dance bars in navi mumbai

When in doubt,
one should not.

But when has a monger done what he “should not”
Lol.

Bhavra zaroor nikal padega Champa chameli ke phoolo ki sugandh lene

If Monger are Bhavra
Than who are Rajkumars….

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Bcos Late Rishi kapoor said

Bhavre ne khilaya phool phool ko legaya Rajunkwar..

Lalala lalala

Mp


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Thanks for some insights... Any suggestion on hotel in NM area

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Thanks for some insights... Any suggestion on hotel in NM area

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Soo many.
Looking at the number of hotel name plates, lagta hai ki pura nm sirf isi pe chalta hai

If the girl works in belapur ob, then go for hotel Sapphire..but it costs 3.5k.

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If Monger are Bhavra
Than who are Rajkumars….

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Bcos Late Rishi kapoor said

Bhavre ne khilaya phool phool ko legaya Rajunkwar..

Lalala lalala

Mp


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In that context,
Hum Rajkumvar hi thik hai.

You seem to be a big fan of Bollywood.
So many dialogues of so many movies….mu zubaani yaad hai.
 
Got highly drunk in my regular bar thereafter decided to check out collection at Whitehouse OB, entered around 11 pm, ordered Vodka n took my fav seat opposite stage, atmosphere was not that good, collection of girls were below avg, liked only one chick out of 15-20, tipped her few times she introduced herself as A***** from Mumbai Central, avoidable place, girlzz rating 6/10.

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Someone is killing in star city... If you are from forum.... 3 cheers

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Sorry seen ur post now otherwise would have met u.

Me and AA was standing on pan ki tapri from last half n hour

Just left for home


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I have a naive query if seniors can guide. I was not much into OB ever and was mostly satisfied by this close dances in DB. But from past few months realised this world of OB as well

I spend in my budget but i spend on 1-2 girls. Now this one girl on whom I'm spending from past few months is ready to meet.

2 questions which are stopping me....

1) Where can I take her. She said she will be free after office only. Now DB girls knows lodges but she said place u decide. Even if i book a hotel, checking in at 2 with girl be bit odd
2) How much should I pay her. Wil she ask? should i asked her? Or is there some kind of standard

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Bhai a bad suggestion from my side.
As u seen me than I only dared to explain you how i deal with ob girls.

I never pay ob girls when i take them to hotel..
It looks awkward to me to give cash to girl in room.
I only book car for them to take them from home to hotel and than home if any girl insists

I always ask girl to take off from her office as taking girl from bar kills the enjoyment you can have as she is already tired.

Best days is weekend so there is no pressure of office next day for me….

Rest the girl take care of your vantage if u make a good rapport with her in bars…

Mp


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Bhai a bad suggestion from my side.
As u seen me than I only dared to explain you how i deal with ob girls.

I never pay ob girls when i take them to hotel..
It looks awkward to me to give cash to girl in room.
I only book car for them to take them from home to hotel and than home if any girl insists

I always ask girl to take off from her office as taking girl from bar kills the enjoyment you can have as she is already tired.

Best days is weekend so there is no pressure of office next day for me….

Rest the girl take care of your vantage if u make a good rapport with her in bars…

Mp


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I was looking for something of that sort!!! Hopefully will do it this way

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I was looking for something of that sort!!! Hopefully will do it this way

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Bhai Don’t misunderstand my point
I pay her before or another day as collection in the bar.
No Girl will come for free even one look likes Tom Cruise.

Mp


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Bhai Don’t misunderstand my point
I pay her before or another day as collection in the bar.
No Girl will come for free even one look likes Tom Cruise.

Mp


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I ment that only, pay in bar

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Btw where was u sitting
I was the guy in black shirt.


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I was sitting in a corner chair. Was you part of a group of 5 men who came, blow some cash in 45 min and then left

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I was sitting in a corner chair. Was you part of a group of 5 men who came, blow some cash in 45 min and then left

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Nopes
I was the guy whom u mentioned in the earlier post.

The stage dancer ( white wali) who was show stopper was dancing on my table.

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Nopes
I was the guy whom u mentioned in the earlier post.

The staged dancer ( white wali) who was show stopper was dancing on my table.

Mp


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Got it .. 2/3 table after you enter on right

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