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prolapsed disc and sciatica

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Hi,am new to this.I have had terrible 'bad back'for 20 years.1st time i was told it was because i had dislocated my cockex when i gave birth,i was 21 then.I then suffered with siatica down my bum and leg every 12months approx.In 2006 i fell on my left hand side of my bum and could't walk or move(very hard going to toilet)hardly,i was given tremadol and diazipan without the doctor coming to see me.I have suffered ever since then with ok pain and then severe pain.It feels like i have been hit across my back really hard and winded.It is so bad sometimes i can't even lift my head for a drink.I have seen a doc in the hospital who said he can't do anything for me as i have too many trigger points in my back to operate.He did not make much sense.All i want is to know exactly what is wrong and how to fix it.My gp told me a week ago that i had severe siatica due to prolapsed discs.I take amitryptyline,oxycodone and sometimes diazipan.I have not worked since i fell.I have asked for an mri scan but would i be any wiser.I am waiting for a second opinion now.I get upset that even walking or sitting can set it off.I have read lots of posts on here and can't believe so many people suffer with backs this much.The NHS should make a hospital especially for us lot that have back problems.
 
Welcome Kate Sorry to hear of your troubles, you are not alone xxxxxx
 
Post again when get the results of you second opinion MRI, and let us know. You'll have a better idea of whats going on then, more than you do at present!

If it does turn out to be a disc impinegment of your spinal column 'or' more likely your L 4/5 foraminal opening, there are things that can be done!

Come back soon and often!

Best wishes

SPINELF
 
Well i had my mri-It shows prolapsed discs L2 L3 L4 L5.Told i can't have an operation but they have reffered me for an injection in my spine.They also want me to go to pain clinic.A friend has just had an op on his L4/L5 and i am just wondering why i can't have an op.They don't actually answer my question properly.I would like to go back to work one day but at the moment i can't lift,stretch,bend,carry shopping.I might aswell just not get up is what i say to the doc.Then i get told i am depressed.Has anyone else had an operation when more than one disc is causing problems.
 
How intriguing, to be fair I beat you on the numbers lol I have several more prolapsed discs, but most of them are not a problem... yet. That was meant to make you feel better and less worried lol!

But it all depends on where they are pressing and so on as to whether conventional surgery can help ie: nhs. MISS will though, but again it depends what is causing the pain, it's not always the obvious prolapsed disc? What did the report say word for word? Just prolapsed discs or anything else?
 
Logical way to go. Doctors must diagnose and differentiate your pain sources. Your pain can come from one disc, or more... Or something else (not disc).

My mom had operations at 3 discs, and thank God, she is pretty good now.
 
I am going back to the hospital in december where i am going to actually ask for an answer to why i can't have an op.I saw a doc in 2003 who said i had arthritis in my spine but all i get off the other docs is most people have it somewhere in the body,but not an actual answer.Can you have an operation if you have this.Since i last saw the doc i now have continuous(can't spell)pins and needles in both legs when standing for more than a few seconds or even sitting on a chair and constant pain in my feet.They did say i had no actual nerve damage although one was getting pressed on more than the others.This is the one they say that gives me problems when i need to have a wee.I have to really concentrate and tell my brain i need to go even when i am bursting to pee.I will come back on here when i have any more info.Thanks for your answers.Jackie
 
And if not then there are still things that can be done!
 
Why don't you shop around and find people who DO answer your questions properly? There's a world of choice, and there's more than one way to look at any problem.

I agree it would be nice if there was an hospital for these problems, but it would have to offer something different to be worthwhile setting it up. If it's more of the same all collected in one place I'm not sure that really addresses the issues!
 
Sorry to hear, the pain must be awful.

Have you tried going for Bowen Technique, as a person that you used to suffer various back problems, I can recommend that it is a fantastic and, for me, a quick resolve to back problems.

Arnica may help too.
 
Kojak, you mention in your original post that the examining doctor referred to "trigger points" in your back. If these are genuine muscular trigger points, they may feel like a small tender pea often in the middle of a band of fibrous muscle tissue, and when pressed hard will give similar pain sensations. Deeper ones in places like the quadratus lumborum or gluteals are difficult to palpate, but can still give pain that extends into the legs or buttocks.

Trigger points can often be deactivated with acupuncture needles; stretches can help them from reoccuring. Acupuncture is now recommended by NICE for chronic low back pain; always check for experience, qualification and local authority regulation, as acupuncture is unregulated in the UK and anyone can set themselves up as a therapist. Beware of practitioners that have only had short training courses- ie 20 hours! The British Acupuncture Council keeps a register of qualified and insured practitioners on their website, and there are also other associations as well. It could be worth giving it a try before going down the surgical route; if there's no improvement at all in 6 treatments, then it probably isn't for you.

Best wishes for recovery
 
Thanks for your answer.I have had the acupuuncture-i was in severe pain for a very long time after.I have seen another phisio person who assessed me(caused alot of pain) and has now written in my notes that i am too sensitive for any more phisio.I have now seen the doc at the hospital again who has referred me again for the epidural injections which she says might notr even work.I also asked her could i have an operation.She said no but that she would refer me for a second oppinion from walton hosp.When i askled her why she said that i had no viable discs for the surgeon to work.There are several damaged so they would not touch me.That was her answer so it will be a wasted journey to see a surgeon but crossed fingers and he may have good news and might try something.My husband broke his back 20 yrs ago and they put a titanium rod in his back,i think i will ask if i can have one.
 
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    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡New First Day Young Slim Sexy Vietnamese Lisa. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinese Suki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young CBC Rachel.
  33. Maplewood69:
    One spa
  34. hiyamickey:
    6 girls working at Reynaella wellness, address: 3555 14th Ave unit #7 Markham โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-470-8082
  35. Sparkling Spa:
    SPARKLING SPA WITH NEW GIRLS AND NEW MANAGEMENT HAS SUPER SEXY GIRLS WAITING TO BLOW YOU AWAY!! Japanese Chanel and Shanghai girl Jennifer working today โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT#8 NO SPA LIKE US ANYWHERE NEAR US
  36. Lily Spa:
    b]โค๏ธ SANA, SARIKA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  37. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spaโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธTable shower ๐Ÿšฟ body scrub ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘have 4 girls ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜2 new girls Lucy.Vicy.so nice sexy girl very good service ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜Cici and Helen Deep tissue massage ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366
  38. SunriseRH:
    TUESDAY at SUNRISE SPA: HELEN, SUMMER & TIANA. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ 647-325-8086 โ˜Ž๏ธ HELEN is a young, slim & very sexy Vietnamese lady. She not only looks good, she IS good. SUMMER is a sweet Asian babe, 5โ€™3โ€ with a captivating 36D-28-39 figure, weighing 108 Lbs. Summer has very good massage & services. TIANA is a sexy Jamaican girl, 5โ€™6โ€ & 120Lbs
  39. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MALIYA, SANA, ANGEL, PAYAL PEARL, ANAYA, AAVI ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  40. NewOriental:
    TUESDAY at NEW ORIENTAL SPA: HAPPY, MICHELLE & VIVIAN. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ 647-381-2688 โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. MICHELLE is a young, curvaceous beauty, 5โ€™2โ€ & 130Lbs, 37DDD-31-41, a trim waist, and a nice butt. Come and be pampered. VIVIAN is a pretty and very sexy Chinese doll, standing 5โ€™7โ€ tall
  41. GoldenFlower:
    TUESDAY at ๐Ÿ’›โญ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒปGOLDEN FLOWER SPA๐ŸŒป๐ŸŒŸโญ๐Ÿ’›, 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6 (Kennedy & Hwy 7), Markham, ON 905-258-0777: Monica, Nancy(to 8pm), Sherry &Sonia. After 8pm: Mimi
  42. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ(437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Julia๐Ÿ˜˜ - A shy new Korean girl waiting to
  43. ASPA:
    ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ CHERRY is a Vietnamese beauty, standing 1.62Cm tall & weighing 50Kg, with a nice 32C bust size. She is a sexy and charming lady with excellent service. RACHEL is a slim and attractive attendant, about 5โ€™4โ€ tall with nice responsive 34Cโ€™s and a captivating smooth rounded
  44. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: Cindy, Eva & Helen. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best! Eva is young, slim, innocent & demure looks, but donโ€™t let her innocent looks deceive. She can massage & service very well.
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular
  46. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 818-8896โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Luna๐Ÿ˜ is beautiful part time student, and has very sexy body, and so cute. 34C breasts on a tiny tight little spinner body. Luna is your Asian university sweetheart willing to learn anything you can teach her. She is very tight! She can
  47. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts Cindy , Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Sara,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massageSherry ,๐Ÿ  address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  48. Moneylee:
    full season wellness center: NewYoung girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Mimi , Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage star ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  49. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡New First Day Young Slim Sexy Vietnamese Lisa. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinese Suki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young CBC Rachel.
  50. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute student Mia 25 years old and young sweet fun Ivy with curve body, sexy Coco and pretty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available,350 Wilson Ave North York
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