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This topic came up on another thread, and it got me curious. How many of you had ideas in massage school that completely changed once you went into practice? For example, did you intend to work in a spa and then end up specializing in orthopedic masage instead? Did you plan to work part-time and end up transitioning to full-time rather quickly? Did you mistrust energy work and then later, discover you had a gift for it? What preconceptions ended up changing for you once you were "in the field?"
 


When I started school, I thought that energy work was quackery. I went with an ego and had the attitude that I wasn't going to do any of that crazy stuff. When they started talking about grounding and doing activities to demonstrate energy I thought I was going to lose it and had to bite my tongue. Boy was I WRONG!!! My mind was quicky changed! I very clearly remember my first energy experience and how it changed my thoughts. Now, I am a total believer. I sometimes wonder why I ever thought it was crazy.
 


Had someone told me ten years ago that I would be doing energy work, I would have laughed at them. To me, it was voodoo. For that matter I had never even consided massage as a carreer until four years ago. Funny how things change with our views and our lives..... :massage:
 


How many of you had ideas in massage school that completely changed once you went into practice?

Completely! Plus, ideas we had before we actually got to massage school...

I was interested in energy psychology, but didn't know how to get started in it and didn't want to take a traditional psych program. Massage was something I had always wanted to learn anyway but it never fit into my plans previously... I figured it was "related", i.e. mind-body connection, etc, but planned for it to be just a stepping stone.

I also just wanted a job for a while after school, didn't want to start private practice immediately.

At school I learned that far from just being "related", working with the body can be the same as working with the mind.

And after graduating, I ended up starting my practice immediately... it was sooo hard to find a job in the SF market at first, I had to do SOMETHING.

I guess the whole experience could be summed up as a case of "getting what I needed rather than what I wanted". :-)
 


Hmm, in all the exercises to determine a target market while in school, I thought it would be great to specialize in geriatric massage. For various reasons, I've moved away from that idea. I work on my grandmother and realized how hard it is for elderly to get comfortable on a massage table and how much harder it is on my body to climb around on a bed giving a massage. I love having people come see me at my office rather than going to someone's home or retirement home, and have been building my practice with people who can come to me.

Another thing that really changed was my resistence to chair massage. I finally swallowed my stubborness and took a chair massage class. This opened a lot of doors to chair massage opportunities and allows me to bring in money doing massage while my table practice is still growing and can't sustain me on it's own. I still like the focus and attention I can give clients better in a full body table massage, but chair massage is a great experience doing massage in a totally different setting for a WIDE variety of people!


I love this:
EgoMagickian said:
At school I learned that far from just being "related", working with the body can be the same as working with the mind.
 
"Real Job" Burnout

I started out working information technology and reached a level of complete burnout after 10 years. I re-introduced myself to becoming a massage therapist about the time I started dating my now husband who is a massage therapy - who I had ironically slightly influencing toward massage also ten years ago.

We have had some adjustments that have not allowed time for me to yet get my private practice (such as relocating twice) to what I would like it to be but I'm enjoying the experience.
 


When I was in school I absolutely HATED giving a massage in a side lying position. I vowed that even though I wanted to do pregnancy massage that I would just get a pregnancy massage table and wouldn't have to worry about side lying. That was until I really gave it a shot on real pregnant women (instead of giving it to fellow students) and I have fallen in love. In fact my husband laughs because often times if we are at home and he wants a massage while watching t.v. I will get him set up in a side lying position because I love it that way the most :)

I haven't tried approaching any of my non pregnant clients with the idea, but I am so happy when a pregnant mama comes in and I can do the massage that I so detested in school :)
 


Michelle, I find my guys with lower back pain like a lot of those same moves that help the pregnant women. *shrug* Plus it's great for when they want you to work around the scapula! ;)

Oddly enough I thought I was going to be in private practice, maybe even working from my home because many MTs in my area do. Little did I know I'd spend most of the next 10 years in the day spa business! :shock:
 


I waas totally going to concuer the world of sports massage! Raven team here I come.

Yeah.... to much work! lol

Energy work was vodoo till I started feeling lines of energy pulsing through people. Hence my asian bodywork training.

We are always changing and revolving! Its great!
 


I always had the idea to work on my own, and do mostly therapeutic work and Medical massage. I have worked in gyms, spas, chair events, outcalls, whatever was there to pay the bills, but ultimately I had the idea in mind, and I am finally there!
 


This might sound funny but up until my first week of massage school I didn't think I could touch anybody. lol
I really had a phobia :smt102
even though I felt this way I knew I had to go through with massage school. I had been involved in natural health/ herbs for about 5 years before deciding to go to school.
Incase anyone is wondering, I don't have an issue with touching anybody now-a-days! ;)
 


Massagengel - You are not alone with your initial nervousness touching people...I remember thinking when I started school, "What am I doing?!!? My best friend since nursery school says I can't even hug people (she said this in third grade), how am I ever going to be able to massage people?!?"

Just funny...but I think that is what makes us great therapists is that we hold such reverence in touching people....

I got into massage because I wanted to be a Craniosacral Therapist...then fell in love with massage when I attended school...Thought I would be working in a integrative practice when I graduated from school - either medical massage or wellness center - really wanted to gear my work towards the chronically ill...

Two years in, I am working in a day spa and seeing of my own clients at home. I am working with chronically ill at home but am grateful for the more steady work of the day spa and the variety of clients I see who have some health challenges or none at all.

I am pursuing certification in Upledger's CST and Vodders MLD.

I have learned to adapt and be grateful and know that what I think I may need at the time may in actuality not be the best for me...I have learned to Trust in the Universe ;)
 


crystal_compass said:
Massagengel - You are not alone with your initial nervousness touching people...I remember thinking when I started school, "What am I doing?!!? My best friend since nursery school says I can't even hug people (she said this in third grade), how am I ever going to be able to massage people?!?"

Just funny...but I think that is what makes us great therapists is that we hold such reverence in touching people....

I was the same way :P
and I agree. I now am aware, respect and fully understand the importance of touch and even how we touch/hold a person.


crystal_compass said:
I am pursuing certification in Upledger's CST and Vodders MLD.

We have a Upledger's institute here in Scotland. Have you started training? If so, how would you rate the training?
I was looking at several classes here and that one was on my list. :)
Sorry to highjack the thread.
:lol:
 


When I was first in school in NJ, I remember thinking that I never wanted to work in a spa. I had the idea that all that spas did was "foofy puff puff" massage and I wanted to do "real work." I also thought all spas were basically sweatshops for MT's, burning them out and then tossing them away for the latest bank of fresh graduates.

After graduating from NY, I found that only a few spas would hire me on a limited license. I am very fortunate to be working full-time in a spa that has made some notable allowances for it's providers, such as 30 minute breaks between sessions. By having the opportunity to work frequently on greatly varying body types, I am gaining valuable experience and improving upon my skills. And I am getting to do "real" work, with repeat clients and charting their treatment and progress. I've also gained a greater respect for relaxation massage as I have gotten older and dealt with the myriad ways with how stress manifested itself in my own life.

It's not where I saw myself, nor do I intend to continue to do spa work exclusively, but I am fortunate for the experience.
 


[We have a Upledger's institute here in Scotland. Have you started training? If so, how would you rate the training?
I was looking at several classes here and that one was on my list. :)
Sorry to highjack the thread.
:lol:[/quote]

I have taken Craniosacral Therapy I. It was very good. The class was rather large but there were multiple instructors who supported the main instructor. The main instructor was an incredible teacher and presenter.

I have not gone on to the next class because they do recommend that you practice the 10 step protocol on your own for 70 hours before going on to the next level. I really want to accomplish this before the next level as well as complete reading the book for Level II.

The work though for me is just where I naturally feel I should be. I love to palpate the Craniosacral rhythm. Very cool.

If you are drawn to the work I would check out their website and get a couple of the books. One of my favourites is called "Lessons from the Sessions".

And sjidoulamt our stories are so similiar ;) I had exactly the same feelings regarding spas and like you I have found one which values massage and understands to keep the clients happy you must not overwork the therapists. As well, I work with a therapist who has been one for seven years and practices NMT. While we all can give a great relaxation massage we also do great NMT and Myofascial - I have learned a lot too!
 


i'm probably the biggest change around.... from not believing in energy work to becoming a reiki master.... to being a firm believer in massage envy to loathing the place and ready to start my own business. massage is my life, and it wasnt when i came out of school. i had no idea what to expect. i'm so grateful to have found the industry.....
 


I've only been licensed for a little more than 6 months, but in that time I've already changed from having a holier-than-thou view of "relaxation massage" :smt018 to deciding that I really enjoy it! :smt038

I used to say "I'm going to do real, therapeutic massage, not just relaxation massage." :oops:

ALL massage has benefit, in one way or another.
 


During massage school, I also had the idea that I did not want to work in a spa and would prefer working in a clinical setting doing clinical work. Now, I do work at a spa and am fortunate that it is an amazingly organized professional atmosphere, and I appreciate the fact that I am always booked at least 80% and that I have an opportunity to work with many many different personalities and body types and learn to apply my training in many different styles.

Another point that no has yet mentioned is the financial feasiblity of having a career in massage therapy. During school I had no doubts in my mind that I would immediately be able to make what I was currently making in a corporate job ($35,000/yr). Boy was I wrong! But if there is one thing that I am determined to do, it is to figure how to do it.

The third point that comes to mind was thinking that choosing to be an employee as an MT was the same as being an employee in any other profession. In some ways, ok, it kinda is. But the reality I live is that whether I am an employee or an independent contractor or building a private practice, essentially, in all the details, I am running my own business.
 
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  29. Anonymous Mask:
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  30. starartwork:
    Where does Indian SARIKA of Lily Spa work now?
  31. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Zoe - ๐Ÿ”ฅStunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality w
  32. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Midi,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Helen , Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry,๐Ÿ  address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  33. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Anika , Student pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Michelle,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella, Taiwan girl DD Boobs Thai deep massage lily,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  34. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ - An exotic tall and slim Vietn
  35. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบOpen Sunday Wonder spa(9421Jane st unit127)โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800.very big boost Joey and Sunny working today,Joey is sexy girl ,she can provide very good massage with sensual touch, nice Sunny can provide deep tissue massage,she got a lot experience,come see them today,welcome to walk in๐ŸŒบ๐Ÿ‘™much try๐Ÿท๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  36. AliceSpa:
    SUNDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด:[/color] Hot Busty BLONDE Girl today at Alice Spa: ELLA (12pm-9pm): is a small & curvy white young girl from Romania, super super busty EE Cups, blue eyes, blond hair, ok services, bbbJ cfs. Please call before booking her due to high demand. Alice Spa has DEBIT PAYMENT available now! Plenty of free parking. Front and back entrance. ALICE SPA, 4915 Steeles Ave. E,
  37. xodyhard:
    Anyone know tracy from forever spa,does anyone where she working aside in forever spa?
  38. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธYoYo๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธHellen Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  39. ASPA:
    ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐—” ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: EMMA and Best Massage RACHEL.[/color] ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable. RACHEL is a slim and attractive
  40. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Jennifer & Mia. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded. Come and give her a try, and youโ€™ll be sure to come back for more. Mia is a Caribbean service queen temptress with incredible curves & very friendly attitude. She is able to bbbj
  41. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธAmy & Suki. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills SUKI is a sexy lady, short with big boobs, medium massage & nice services. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด
  42. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธRebecca๐ŸŒธTiffanyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  43. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘body scrub๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 Nice girl Luna is joining. She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Jessica ๐Ÿ˜˜can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking space at the back door
  44. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 13 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, MALIYA, PREET, KIRAN, ANNA, NISHA, SALMA, SABHA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  45. Applover:
    This chat is something. So no one believes Markkk
  46. Applover:
    This chat is something
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Sunday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, CARA & JOLIE. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. CARA is a young & attractive Chinese attendant, 5โ€™3โ€ & 100 pounds with natural C Cup big boobs, very friendly
  48. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Helen๐ŸฅฐBrand new very young university student from Hong Kong. Great massage skills with a wild flirtatious side willing to tease and please to bring you to satisfaction. Perky natural 34C breasts perfect for kissing and body slide
  49. hiyamickey:
    Reinella wellness will have 6 girls working, young petite Japanese girl Amanda, Queenie, Lucky, Jenny, Vanessa, Ella @6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  50. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll with natural 34C melons, slim waist, & a cute little 33โ€ booty. Tiffany has incredible bbbj skills, tastes as sweet as honey