The End of Bangla as a Entertainment district

[mama mia]

"big fight big fight"

don't think tiger disco is moving there, too many pillars for a discotheque, i am talking about the building next to "tonight tonight"...

 

[Sarah V]

Tiger will still be there if current owner dont want to pay the price, the landlord realised the value of the place and will run it itself if major of Patong think its too much.

All part of the game.

 

[Beth G]

Good point :rofl: if you dont like Patong the way it is (ps its called.KATA and KARON) Have a good day

 

[govind]

Agreed, please, please, please stay away from Kamala!

Please!

 

[rs_net]

Given that Phuket has become a high-end destination for the wealthy, it only makes sense that the main business area in the biggest beach town there will, in time, transition to catering to the trade of the wealthy, which will price out the mongers and most of us BMs.

But, the one factor that makes this seem less than certain, and which may account for why it hasn't happened already, is the nature of the land and its' owners in Phuket. Their considerable wealth is built upon the land, and at the core of their economic philosophy is the permanence of the land. When you own the land, then the wealth is forever, and cannot be taken from you. If you sell the land, then investments, stocks, bonds, etc., rise and fall. What seems golden one day, crumbles the next. I cannot see them being foolish enough to sell the land that has made their fortune.

Of course, in many parts of the world, where that same philosphy is adhered to, you have the 99 year lease. To get a major investor or corporation, such as Marriott, to invest the sort of capital that is required to build a first rate, high class hotel, they have to have, at least, a 99 year control of the property.

In LOS(correct me if I'm mistaken), the max lease is 30 years. I know that land is sold on the basis of 30 year leases, with two 30 yr options, for a total of 90 years(good enough), but, I have also heard it said that no one really knows whether those options are enforceable in a court of law, since the effect of them is to nullify the intent of the 30 yr limit on leases.

So, unless a major hotel operator can tie up the land, definitely, no ifs, buts, or ands, for 90 years, I don't see them paying the kind of money it would take to develop that property for high-end hotels. And I can't see the land owners selling, or even agreeing to options that would restrict their ability to charge as much as they wanted for the additional 30 yr leases.

This seems to me at the heart of why the sois are what they are, and why they may remain that way for the foreseeable future.

 

[Tamprio]

i haven't been in Phuket for a year now. I take it there is a new boxing stadium in or around Bangla?? where is the Banzaan Market?

 

[yes im pregnant w/h #2]

Well as no one seems to have taken up using it..

Phuket Information Maps - Google Maps Click the marker in the center of the screen.

Theres new roads not in google maps.. If you look at the 'satellite view' you can see how they work.

 

[sazzle]

NoBoom...Was Low season...now no seasom.... No Punters, No Baht.



Remember the spike in joiner fee's at the hotel assn. members bogs...
That was short lived...

 

[Angel T]

behind Jungceylon....been there for years mate

 

[~vanilla~]

I heard Club Galaxy is gonna relocate again :mdr: !!!

 

[tatooedpriestess]

MAI KOW CHAI

 

[Above Normal]

no one does Gizmo...just ignore him and he might go away if we are lucky!

 

[peace.love25941]

The 30 year lease is only for small people like me:rules: not 4 big companies with aaaaaaa lot of money sorry dont wanna be a smart as but just check the toyota factory outside of bkk its 100% owned by ? kampai

 

[brattylilsis25]

Just a small calculation 48 bars 3m bath 3 year contract 25000 b a month in rent. How many rooms and how much to get the same money 4 the same space??? Just asking:rofl:

 

[Catherine]

I guess if I've seen the detailed plans for this development my view is more credible than a mates-mates-BGs-uncles-nephews-tuk-tuk-drivers-rumour?
(Eff the apostrophes - I might have left some dangling and some bloody EFLT would have given me several pages worth).

The lawyer representing the owner of Patong Villa, Soi Seadragon and the land North and West of it- (which links to Patong Villa and Beach Road via that Soi/Moo with the Nepalese aforementioned stall holders which I guess will get wiped out with the first D10)- tried to lease me a shop in the Food Hall International to be built adjacent to the Hotel - approx. starting where Rastas bar is now.

The plan, now taking place, is to have two entrances to the hotel complex - one off Bangla and when that is closed ( If that continues?) the other off Beach Road.
The GEC doesn't seem to have slowed down their ambitions to create a 5 star complex for high end travellers and families - hence " the safe place to eat" Foodhall and the " safe place to shop " units.

So, bye bye cheap clothes, cheap rooms, cheap food, cheap drinks, cheap BGs and anything else under 1000B in that part of town.

And hello to 2 years of traffic gridlock like yesterday afternoon when they closed off Bangla and sent all the doubled-up traffic down Beach Rd heading into one-lane on it north of Bangla to Hat Patong.
They have already measured-up to see if they can get a semi down Soi Seadragon off Bangla - can do if they remove the centre bar stools.
So if they are trucking in off Bangla and Beach.....go East or South.

IMHO, although I am no longer a monger is that the Bangla precinct has "just enough sleaziness".
If you want less - don't penetrate the bar Sois.
If you want more - PM Nels or any of his mates.

Patong Beach is a sewer - more rooms wont improve this.
Why spend a gazillion baht to look down from upon high at swirling masses of blind mullets (which will multiply because the constipated farang snobs are all eating safe food)?

And the bastards will probably knock me down with their "running strollers" FFS!

 

[ebears]

Then look at the Millennium new hotel.. 420 rooms, with 'low season special' prices of 3500 to 11750 per night.. Assume a year round average of what 60% occupancy..

Bars are chicken feed compared to the big chain hotels. Of course thats IF they can keep room occupancy levels good over time.

 

[Ghana Banana]

why worry, you are only walking anyways!!

also, we know who f#$ks up traffic on beach road, don't we??
( most of them are red and the drivers are w#@$kers)

maybe the concrete trucks push some of the road!!:he:

 

[Cici <33]

you still got a bar then Iceman????.....