Spa in Navi Mumbai

Guys have one curious question

Have visited more than 30 plus massage parlours, independent ladies so in total more than 100 women’s in last 10 years of mongering journey

I am just wondering how God is so good with me that he did not infected me with any kind of Infection

I had 90 percent massage where took b2b maximum time , 2 years back bare BJ and 3 to 5 times covered BJ and inter course that too not intense


Since last 1 year only b2b and all reports too negative. But I always thinks what could be the best way to remain healthy and not infected from such places plz put on some light
 
Guys have one curious question

Have visited more than 30 plus massage parlours, independent ladies so in total more than 100 women’s in last 10 years of mongering journey

I am just wondering how God is so good with me that he did not infected me with any kind of Infection

I had 90 percent massage where took b2b maximum time , 2 years back bare BJ and 3 to 5 times covered BJ and inter course that too not intense


Since last 1 year only b2b and all reports too negative. But I always thinks what could be the best way to remain healthy and not infected from such places plz put on some light
I have been worrried many times in a similar manner, but nothing bad has ever happened as far as you respect the safety boundries.

I have done a lot of online research and found few key points.

1. Sexual infections are mainly caused because of exchange of bodily fluids.
2. Avoid DFK or going down on her if you have a cut, bleeding gums, or ulcer in your mouth.
3. Although this is obvious, when it comes to Johnny always use Condo.
4. Carry a alcohol based mouthwash with you (listerine blue, etc) and wash your mouth immediately after the deed.
5. Also apparently viruses die immediately if you run them in clean water or use a soap to clean ur Johnny and other body parts after the deed (take bath with these additional steps)

Lastly, have faith its like when you go hunting, the one who is being hunted is as afraid of you as you are of him/her, which means the girls have safety on their priority list higher than you coz of the work so I believe they must have check-ups etc regularly. This may not be true if you go to cheap unhygenic options, but should be true for most high/ medium ends.

But of course maintain your precautions as mentioned above and hope you sail safe through the uneven waters.
 
Guys have one curious question

Have visited more than 30 plus massage parlours, independent ladies so in total more than 100 women’s in last 10 years of mongering journey

I am just wondering how God is so good with me that he did not infected me with any kind of Infection

I had 90 percent massage where took b2b maximum time , 2 years back bare BJ and 3 to 5 times covered BJ and inter course that too not intense


Since last 1 year only b2b and all reports too negative. But I always thinks what could be the best way to remain healthy and not infected from such places plz put on some light
I will suggest you to follow proper precautions and don’t indulge in cat licking.

Remember - you can get lucky mutiple time but tragedy strike once.

Better be safe then sorry
 
Can you share more details - amt and good staff name
Firs time I was new to the game so end up paying much more then market rate. Tried N@@z (age 21 , slim and local) for FS for 6K +2K counter. For FS and massage the room don’t have lock so be careful.

Second time I bargained and got Nuru message + FS + jacuzzi bath - 90 min for 10k total ( all inclusive ) - tried V**sa - 23 , slim and Maharashtrian. She also happens to be Manager and this was VFM. Nuru spa with jacuzzi have full size room with lock and music connected on BT which you can change and enjoy full 90 min. I think 60 min charge would be less.

This is walk in place so no recommendation required and you can bargain for Nuru +FS on counter but for only FS you will need to talk to girl and strike a deal.

Enjoy
 
Firs time I was new to the game so end up paying much more then market rate. Tried N@@z (age 21 , slim and local) for FS for 6K +2K counter. For FS and massage the room don’t have lock so be careful.

Second time I bargained and got Nuru message + FS + jacuzzi bath - 90 min for 10k total ( all inclusive ) - tried V**sa - 23 , slim and Maharashtrian. She also happens to be Manager and this was VFM. Nuru spa with jacuzzi have full size room with lock and music connected on BT which you can change and enjoy full 90 min. I think 60 min charge would be less.

This is walk in place so no recommendation required and you can bargain for Nuru +FS on counter but for only FS you will need to talk to girl and strike a deal.

Enjoy
Counter is 1.5k & FS is 5k, this is their fixed rate.

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FR on M spa

Visited spa after a long gap, junior was itching for a release, quoted 1.5k counter brought down to 1.2k.

Shown selection, found one to be fuckable, taken room upstairs, dry thai, asked her to give a hard pressure massage, she massaged well for 20 odd mins then asked her for service, 1k for TL HJ, 1.5k for B2B, intially had said no to FS.

Negotiated B2B for 1.2k as needed release since long time, johnny was really hard without any pill as was visiting spa after long time.

She was rubbing her pussy on my junior really well, told her double paisa dunga FS chahiye, her ask was 4k, I sticked to my offer & she agreed, asked her to ride in WOT, she is quite slim so picked her up and put on table, sucked her melons, though she is quite slim but has sizeable boobs to sucked, released quite early than usual as as was doing the deed after long gap & had not taken any pills, anyways next time wasool lunga.

1.2k - Counter
2.5k - FS
( Can be brought down to 2k I guess, was in a hurry as had to attend a function so didn't want to waste time negotiating much. )

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FR on M spa

Visited spa after a long gap, junior was itching for a release, quoted 1.5k counter brought down to 1.2k.

Shown selection, found one to be fuckable, taken room upstairs, dry thai, asked her to give a hard pressure massage, she massaged well for 20 odd mins then asked her for service, 1k for TL HJ, 1.5k for B2B, intially had said no to FS.

Negotiated B2B for 1.2k as needed release since long time, johnny was really hard without any pill as was visiting spa after long time.

She was rubbing her pussy on my junior really well, told her double paisa dunga FS chahiye, her ask was 4k, I sticked to my offer & she agreed, asked her to ride in WOT, she is quite slim so picked her up and put on table, sucked her melons, though she is quite slim but has sizeable boobs to sucked, released quite early than usual as as was doing the deed after long gap & had not taken any pills, anyways next time wasool lunga.

1.2k - Counter
2.5k - FS
( Can be bought down to 2k I guess, was in a hurry as had to attend a function so didn't want to waste time negotiating much. )

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Bro which spa is this and where is it?
 
FR on M spa

Visited spa after a long gap, junior was itching for a release, quoted 1.5k counter brought down to 1.2k.

Shown selection, found one to be fuckable, taken room upstairs, dry thai, asked her to give a hard pressure massage, she massaged well for 20 odd mins then asked her for service, 1k for TL HJ, 1.5k for B2B, intially had said no to FS.

Negotiated B2B for 1.2k as needed release since long time, johnny was really hard without any pill as was visiting spa after long time.

She was rubbing her pussy on my junior really well, told her double paisa dunga FS chahiye, her ask was 4k, I sticked to my offer & she agreed, asked her to ride in WOT, she is quite slim so picked her up and put on table, sucked her melons, though she is quite slim but has sizeable boobs to sucked, released quite early than usual as as was doing the deed after long gap & had not taken any pills, anyways next time wasool lunga.

1.2k - Counter
2.5k - FS
( Can be brought down to 2k I guess, was in a hurry as had to attend a function so didn't want to waste time negotiating much. )

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Can you pls let us know the name and loc?
 
FR on TWS A**ie

Thanks to @whoami#2915 for reference:

It was my first visit here, manager gave directions and treated very professionally, the usual recommendations were busy, so manager suggested a new bird (joined 4 days ago). I will summarize my experience first of the spa then with the girl:

Place/ Ambience: Very clean and good place, has an authentic Thai feel to it. No beds only ground mattresses (big mattresses), just the way they are in most Thailand SPAs. Unfortunately lights went out few mins after I entered the room and they were out till the end of my session, our session continued on mobile torch.

Girl (massage and damages): To my surprise she was also from Thailand, I had my doubts but she was very detailed about Phuket (I could verify that as I went there recently). She had a beautiful and very fair face and slender body. Started with back massage and leg massage from back side, it was thorough and good, but when I turned over she rushed in a bit and asked about service, I was just in for b2b and I asked for CBJ as well, she quoted 3k, I tried to bring her down to 2.5 as advised by WhoamI but she did not budge, I had to be somewhere else after that so I agreed for 3k (any other day I wouldn't have), she also mentioned FS is 4k, and no girl would do it less than that, but she was new, I decided not to debate as it would have spoiled the mood and I wasn't in for FS anyways. She asked for the money upfront which was ok but felt slightly unpleasant.

Service: I could tell she wasn't that much into service, didn't do DFK, just light peck on the lips, I tried to do it my way but she had a mind of her own and was rushing a bit, tried to turn me on by kissing my back earplay etc, few of those things turned me on, tits were ok, but I had to ask for giving them in my mouth, whereas she played with my nips generously, biting and all that. I should mention she has a full back tattoo and few tats on the front as well, so that was a turn on for me, her slender body also helped. But due to her being on and off about the service, Johnny wasn't ready to give full attention, but when she started b2b some of her actions got Johnny to full attention, she was ready to do BBJ, slathered a lot of wet tissues on Johnny, I asked her to wait and got Condi, then asked her to give bj, she showed me the time twice or thrice, I said you continue. To my surprise the BJ was good, she was really sucking it and her small Thai mouth helped Johnny to full response mode. She understood and turned up the heat on BJ, and I finally nutted in her mouth with condi, she licked few cum drops which fell on my stomach after the deed.

After Service Manners: Given the rushing in service, I thought she will leave the room, but she was really good with after service manners, bathed me with body gel, I was ready to do it on my own, but she was persistent at that, had a good shower, she handed me the towel, even gave me my clothes in my hand, insisted that she wears me my shirt and so she did. The last few acts of the experience made me forget the earlier issues and I left the place with a smile.

Numbers:
Looks: 6.5-7/10
Body: Slender 7/10
Boobs: Medium size, Not as perky as I thought 6/10
DFK: 0 (she did not do it)
Massage: 7/10
CBJ: 7/10
After Service Manners: 8/10
 
FR on M spa

Visited spa after a long gap, junior was itching for a release, quoted 1.5k counter brought down to 1.2k.

Shown selection, found one to be fuckable, taken room upstairs, dry thai, asked her to give a hard pressure massage, she massaged well for 20 odd mins then asked her for service, 1k for TL HJ, 1.5k for B2B, intially had said no to FS.

Negotiated B2B for 1.2k as needed release since long time, johnny was really hard without any pill as was visiting spa after long time.

She was rubbing her pussy on my junior really well, told her double paisa dunga FS chahiye, her ask was 4k, I sticked to my offer & she agreed, asked her to ride in WOT, she is quite slim so picked her up and put on table, sucked her melons, though she is quite slim but has sizeable boobs to sucked, released quite early than usual as as was doing the deed after long gap & had not taken any pills, anyways next time wasool lunga.

1.2k - Counter
2.5k - FS
( Can be brought down to 2k I guess, was in a hurry as had to attend a function so didn't want to waste time negotiating much. )

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Which spa bro?
 
Sunday - Funday FR

As it was going to be a hectic week ahead work - wise so decided to have some fun today, booked appointment at my regular C spa with Miss M, had taken her couple of times before so service was guaranteed, I am a DFK lover & out of the 3 chicks I took there she was the best, done payment & proceeded to room, very good ambience, pink setup, didn't wear dispo, was not interested in massage, had 2-3 min chit chat & proceeded to main course, she was receprocative & I put Hale - e - dil song on my phone & turned on my Emraan Hashmi mode, intense DFK session, lifted her & kissed her passionately against the wall, then unhooked her bra, awesome melons she has, firm & ripe, sucked em, put her on bed and stripped her naked, clean shaved pussy, asked her to come on top for B2B, she rubbed her pussy against my junior & within no time it was saluting, she was very co - operative as it was my third time with her, massaged my balls, licked my nipples after half hr fun, took HJ & finally released, took hot shower together, left home satisfied.

Damages -

1.5k - Counter
2.5k - B2B

Scorecard

Looks - 7.5 / 10
Figure - 9/10
Service - 10 / 10
Ambience - 9/10
WIR - Yes

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FR on TWS A**ie

Thanks to @whoami#2915 for reference:

It was my first visit here, manager gave directions and treated very professionally, the usual recommendations were busy, so manager suggested a new bird (joined 4 days ago). I will summarize my experience first of the spa then with the girl:

Place/ Ambience: Very clean and good place, has an authentic Thai feel to it. No beds only ground mattresses (big mattresses), just the way they are in most Thailand SPAs. Unfortunately lights went out few mins after I entered the room and they were out till the end of my session, our session continued on mobile torch.

Girl (massage and damages): To my surprise she was also from Thailand, I had my doubts but she was very detailed about Phuket (I could verify that as I went there recently). She had a beautiful and very fair face and slender body. Started with back massage and leg massage from back side, it was thorough and good, but when I turned over she rushed in a bit and asked about service, I was just in for b2b and I asked for CBJ as well, she quoted 3k, I tried to bring her down to 2.5 as advised by WhoamI but she did not budge, I had to be somewhere else after that so I agreed for 3k (any other day I wouldn't have), she also mentioned FS is 4k, and no girl would do it less than that, but she was new, I decided not to debate as it would have spoiled the mood and I wasn't in for FS anyways. She asked for the money upfront which was ok but felt slightly unpleasant.

Service: I could tell she wasn't that much into service, didn't do DFK, just light peck on the lips, I tried to do it my way but she had a mind of her own and was rushing a bit, tried to turn me on by kissing my back earplay etc, few of those things turned me on, tits were ok, but I had to ask for giving them in my mouth, whereas she played with my nips generously, biting and all that. I should mention she has a full back tattoo and few tats on the front as well, so that was a turn on for me, her slender body also helped. But due to her being on and off about the service, Johnny wasn't ready to give full attention, but when she started b2b some of her actions got Johnny to full attention, she was ready to do BBJ, slathered a lot of wet tissues on Johnny, I asked her to wait and got Condi, then asked her to give bj, she showed me the time twice or thrice, I said you continue. To my surprise the BJ was good, she was really sucking it and her small Thai mouth helped Johnny to full response mode. She understood and turned up the heat on BJ, and I finally nutted in her mouth with condi, she licked few cum drops which fell on my stomach after the deed.

After Service Manners: Given the rushing in service, I thought she will leave the room, but she was really good with after service manners, bathed me with body gel, I was ready to do it on my own, but she was persistent at that, had a good shower, she handed me the towel, even gave me my clothes in my hand, insisted that she wears me my shirt and so she did. The last few acts of the experience made me forget the earlier issues and I left the place with a smile.

Numbers:
Looks: 6.5-7/10
Body: Slender 7/10
Boobs: Medium size, Not as perky as I thought 6/10
DFK: 0 (she did not do it)
Massage: 7/10
CBJ: 7/10
After Service Manners: 8/10
What spa is this?
 
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  45. wonderspa:
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