write what you would say if you were face to face with the mpa. Just a thought.

 

[Pompal 09.]

Welcome BSangel, your input and opinions are most welcome and I think you've spent a fair bit of time thinking about the message you wanted to relay to us. There have been some well thought out replies already and I can't add too much, just my own thoughts on some of your comments...



I do believe there is such thing as a perfect MA. But it's strictly an individual thing. For some time I have been seeing an attendant who for me is ideal. I have however seen comments about her from time to time that were less than flattering. Simply because some posters here have an ideal body type that they are in search of, (large breasts, tight body, etc...) for me, what's more important is personality and how she and I can get along for the time we are together. Some call it chemistry but I'm not quite sure how to define it, we know when it happens.

I once posted a review about a girl who is very attractive and I used a numeric rating system. I've thought about that and regretted it ever since and will never do so again. Not that I gave her a poor rating but did give one of her features a low rating and I know that if she read that review she would be thinking 'what's wrong with my ******' Those types of reviews can be hurtful I know and I personally don't like to see them.



I truly hope you do not do anything that goes against your own wishes. I personally would not want a girl to do anything with me that she doesn't enjoy or doesn't really want to do. I also prefer someone who remains true to herself and does not over play as an actress.



I know this is difficult, but, the first session is the most important. If I feel no connection on the first session there is no chance that I will repeat. There is too much competition and this hobby is expensive. However, a good session the first time will likely bring me back time and time again. That doesn't mean that I'm looking for extras like BJ FS (I'm not), it just means that I'm looking for someone who can make me feel important and make me forget about the world outside the room for the time I'm with her. She doesn't have to be the most beautiful girl in the world with the best body in the world, she just has to be herself and comfortable with me.

Thanks for listening...

 

[FLOW]

I haven't posted before and I'm new member. Since I've started surfing here I haven't had a bad massage! Reviews are necessary. Good and bad. Some of the clients are going to be assholes and a lot of the MPAs don't even attempt at making you feel comfortable. Hopefully reading these posts they get an inkling of what the client wants.

 

[chance]

I am sure there are many more coments to come but I would like say thanks to those who made a complete understanding of this posting .....sarasota you have know idea!!! I give every last bit of it into my BS and I have never had a complaint just alot of "wow's" and "I need a nap now do you mind? " style comments. Revolver I am glad you noticed your errors and from your response even a negative review from you would obviously be in good taste. I would love to hear who your regular MA is thats keeps you so content......Blade also understood that this was not a whining post but mearly an opinion of a few MA's and mostly directed at the 10% of disrespectful and distasteful posts I have seen in the past.... and for scattered the speeling (ha ha) error was intended to show a little humor which I pride myself in very much... I think you caught it though

 

[HOSS]

There's a lot of dilemma there; unfortunately, the "Men Behaving Badly" are occasionally going to write some things that won't be perfectly flattering, nay, they'll drop some Those cans weren't nearly big enough! comments.

If you can't handle that, you'll have a tough time.

The business is one where "perfect" bodies come at a premium, and "MBB" will point out imperfections.

Is it good? Certainly it's not, but it's inevitable, and if you're unable to steel yourself against the inevitabilities, it's going to be rough.



Yes, I gathered that...
I'm not certain you caught my little joke, but that's all right anyways...

 

[Smile Jesus Loves You]

the more I don't get...question though...why would someone post a bad review and then come back to see you???

...and you ask others to tell of their best mpas but you stay in the dark

...plus you say you represent yourself and some others...so this means that your parlour in general gets mixed reviews... as I see it...ASKING for tactful reviews means you get a lot of bad ones...




Really the worst part to read was you saying you had to do something so you wouldn't be reviewed badly here...what that means to me is that you are judging all clients based on what is said on this board...

 

[MommyTrujillo]

What factors come into play with regards to a bad review?

If someone is complaining about an MPA's physical features or the fact that they did not "Click" with her, then that MPA should not take those comments personally. They merely fall into an individuals personal tastes. We all have our personal tastes including MPA's. Also, if some client wanted to have extra services, but was refused, and decided to write a negative review because of this, then do not take the review seriously.

Negative review factors that help justify what this board is intended for are issues such as rushed service, coming in late or cutting out early, charging clients in excess of what they should be charged, MPA's who complain/bitch during the session and MPA's who have poor attitudes (mechanical release - do not care what they are doing, etc.). These are the types of factors that should be reported. The MPA then can determine if a certain type of behaviuor or activity may need to be changed in order to generate or maintain clients.

I would assume that if an MPA is good at her job, then she will have a steady stream of repeat clients. Her reputation should not be tarnished by the odd negative review.

And finally, try not to take criticism in a negative manner. In any profession I have worked in receiving negative performance reviews happens. At first it bothered the hell out of me, but then I learned to use them to my advantage. And yes, I had to take into consideration the person who was delivering the negative reviews. Some people's reviews I valued as a constructive, while others I knew that it was not done in a constructive manner & I dismissed them.

Good luck.

 

[Rohn]

First of all let me start with the fact that i am a newbie. long time lurker and sometime participator. i have posted but a couple of reviews. so far my experiences have ranged from mediocre to great. IF i have a bad experience what i will try to keep in mind is a mantra i picked up at work. Be tough on the issues but gentle on people. I would suggest that this apply here as well. If the service is bad, for whatever reason, it seems perfectly logical to review the service. If the ma isn't the perfect speciman that you thought, but the service was good, is it necessary to comment on her looks? Not in my books. Conversely, she may possess the perfect body, but if the service is lacklustre, would you not review her on that basis?
My 2 rubles.

 

[Extra U]

I've warned many ladies if they cannot stand criticism of themselves, dont read the posts.

Why? Because some guys just dont get it.....

Explicity, harshness, vulgarity is uncalled for and what one man deems attractive doesnt mean everyone else is attracted to the same thing.

 

[xxx_wowz_xxx]

She could be you ... or one of your co-workers

Seriously though, there are a couple of reasons why I won't reveal her identity in open forums. One being for fear of bringing on negative comments from some of the more narrow minded posters who can't see past a woman's chest ... the other being that I have another lady friend who reads these forums. She knows that I see this other girl for massages and she asked me not to tell her who it was. I promised I wouldn't and if I revealed her identity I would be breaking that promise.

Over the last six months I haven't really seen anyone that I would review negatively. My choices have been limited though and very select.

 

[yahoooo!]

Do you want to know why I'm not a male stripper or male SP? Don't have the body, looks, courage and I chose a different career path. If I was a male MP (reversing roles) I would never read the board, I couldn't take it. So why should any MPA if she can't. Sure it's great when they're getting great reviews, but a couple of negative post then the shit hits the fan. (no offence to The Fan *lol*).

Every MPA wants to be treated with respect. Guess what, you've heard it before and you'll hear it again "Men are Pigs!" All of us, no exceptions! We can all play the role of gentleman, but we pay women to give us hand jobs. Hello!? Guess what, women are worse. They gossip, and talk, and I'm sure after a session a few MPA's went to the back room and starting talking about us. "That guy was fat, that guy's dick was small", or in my case "That guy has the biggest member, and the greatest body I've ever seen" (just have to put some humor in this post). I've had MPA's talk about the last customer that way. We just do it on a public forum.

The point, I'll post what I want and how I want to. I will describe physical appearance and attitude. I will show respect when it's due and disrespect as well. If an MPA asks me not to post, I and I alone will make that decision.

Sheik, some guys do "get it", some just don't care.

Ladies, everyday the job I do gets positive and negative feedback. MPA's are unlucky because it's on this board, but you chose the lifestyle.

 

[Stephbiatchxxx]

Gotta love it! Still nothing touches National Lampoon!