Question Catching COVID-19 (Omicron)

You know, in a way I can see how "silencing" people on social media just ends up taunting them and creating a "martyr." On the other hand, there is people, like Jimmy the Retard, who are not bound to any rules of common sense and just run their trolling propaganda machine with overtime. Those people have to be shut down. Robert Malone has a very "trolly" vibe to him, and he sounds like a bitter old man. Trolls cannot be taken seriously, or have you ever gotten anywhere taking Jimmy seriously before?
Yeah, with respect...I could not disagree more with the notion that wrong ideas need to be "shut down". Argue with people, yes, even ridicule bad opinions, sure...but shut down, no. First, it doesn't work. Second, look at history and see how many times ideas that turned out to have value started out as being ridiculed.

I happen to disagree with JimmyD's take on this issue, but a few months back I was roughly on the same side of his political arguments. I don't think anyone, myself included, is right all the time. But the acceptance the idea of "shutting down" has gained is really worrisome and does not bode well for society.
 
Yeah, with respect...I could not disagree more with the notion that wrong ideas need to be "shut down". Argue with people, yes, even ridicule bad opinions, sure...but shut down, no. First, it doesn't work. Second, look at history and see how many times ideas that turned out to have value started out as being ridiculed.

I happen to disagree with JimmyD's take on this issue, but a few months back I was roughly on the same side of his political arguments. I don't think anyone, myself included, is right all the time. But the acceptance the idea of "shutting down" has gained is really worrisome and does not bode well for society.

When it's a matter of public safety then it has to be done. Information is very valuable, and I mean that in dollars and cents value. People like Robert Malone and Matias are exploiting the people who are prone to believe in conspiracy theories, I believe those kind of people should be silenced.

Jimmy.... not silenced but just ignored. He doesn't have any original ideas or opinions of his own. He sees the title of an article and he believes it. This guy probably never read anything, not even a comic book.
 
When it's a matter of public safety then it has to be done. Information is very valuable, and I mean that in dollars and cents value. People like Robert Malone and Matias are exploiting the people who are prone to believe in conspiracy theories, I believe those kind of people should be silenced.

Jimmy.... not silenced but just ignored. He doesn't have any original ideas or opinions of his own. He sees the title of an article and he believes it. This guy probably never read anything, not even a comic book.
You mean like the proverbial shout of "fire" in a crowded theatre? Yes, in those circumstances we have to curtail free speech, but not in the context of medical advice in a pandemic. Plus, as I've already pointed out--IT DOES NOT WORK. Joe Rogan alone has a bigger audience than most legacy media combined. All that curtailing free speech achieves is it gives a semblance of credibility to the people they try to silence. But much worse than that, if you take away speech as a tool you leave people with no other option but violence. It is curious to me how easily people have forgotten that lesson.
 

An interesting conversation amongst immunologists. It's refreshing when you can hear a group of experts talking about an issue without conspiracy dramas and pseudo science or religious hocus pocus.

@stripfan Does Jesus advocate for conspiracy theories? Sunday school me please. I could be converted, I promise you.
 
Indeed it has. As a Veterinary drug for treating worms in horses. In the correct dose, it is used in people to also treat parasitic diseases.

I think I'll disengage from this conversation. I learned long ago not to engage in conversations with people on the Internet, especially when it's clear that the other person is ill-informed. I'll just leave these two links for you and wish you well.



Is that the same FDA thatโ€™s pushing Pfizer, when Pfizerโ€™s CEO said itโ€™s ineffective against omicron?

So, are you disputing its Nobel association, or itโ€™s efficacy with that article.

You said ivermectin was hurting and killing people. Not sure how thatโ€™s a rebuttal.


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What could be the reason for this strange decision? You'll have to ask the tranny Jew who runs the health department of the USA.
 
Ya the opinion of one guy vs a massive investigation conducted by several agencies, but carry on. I'm not saying it's impossible, but seems unlikely.

I love the theory that COVID is a grand plot conducted by governments and I dunno, rich people or some shit. Then I was remembering the big dust-up between Canada and the US over milk or eggs or some fucking thing a couple of years ago. So two governments that by any measure are the best of friends literally can't agree on the price of eggs, yet governments that are sworn enemies over many decades are able to conduct this great conspiracy in complete secrecy, discovered only by a handful of YouTube Experts. (Is that a thing?) It's absolutely laughable and worthy of a Monty Python skit.
 
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People do choose not to get vaccinated for many reasons, and the vast majority of them are stupid.

And yes, I agree, there is evidence that fully vaxed people can still spread the virus, however their viral load is much smaller. Consider two people with a method of squirting water on another person. One has a fire hose. The other has a squirt gun. But yes, both have the ability to get someone else wet. Regardless, if the person they spread it to is also vaccinated, that person will be just fine.

You're making my head explode. If you actually believe this shit you're posting, then I feel sorry for you. I hope you don't catch COVID and die. But Natural Selection is a bitch.

I'm muting now. Have a nice day,

I had Covid (delta). Catch up with the discussion. I have better immunity than most now. I wonder how natural selection will work itself out with the long term effects of the Covid vaccines.

Your fire hose analogy would be good, only if the data didnโ€™t show that vaxxed and unvaxxed spread it the same. The tens of thousands of vaxxed cases in the last few months should tell you that regardless of the data though.


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I had Covid (delta). Catch up with the discussion. I have better immunity than most now. I wonder how natural selection will work itself out with the long term effects of the Covid vaccines.

Your fire hose analogy would be good, only if the data didnโ€™t show that vaxxed and unvaxxed spread it the same. The tens of thousands of vaxxed cases in the last few months should tell you that regardless of the data though.


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Alleged infection. You should include the disclaimer when speaking about your "alleged infection." So far, we are all leaning towards believing that you are secretly vaxxed and here just to troll.
 
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I haven't been following him, but the conclusions he's drawing in the piece you shared are extraordinary. The vaccines "don't work and should be taken off the market"? That in itself is an incomplete and irresponsible statement. If he'd qualified it by saying they're ineffective at limiting the spread of the infection, I'd understand...but every sign indicates the vaccines are quite effective minimizing serious cases.

I didnโ€™t share the article, but I heard him say similar things on another interview. The spike in the current vaccine does nothing for omicron, and could create problems going forward.

Everything that is happening today with the never ending boosters, the breakthrough cases etc. he talked about months ago. Not to mention the ADE.


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Yup he's on ignore now. I love a good Internet Troll but not when they're spreading information that is killing people, I have little patience. In my personal FB, I have a feature I call COVIDIOT of the Day. Generally, the featured person is (or more likely was) a COVID denier or antivaxxer that's now rotting in a hole in the ground. I'm fine with that, but what I am not fine with is when these are people that have a megaphone to spread their shit, and as a result, assist in the deaths of hundreds or thousands of people.

Bear in mind, that I work in scientific endeavours and I'm biologist by trade. Just as most things economic boil down to "supply and demand", most biological things boil down to Natural Selection. Mother Nature is currently doing a fine job of removing stupid people (and Republicans!) from the gene pool. As a biologist, I understand that over-population is the largest problem facing humanity. For decades, I've joked that the world would benefit from a good pandemic. With "only" 6 million deaths worldwide, COVID is falling short. We need to kill off about 2 - 3 billion people to make a real difference. However, it's a start, and it's always best to lose the stupid people.

Some of my colleges and I regularly engage in "What if..?" discussions. Here is a current one: What if no vaccines had been developed to fight COVID? How many would have died, and when would it end? Our best guess is that it may well have killed 100 million people, perhaps more. Still a long way shy of what we need. There is a reasonable chance we'll see another zootropic-based pandemic in our lifetimes. As populations become more and more congested (especially in Asia) and where people are obliged to eat unsafe food, it's inevitable. The development of mRNA vaccines is perhaps the greatest medical development in health care in a century, but it's not a huge stretch to imagine a viral disease that defies an effective vaccine development. Imagine if HIV spread in the same way COVID does. There's no cure for it, but it's relatively difficult to spread HIV as it requires direct mucous or blood contact. COVID spreads through atomization. Imagine walking past someone in your condo that is surrounded in an invisible cloud of HIV that you are almost guaranteed to catch.

Anyway, Jimmy is being ignored. I suspect he's vaccinated and trolling, but maybe he really is just fucking stupid as a sack of hammers.

Put that head back in the sand, bro. All the best!


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Ya the opinion of one guy vs a massive investigation conducted by several agencies, but carry on. I'm not saying it's impossible, but seems unlikely.

I love the theory that COVID is a grand plot conducted by governments and I dunno, rich people or some shit. Then I was remembering the big dust-up between Canada and the US over milk or eggs or some fucking thing a couple of years ago. So two governments that by any measure are the best of friends literally can't agree on the price of eggs, yet governments that are sworn enemies over many decades are able to conduct this great conspiracy in complete secrecy, discovered only by a handful of YouTube Experts. (Is that a thing?) It's absolutely laughable and worthy of a Monty Python skit.

None of the conspiracists have ever even accused anyone directly, just a mysterious force that cannot be named is seemingly controlling and pulling the strings.

Don't hold your breath waiting for a culprit, or evidence of it.

Maybe we can shrug it off and blame it on QAnon?
 
Hey Hornet.com. The definition of living in someoneโ€™s head is what Iโ€™m doing to Frank. Not sure thereโ€™s one post he doesnโ€™t mention my name.

Keep it coming though.


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Joe Rogan alone has a bigger audience than most legacy media combined.

Definitely the touchstone by which all major healthcare decisions should be made... the opinion of a former comedian and kickboxer (who apparently suffered some brain damage) and university drop out. I'd never heard of the guy until a few weeks ago.
 
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What could be the reason for this strange decision? You'll have to ask the tranny Jew who runs the health department of the USA.
They didn't pull them all... Just two, that are completely ineffective at treating Omicron. You might try reading the body of articles, rather than just the click-bait headline.
 
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    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Zoe - ๐Ÿ”ฅStunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality w
  32. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Midi,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Helen , Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry,๐Ÿ  address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  33. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Anika , Student pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Michelle,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella, Taiwan girl DD Boobs Thai deep massage lily,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  34. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ - An exotic tall and slim Vietn
  35. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบOpen Sunday Wonder spa(9421Jane st unit127)โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800.very big boost Joey and Sunny working today,Joey is sexy girl ,she can provide very good massage with sensual touch, nice Sunny can provide deep tissue massage,she got a lot experience,come see them today,welcome to walk in๐ŸŒบ๐Ÿ‘™much try๐Ÿท๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  36. AliceSpa:
    SUNDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด:[/color] Hot Busty BLONDE Girl today at Alice Spa: ELLA (12pm-9pm): is a small & curvy white young girl from Romania, super super busty EE Cups, blue eyes, blond hair, ok services, bbbJ cfs. Please call before booking her due to high demand. Alice Spa has DEBIT PAYMENT available now! Plenty of free parking. Front and back entrance. ALICE SPA, 4915 Steeles Ave. E,
  37. xodyhard:
    Anyone know tracy from forever spa,does anyone where she working aside in forever spa?
  38. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธYoYo๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธHellen Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  39. ASPA:
    ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐—” ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: EMMA and Best Massage RACHEL.[/color] ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable. RACHEL is a slim and attractive
  40. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Jennifer & Mia. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded. Come and give her a try, and youโ€™ll be sure to come back for more. Mia is a Caribbean service queen temptress with incredible curves & very friendly attitude. She is able to bbbj
  41. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธAmy & Suki. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills SUKI is a sexy lady, short with big boobs, medium massage & nice services. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด
  42. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธRebecca๐ŸŒธTiffanyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  43. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘body scrub๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 Nice girl Luna is joining. She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Jessica ๐Ÿ˜˜can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking space at the back door
  44. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 13 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, MALIYA, PREET, KIRAN, ANNA, NISHA, SALMA, SABHA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  45. Applover:
    This chat is something. So no one believes Markkk
  46. Applover:
    This chat is something
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Sunday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, CARA & JOLIE. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. CARA is a young & attractive Chinese attendant, 5โ€™3โ€ & 100 pounds with natural C Cup big boobs, very friendly
  48. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Helen๐ŸฅฐBrand new very young university student from Hong Kong. Great massage skills with a wild flirtatious side willing to tease and please to bring you to satisfaction. Perky natural 34C breasts perfect for kissing and body slide
  49. hiyamickey:
    Reinella wellness will have 6 girls working, young petite Japanese girl Amanda, Queenie, Lucky, Jenny, Vanessa, Ella @6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  50. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll with natural 34C melons, slim waist, & a cute little 33โ€ booty. Tiffany has incredible bbbj skills, tastes as sweet as honey