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This morning I went for a body massage at my local salon. I am studying Swedish Massage part-time and wanted to experience a full body massage and also wanted some relaxation due to my stressful job.

I was taken into the room and told to remove my clothing and bra and face the ceiling. No consultation..... nothing. Therapist comes in and just says "so you're treating yourself are you?". Starts off with the massage, does not say are you comfortable, is the pressure good etc..... She seemed a bit grumpy and not in the mood to actually do the massage - I could just sense it so felt that the whole experience was not relaxing. The massage lasted an hour, and she did not say one word to me, even though I commented how nice my back massage was. Then left me to get changed and pay and that was it.

No after care advice either?

Is this standard is some salons - I'm not going back there again, thats for sure!
 
Hmm, this has happened to me several times in salons. I get the impression that some salons work as though you are on a conveyer belt. Like you, I was not particularly impressed and no, I wouldn't go back either, no matter how good the massage was.

J
 
Thank goodness I am not the only one - you'd think that they are a professional establishment and say for example, I had high blood pressure or a recoverer of cancer or had a thrombosis - obviously I know these things, but if I had never had a massage before and did not know the ins and outs - they are putting themselves at risk of having a claim made against them- very silly.

I know someone that does massage from her home - so might try her out - because I did not get the good service there, I am now on the prowl for even better!
 
Definately worthy of a letter to the manager/salon owner, as they could be open to all sorts of complications. What about first aid if something went horribly wrong?
I had a seated massage when I was at Amsterdam airport a couple of years ago - I had to fill out a consultation sheet while I waited (they were incredibly busy!) and the therapist read through it before she treated me. It was bliss!
 
I've only ever had a massage in a health place in Holland and I must say they didn't do any of the things taught in colleges here either - no consultation, no aftercare advise etc. However, from Jabba The Hut's comment they are obviously taught the same in Holland but not everybody applies this.

I think from the comments above it is obvious that these 'bad' people will work themselves out of a job as nobody will go back to them and the power of word of mouth is incredibly strong. People who do a good job, have a good rappor with clients and treat them as they themselves would wish to be treated will go far.

Pemba, maybe this is a good lesson for you and you will retain your clients once you finish your course. Probably prooves another thing - lot of people have a piece of paper which is worth nothing - it is not finishing a course that makes you a good therapist.
 
My sister-in-law knows the owner and says that I should definitely complain, which I will do via letter as I feel more comfortable. Said that I may receive vouchers or even the offer of another massage (?).... who knows.

Luckily I have no disorders, or on medication, or pregnant, although do suffer from low blood pressure and was careful when getting up from the couch. Still mad about it though.
 
The therapist that massaged me was pregnant ( although I did not notice this as she was wearing a black uniform) and I commented to her that she must get tired doing a full massage. She replied that she did as she had 9 weeks to go until she gave birth.

I could sense that she was not bothered so felt extremely uncomfortable. I do have plans to have my own business from home (working part-time when qualified) and really want to offer the best and most professional service. I agree with you that it is a lesson as I went into the session feeling stressed and came out feeling more stressed - which was not the effect that I wanted.

I'm about to compose my letter - thanks all for your advice!
 
I've experienced this before in a beauty salon that just gave relaxing massages, which they were, but I didn't have a consultation of any description other than being asked to fill in a form about contact details and asked if I'd had a massage before.
 
Pemba, how dreadful and disappointing for you - expecting an hour of blissful relaxation and to be treated like a lump of meat :-(

At least you have the experience to know better. Imagine if this had been your first massage and you didn't know any different and didn't feel comfortable / looked after / respected / safe - chances are you would think allmassage was like that andnever go for another massage, and worse tellyour friend how awful massage is.

I would be really pleasedif you could complain on behalf of all dedicated massage professionals out there - esp those on HP. We all owe it to each other as a profession to quality control the treatments wereceive and give,and keep the standard as high as possible.

Its tough because by complaining to the salon they may well come down on the therapist - and I see a large portion of the blame on the salon in not doing its own quality control and giving full body massage workto heavily pregnant staff. I can sympathise with the therapist to a reasonable degree - but even soif she is not able to give a safe and basic relaxing massage then she really should not be doing it - I would guess she needs support and training to help her cope.

Whatever you do - and whatever the outcome - how ever much you were disappointed, view this incident as a valuable gift for your training: how NOT to treat clients, and what it feels like tobe on the receiving end of a poor massage. I canbe certainthat you will never treat your clients that way - ever.Also its important to note that the feelings and intent of the therapist comes through to the client at some level - in this case pretty loud and clear! It might be good to share the experience with your tutor and training group (and to get a really good and sensitive massage).

I do hope that helps put a positivelight on it - IMHO we typically only ever get one chance to loose a client, and hundreds to keep them!

InTouch

P.S. And sorry if this sounds like I am on my high horse - its just that I care - hence being in a caring profession - and get annoyed bytherapists who don't .

.
 
Hi Pemba,
Sorry you had a bad experience,however don't let that put you off.In my experience a majority of 'salons' are like the one you went to,however there are some excellent ones who really know how to treat clients.My tip for you is ask questions yourself if no consultation happens,get the treatment you want,if you don't like what you hear or you think their attitude or body language isn't right LEAVE and try somewhere else.
 
Excellent advice from everyone and a warning to us all. Taking a positive from it, though, I think it does point up the difference between a possibly disinterested salonemployee fitting in a massage treatment between a manicure and a bikini wax, and those of us working forourselves in a therapywe enjoy - and with a personal reputation (and business) to protect.
It's up to us to promote the image of the independent therapist - caring, dedicated and professional.
 
I totally agree with what you say. I've sent the letter now and it was a very good one... I will let you know the response.

I think about my mother as she has very high BP and is a high risk stroke victim. She regularly goes for physiotherapy and if she had undergone a massage there - there would have definitely been serious complications. She has experienced already no consultation and as a result of it fainted and it affected her BP for a couple of days. She now goes to a reliable therapist who goes through her details each time.

It definitely does let us therapists down and it makes me want to achieve and work harder and give my very best to my clients and who knows I may be working in that salon one day.... !
 
Hi Scorpio.

This was my first ever massage, apart from a couple of body parts which my fellow students have practised on me, I have an excellent tutor and she has taught us brilliantly and so in-depth are the lectures and advice.

I will definitely query the next time I book in for a massage - at a salon elsewhere - whether they carry out consultations otherwise I won't book a massage.

As I said before it is a lesson.......... will let you know!
 
I've also been to salons and have had aromatherapy massage and reflexology and was given no consultation and no aftercare - it just makes me more determined not to let any of my clients down and I do a consultation with every treatment and give them an aftercare sheet to take home with them. At least by recognising what others are doing wrong hopefully means we wont make the same mistakes
 
Hi,

I just had my sister visiting and gave her a massage while she was here. She was a bit nervous, as when she had one before at a beauty salon they did no consultation. When she got off the couch she felt so dizzy she had to sit down for 20 mins before she could drive home and felt weird for a few days. Turns out she has slightly low bp- though nothing that requires medication or anything. I gave her a massage after taking full medical history. When we had finished she stayed lying down for 5 mins, then she sat up and had a glas of water. Only when I was sure she felt okay did I let her stand up and she was absolutely fine.
I don't think beauty salons should be allowed to practice massage if they are not going to do it properley!
 
I received a letter from the Salon and a full refund. She apologised for the lack of communication but then stated the therapist has not had a happy pregnancy and had been off on sick leave, but no excuse for her attitude. Said that she would be discussing issues at a staff meeting. Also mentioned that they only do a relaxing massage (so don't massage abdomen and chest) and not a remedial massage..... I feel that they should mention this when advertising rather than saying a full body massage.

Am glad that they responded and I got my money back. But sadly, I will not be going back to the Salon because I still feel that not offering a consultation is not best practice.

Thanks for all your responses

Pemba
 
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    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ [Zoe - ๐Ÿ”ฅStunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality
  30. lotushubspa:
    Hello, dear customers, today Lotus Spa is located at 10737 Yonge St unit13 and provides female masseuses for customers. ๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€โš•๏ธSasa๐Ÿ’‹Lily๐Ÿ’‹Mary๐Ÿ’‹ provides customers with first-class service attitude and a large number of beauties๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ’‹Please contact phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ9052375885 or SMS 4163565876๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿคช
  31. Dreaminn:
    New Vinetmese girl wendy provides SF2 daty bbbj dfk rim cim cfs and massage , Chinese girl Luna and jenie sexy body good looking., 10225 Yonge Street, Richmond hill
  32. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center :Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Lulu,New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Baby ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry , address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  33. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    CHERRY & *new SPINNER NANA (Nana starts at 3pm) today at AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž
  34. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts Ivy, Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Vita ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  35. SunriseRH:
    MONDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: JULIA. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ JULIA is a slim but curvy Spanish attendant with natural B Cups & a pretty face. She can take a load off your mind. SUNRISE SPA welcomes you to experience total relaxation in our comfortable, clean, cozy environment. Our lovely selection of beauties can totally satisfy your expectations.
  36. NewOriental:
    MONDAY at ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ช ๐—ข๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—˜๐—ก๐—ง๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: HAPPY, NAYLA & PHOENIX 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿด๐Ÿญ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. NAYLA is a tall, young, beautiful & curvy Spanish girl. Come and say hola. PHOENIX is a gentle sweet Filipina lady, 5โ€™4โ€ and 105Lbs, with 34C-24-34 assets
  37. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick On Username and FOLLOW USโœ… Today ๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธFran๐ŸŒธMel๐ŸŒธSophia โ˜Ž905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ
  38. ASPA:
    ๐— ๐—ข๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: EMMA and Best Massage RACHEL. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable. RACHEL is slim and attractive
  39. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจClick On Username and FOLLOW USโœ… Today ๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธIvy๐ŸŒธKim โ˜Ž289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ
  40. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ*New Girl CANDY, YUMI & CINDY CANDY is a slim and attractive Asian Attendant with nice boobs, slim waist & a booty loverโ€™s ass. Candy has a full range of services. YUMI is a sexy skinny Chinese babe, short with big boobs, nice smile & very good services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady
  41. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Suki๐Ÿ˜is beautiful short petite tiny sexy student from Cambodia. Exotic features and model looks, Suki has a nice bum, slim waist, flat stomach and very good massage skills and has a great playful personality. Suki has a beautifu
  42. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHERRY, ELLA & LUNA. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CHERRY is a young, slim, friendly and absolutely gorgeous Vietnamese beauty, 49 Kgs with Bounteous D Cups. Real pics, unreal services! BBBJ, shower together, full menu. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude.
  43. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Candy๐Ÿ’• She is a Vietnamese With nice Sexy Slender Body, Curves and Sweet Melons ๐Ÿฅ‘ Sami๐Ÿ’• Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl ๐Ÿฅ‘ Cici๐Ÿ’• Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Provides Amazing Service โ˜Ž๏ธ647-446-0886
  44. See You Health Center:
    Natalie ๐Ÿ’• She is from Philippines CBC Petite school girlโ€จGFE, BBbj, DFK in her menu. Provides Excellent Service & Smoking Hot Body ๐Ÿฅ‘Lin๐Ÿ’•โ€จVery Young, Petiteโ€จVietnamese Studentโ€จWith Spicy Slim Bodyโ€จ ๐Ÿฅ‘ Judy๐Ÿ’• is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž 416-988-2950
  45. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ nice girl Luna ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜Hot and sexy body, super body slide,Lisa deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the back door with plenty of parking spaces
  46. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Lisa, Cindy & Ruby. *NEW Lisa is a young, slim & very beautiful Vietnamese beauty with a model like body, 5โ€™4โ€ with sweet D Cups, nice massage, incredible services. RUBY is Singaporean, very slim, petite & sexy, speaks English well, & has great services. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€"
  47. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 beautiful young girls are working today, young fun Ivy 30โ€™s with 36DD open mind and Young cute Yuki slime 30โ€™s open mind, pretty Selina with big buttocks 30โ€™s and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  48. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, New First Day Sexy Chinese Coco, Sexy Chinese Linda, Young Sexy Chinese Abie
  49. eyano99:
    Aurora
  50. YM203:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 2 Asian girl later tonight
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