tg are rascist?

[kicker]

I can see what Frode is doing and, sorry, but I'm still appalled.

I've enjoyed Frode being here and he has given us an insight into what happens when these girls go to different countries and the problems they face, I accept that.

What I don't accept is the need to post comments which are best left un-said. I will no sooner look at posts on a forum and not react than I would sit in a bar and listen to them without the same reaction.

If Frode's wife had said that within my hearing I would have pointed out what an ignorant and nasty point of view it is to have, in exactly the same way I would anybody else.

We are not PC here, and I resent that comment, but if people have the right to post what they like then I reserve my right to respond.

 

[jesssiccaah]

I think that Armand has refuted some of your conclusions about America more eloquently than I ever could.

However, I really have to comment on your statement, "particularly in the South which is the majority of the country......." According to my calculations the population of the South is between 23% and 28% of the country, depending on whether you count Florida, which, while it is clearly in the South, is populated by a large perceneforum.xxxe of Northern transplants and their offspring, and loads of Cubans and Latinos, which hardly puts them in the same categaory as the "South" in terms of their social views.

In any case 20-some percent hardly constitutes a majority of the country. And out of that minority, if you subtract the Northerners(cities like Austin, and Atlanta have a lot of them), the African-Americans, Hispanics, Asians, and Arabs, I doubt if you would have left more than 15% of the population, some of whom who could be described as having racist attitudes still "bubbling away beneath the surface," as you put it. I do know what you are talking about and I don't deny that it still exists in some areas, particularly in parts of the South. But that does not characterize the majority of this country. And even in those areas, where the vestiges of the old-style racism may still be "bubbling" under the surface, people still manage to live their daily lives in peace with some semblance of harmony and order, in the sense that you do not have them fighting each other, or wishing to kill each other, like in The Middle East or in Northern Ireland, or Turkey, Nigeria, Ethiopia, Somalia, the Congo, Ruanda, Thailand, the Phillipines, Chechnya, Sri Lanka, East Timor, Guatemala/Belize, Venezuela, Colombia, Peru, and how many other places in the world?

 

[Brandi M]

jews do run america

a funny observation also. more than america, jews run hollywood. but it strikes me so ironic that most jewish actors change their name to bland white names but eery producer is named horowitz!

 

[Terminator]

*TRemenDoh Ro has been Kicked in the Sack*:aan:"I ...Can't ..feel my Nuts":

Its all good

Well I feel when I go somewhere (Somewhere Especially where Black arent that common)I want to give a good empression because, someone might already have a prior assumption of Blacks.(Not to metion people assume/Sterotype anyone)Maybe the word im looking for is called [Heads Up]

 

[Pompal 09.]

Steve

You have everyright to be appalled by her statement, and I respect that. But the thing that you don't think that Frode10 should convay her statement for the benefit of the board, I surely do not agree with.

---------
kjo2 :cheers:

 

[FrEe BiRd]

I agree with you IJ but the problem is people are to lazy to look.... I think maybe we should start a thread...

PLEASE LEARN HOW TO SEARCH BEFORE YOU ASK....

Even then i dont think that would help

 

[Pompal 09.]

well, leave it to the boston guy to shoot his mouth off without knowing the facts, dumbass yank!!

just was reading through all of carly's talk show appearances up until last year and i could've sworn she once revealed but has not

 

[vballchicka204]

Being objectified can sometimes have an upside, especially if it makes you a "sex object," as well!

 

[Connie]

very very good post, i'm aggree with you
i'am happy to have contribute to start a discussion so interessante

 

[AnaBabyBunny]

Nice slag off there Pauly.......managed to dis my taste in music, my business, my appearance and make a thinly veiled reference to pretentiousness all in one sentence...........55555.....

Public Enemy.........they don't make 'em like that anymore.....something relevant to say over dance yer ass off music.........although Gil Scott Herron is my alltime rap hero.......

I am unfortunately still looking for intelligence in music......hence the bitter disappointment in modern rap/hip hop.......

hmmmm.......all this scratchin's makin' me itch!!!!

 

[Staci]

Thats already in the newbie post it I believe. I dont think many bother to read it. Like IJ says it gets annoying after awhile. Do we have to wipe there noses when they sneeze too? At least try to look.

 

[desmeran (emeritus)]

Then might I suggest a few albums to you:

Talib Kweli " Quality Crontrol"
Mos Def ( Any of his two albums)
Blackstar (only one album)
Dead Prez " Lets get Free"
Outkast " Speakerbox/LoveBelow" more specifically, the love below --> dual cd's


These are just to start,

 

[Shma]

Thanx Jaybee,
Like I said, all I can do is speak for one person, but in doing so, I am simply trying to give an alternative as well as internal outlook to a very *tender situation*. The hardest part about dealing with issues such as racism is, you(meaning anyone regardless of race) are all ready on edge and defensive when the discussion comes up. This makes the topic something that is rarely discussed(externally by race), often debated(internally by race), and assumed that the accepted ignorance of others is not out of place.

 

[Sarah A]

Michael Franti and Spearhead.
GangStar / Guru

 

[YahooUser]

Jesus christ i made a good post and i was well intoxicated...... Wait for later when the football is on the drinks are flowing (fridge is stocked and ready) i wonder if i can make some more intresting posts :biggrinlo

 

[clontarf1002]

:*WHY*:I'm OK folks............dont worry:embrassedI'll forget about this and Try my Luck

What A Minute....She's right *We Melt In You Mouth Not In You Hand*:happyi:
Damn Im Stupid Now you guys know im Really 24yrs:sad:

 

[SLipknOT FTW]

as far as the big dcik theory:

id have to say its true, mostly. i played on a realyl good prep-school football team. 28 out of 35 players were black and we all lived in the same dorm. havign to take showers every morning and nite in those circular locker room showers, those bastards certainly backed up the myth. even the small coenerbacks were packing

infamous words of troy parks, starting tailback:
"damn, i hate when my dcik falls in the water when im sitting on the toilet!"

now i think i do ok for myself, but ive never come close to that problem!!

 

[Yoda]

A couple of coments:

First, agreeing with Seafox. Prior to the '60s, polite white people used the words Negro or colored for people of African lineage. Mean people used the "N" word, and, at that time, to say black or brown was considered rude. In the 60's, during the era of the civil rights movement in the US, fiery political activist Stokely Carmichael coined the term, "Black Power" in his book of the same name. That ushered in the era of "Black Pride." Then the terms Negro and colored became symbols of the past era when blacks accepted their status as 2nd class citizens in America. Even though colored or Negro were at one time considered the polite terms, they came to be seen as condescending, because, in fact, they usually were used that way.

It was around the same time(60's) that the phrase "Afro-American" started to come into use. That has over the years given way to the term "African-American," which, if I am correct, would be the most correct term currently. I think that black is still acceptable, but African-American is probably a little more correct, and, in a sense, more accurate, since there are a lot of dark-skinned Americans and immigrants who are Latino, Asian, Arab, etc.

2nd, I think that the US is a nation of one. This is especially true in areas such as the San Francisco Bay Area, where people of all races and ethnic backgrounds mix together socially, and in business, without a very significant amount of discrimination or hostility. I think that this is probably true to some extent now in all the big urban areas in the US, with the possible exception of some cities in the South. Years ago, growing up in Pennsylvania and living in Michigan later, racial predjudice was rampant in those areas. I don't think that it has disappeared entirley, but I do think that it is not considered to be very acceptable behavior there, as it once was.

But when I say a nation of one, I mean that black, white, or whatever, that when this country feels threatened, as it did after 9/11, the people here stand together as one. We all are proud to be Americans, even though we have a lot of differences, and even though some of us are not at all proud of some of the things that have happened in the past 5 years. Even though we disagree and have some bitter arguments, we will defend the other person's right to say what he wants, even though we totally disagree with him. The divisions in this country right now have more to do with approval or disapproval of the actions of the current administration than they have to do about race.

Does racism exist in America? Sure it does. It exists everywhere in the world, especially in Europe. In my experience, I have found Europeans, generally, to be much more racist than Americans. Just consider all the comments various BMs have said about things that are said to them or looks that they get when they are in public with their TGFs. I can't imagine that happening here. In America, we have really made tremendous strides in the direction of acceptance and tolerance between all races in the past 50 years. When there is conflict here, as I see it, it is more like members of a family fighting with each other. When the chips are down, and we are threatened by external forces, we come together as one! Plus, I really think that there are very, very few people here who actually hate anyone or would want to bring harm to anyone, because they are of a different race!

 

[laineyette]

since September 11 I see people more and more to think as a community especially in my country France
one does not make any more the effort take people individually .
the emeutes of November in France did not arrange the things .
what inquiete more it is to me the growing islamophobic: what I do not understand because all the Moslems that I know are pleasant and symphatic people .

 

[thecharleslloyd]

Then we disagree, I don't see what we learn from one person's ignorance.