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I agree w u except the 'Jewish theocracy' part, especially since u mentioned being agnostic.
IMO, mixing government w religion, any religion that is, it's a terrible idea and leads to big trouble down the road.

I agree. A theocracy is unacceptable anywhere but in the Middle East. All the Muslim countries are theocracies.

Unfortunately, if Israel became a pure democracy, within a few elections there would be an Arab majority government, and I think we all know what would happen to Jewish Israeli citizens' rights if that were to happen.

Look on Wikipedia for the population of Jews and Christians in Muslim countries, how they have diminished since 1948, and how both Jews and Christians are treated in Muslim countries today...
 
Only tolerant to a certain extent. If assholes keep doing more border closures and disrupt people's lives by idiotic protesting, there won't be any more tolerance. The pandemic protesters did more damage to the economy than the pandemic itself. Idiots were using their own children on the border crossings in order to prevent themselves from getting arrested. Public protests should never be allowed on federal border crossings. Do it in front of your local city hall.
The biggest threat to society is anarchy.

The 2020 Floyd race riots in the U.S., included violence. Looting. Disregard to human life, property and the law - these were given a defacto pass by the left. Then no wonder you have capital hill and Ottawa convoy - tolerance of this shit breeds more of it !! We need to stop with the partisan crap and call out wrong when It is wrong !!
 
It's not ridiculous. The ridiculous part is you thinking it's ridiculous. When Biden needs to call Turdo to ask him what's going on at the border, you know it's serious. I felt like bringing a chain and dragging those people out of there from my vehicle's tow hooks myself. What good does protesting do at the end of the pandemic anyway? I hope those people rot in prison. You don't block the border where the most economic trade between 2 countries in the world happens right here. Turdo should have called in the army from day one instead of sitting on his hands. Canada made headline news around the world for the wrong reasons. It wasn't annoying, Dumbass. It was catastrophic.
You're using rhetorical arguments to try to make a quantitative argument. That doesn't make snese.

The scale of GDP loss caused by two plus years of lockdown was absolutely massive. The border issue had some short-term impact in terms of lost GDP, but by comparison, it was minuscule.

You can blah blah about "Turdo" all you want (I also don't like the guy, for what it's worth). It isn't going to change the fact you're trying to convince people that a mouse is bigger than an elephant.
 
I agree. A theocracy is unacceptable anywhere but in the Middle East. All the Muslim countries are theocracies.

Unfortunately, if Israel became a pure democracy, within a few elections there would be an Arab majority government, and I think we all know what would happen to Jewish Israeli citizens' rights if that were to happen.

Look on Wikipedia for the population of Jews and Christians in Muslim countries, how they have diminished since 1948, and how both Jews and Christians are treated in Muslim countries today...
Your point is definitely valid but a it won't help since such a theocracy would be an apartheid society that would be non-viable on a long run. As Arafat said many years ago, the Palestinian cause will prevail due to the Palestinian woman uterus.
Not an easy solution, esp. on the short term...I still think the moderate factions on both sides should engage in finding acceptable solutions on long term. Can these factions win majority support? Hard to say.
 
Me, but agnostic in practice.

I would support a 2 state solution with all Muslim countries agreeing to Israel's right to exist as a Jewish theocracy, and the Palestinians being given back a reasonable amount of land with natural resources and livable borders.

But with Hamas and Bibi in power on each side that won't happen, not to mention all the other Arab countries that want to annihilate us... :(
And why does so many people hate the Jews ? Cause the kikes ainโ€™t nice people man
Dirty greedy animals
 
There are traumatized people, psychopaths and opportunists on both sides. It is intellectually lazy to say one side are the good guys and the other side are the bad guys. If your family suffers atrocities the ones who did it are the bad guys. Tom Clancy had the idea of having a neutral third party referee a brokered two state solution. His idea was to use the Swiss Guards. While using the Swiss as referees may sound ridiculous, the sentiment makes more sense to me than any other ideas being offered.
One side have a country the other side doesn't. there is no comparison sorry on this one.
 
Not in the last 10+ years, though, when everything that was done before was reversed. Read ur history and u'll find out that a great man of peace, Yitzhak Rabin, was assassinated by a Jewish extremist.
This does not justify in any way the mass killings in cold blood that happened a week ago.
Right
 
One side have a country the other side doesn't. there is no comparison sorry on this one.
Do you think peaceful coexistence is possible and can the current leadership on all sides get there? We can make judgments and feel like we occupy the moral high ground, but that accomplishes nothing. I do not know how to make things better, but it is really easy to make things worse. Violence begets violence.
 
Vatican City is staying outside of this argumentโ€ฆ๐Ÿค”
So is the Dalai Lama๐Ÿ˜…
dalai lama shut up GIF by The Joy Experiment
 
You're using rhetorical arguments to try to make a quantitative argument. That doesn't make snese.

The scale of GDP loss caused by two plus years of lockdown was absolutely massive. The border issue had some short-term impact in terms of lost GDP, but by comparison, it was minuscule.

You can blah blah about "Turdo" all you want (I also don't like the guy, for what it's worth). It isn't going to change the fact you're trying to convince people that a mouse is bigger than an elephant.
You're not thinking that what the protesters were stating is that Canada doesn't want to do business with the rest of the world by the embarrassing act of blocking the most significant border crossing in the world. If you don't want to trade with the rest of the world, then we might as well be Nicaragua. If I was Prime Minister, the Armed Forces would have dragged these people out after the first hour of the border blockade, and send them to prison, no questions asked.
 
Do you think peaceful coexistence is possible and can the current leadership on all sides get there? We can make judgments and feel like we occupy the moral high ground, but that accomplishes nothing. I do not know how to make things better, but it is really easy to make things worse. Violence begets violence.

Yes itโ€™s possible, but it depends what Israel wants, since they have the upper hand, both militarily and the support they have from the western countries particularly the US.

If the US wants this to end, they can but most politicians in the US will not dare to challenge Israel due to the heavy influence of the Jews Americans and their long lobbying arms.

The ultra right governing Israel for the past 20 plus years reversed all progress made in Oslo accord and they will just want the Palestinian leave their homes (exiled) in the millions of them so they can have the Jews state to themselves (thatโ€™s the only reasonable conclusion that I have come to believe). And the escalation of the bombing is to force 1 million plus Palestinians into exile to Egypt and Jordan and other Arab states, similar to those 3 million that were exiled during the 60s.

Note: this does not justify the Hamas killing of innocent people.
 
Guys, I won't be "many liner" on this thread.

I just want to post some Oxford discussions from 8 years ago. From that time, Hamas got stronger, its killing got more barbaric, and Palestinians riots got more vocal and violent around the world...

Watch from 2:11

 
Guys, I won't be "many liner" on this thread.

I just want to post some Oxford discussions from 8 years ago. From that time, Hamas got stronger, its killing got more barbaric, and Palestinians riots got more vocal and violent around the world...

Watch from 2:11

There is two sides to every storyโ€ฆif you want to be balanced, you have to consider both sides.


Hamas commander me to power in Gaza in 2007 long after, Israel refused to settle the two state solution agreed by both sides.
 
There is two sides to every storyโ€ฆif you want to be balanced, you have to consider both sides.


Hamas commander me to power in Gaza in 2007 long after, Israel refused to settle the two state solution agreed by both sides.
I agree to discuss anything. I will check any link. What I am not ready is to hear under my window the Palestinan crowd in Toronto, chanting " kill them all". No, not those who were with the microphone with good English, other ones - who get here, and those who were talking in Arabick who knows what.

I don't see the difference between ISIS wiped out and Hamas. Both beheaded and raped and burned people live powerless. ISIS for religious reasons mostly (as far as I read), Hamas for political reasons.
 
I agree to discuss anything. I will check any link. What I am not ready is to hear under my window the Palestinan crowd in Toronto, chanting " kill them all". No, not those who were with the microphone with good English, other ones - who get here, and those who were talking in Arabick who knows what.

I don't see the difference between ISIS wiped out and Hamas. Both beheaded and raped and burned people live powerless. ISIS for religious reasons mostly (as far as I read), Hamas for political reasons.
I agree itโ€™s gruesome what Hamas has done. Question is, if they had fighting jets and firepower like Israel, do you think they would resort to that?

Or even better question, if Palestine had their own country, would they do that? Thatโ€™s why I think Israel is the responsible party in the first placeโ€ฆand they need to be pressured to find a lasting solution.
 
I agree itโ€™s gruesome what Hamas has done. Question is, if they had fighting jets and firepower like Israel, do you think they would resort to that?

Or even better question, if Palestine had their own country, would they do that? Thatโ€™s why I think Israel is the responsible party in the first placeโ€ฆand they need to be pressured to find a lasting solution.
The whole region needs a referee in place for a couple of peaceful and prosperous generations. Unfortunately I do not see a way for that to happen. Now would be a good time for righteous aliens, or God or mega AI to show up. Since that will not happen, history will keep repeating but with more and more sophisticated weapons, tactics and information warfare. The ultimate winners will have as their prize a pile of rubble and a despicable legacy.
 
Pepsi proposes:
a hot model giving each side a soda.
 

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Things may be about to get tense in reaction to what is going on on Israel and Gaza. Threats have already been made at a Hebrew school in Toronto. It is a good time to keep a low profile. Traumatized people are not rational. Violence begets violence. I hope I am a paranoid fool. Over the next few days it might be a good idea to Netflix and chill. Swallow your pride and de-escalate any minor arguments you get into.
dude..............chill...ive been partying and hobbying all day

fuck sars
fuck 2008 financial war
fuck pandemic
fuck anxiety
 
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    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Monday ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” Top Star Jenny, ๐Ÿ†• Elsa, Coco, Eva, Cindy, Kelly, Amber, Busty Echo, Yoyo, JPN Yui & Juliet โ€” ๐Ÿ๐ŸŽˆ Hit up 647-695-6354๐Ÿค™ or text to ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169 โœจ160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, Richmond Hill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  36. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  37. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi๏ผŒlong legs ,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair mina smile,very good looking ,strong to relax oil ,back walk,more experience โค๏ธvery sexy Vietnamese girl Amy,open maid,amazing the end,really popular,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿฅคall awesome massage ๐Ÿ‘๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน
  38. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธSamy๐ŸŒธPriya๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธIvy Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  39. DareDevil:
    366 ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : New young RMT student Helen, Fun girl Apple, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS $70 ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICKS OF THE DAY ARE ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ APPLE AND HELEN๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  40. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธCarly๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธKellyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  41. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE (2PM), ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (8PM), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (8PM), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JESSIE ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  42. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ SHERRY ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  43. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY, ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ NANCY ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  44. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on downtown Toronto 72 gerrard st west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ New girl Hitti very young๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Lisa- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too minica- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility Jennifer- Exotic beauty with... Call and text 647 891 0699 ask question :heart4 :heart4 :heart4
  45. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  46. AliceSpa:
    3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm : CLOUDIA (12pm-9pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. SKY (10:30am-9pm): is Part time girl from Indonesia, petite 5'2", B Cup, 100 Lbs, long black hair, new to the biz.Young, fresh/cute, pretty, submissive, slim tiny waist, fair skin. bbbj
  47. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Yumi & Cindy. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Yumi is a young half Chinese / /half Korean very sexy & slim beauty, can do bbbj cim, excellent services...
  48. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY, FIONA & CINDY. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. CINDY is slim
  49. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, CHRISTINA, MIA, TIFFANY & VIVI. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open mind
  50. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young pretty Lily 25โ€™s with curve body and flirty Ivy 36DD with curly body 30โ€™s open mind, young sweet popular Michelle 26โ€™s with curve body open mind and cute GFE Ella are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
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