Chat Does my favourite MPA like me or not???

[Homerun001]

I will give this serious thought. It's basically akin to hiring someone to try and seduce your wife. We all know that under the right circumstances and with the right person, even our spouses would be extremely vulnerable. Now do this test in an MP environment...you know where I'm going. Not sure it's a fair fight. I like that you will let me define the protocols but how can I be sure you'll honor them?

Also, can you tell me a bit more about yourself, i.e. nationality, approximate age, etc.

You can PM me this info if you don't want to post it.

When you post something on here, everyone has the right to provide comments positive, negative whatever and sometimes it not what you want to hear, but most take the time to write the pros and cons based on their experiences. If you are a happily or unhappily married man, and thinking of leaving your present home or having a relationship with a MPA and living a double life, go for it but the majority have concluded that the odds are against you as long as the MPA is currently working unless you can handle her occupation and her outcalls to see clients. Fix your problems at home and hobby when you feel the need to, an MPA will only complicate your life more once your emotions go too deep. As most have said , keep the fantasy where it belongs, reality can sting your life to a dark side.

 

[freewilly416]

She likes you, or to be more specific your cash.

If you were broke you think she’d give you the time of the day?

In this hobby, the girls love of you is firstly measured in cold hard cash. Then it’s secondary that you’re a pleasant fellow, and even better if you’re easy on the eyes. Don’t ever believe otherwise

 

[Leviathan]

Yawn. Dime a dozen. This topic has been beaten to death for the last decade. Same advice. But just different characters. Over and out. I’m outta here. You will see another topic like this in a few months.

Good luck.

 

[Massxprt]

I HAVE definitely thought about that but I don't know anybody here and don't know who to trust. Plus, I'll be honest, I don't know if I can handle it if she ends up being like this with others. Would you agree to back off once we find out how far she goes with you? Anyways, let me think about it.

I too have been down this road many times. I have had multi year relationships outside the spa that were completely consensual and free. I still stay in touch with a beautiful woman who got out of the business. We ' traveled together a few times, her kids know me etc.

Here's what I've found. There are the pro's and nothing will change them. Their souls are gone. Then there are the "normal" women mostly older Asians who are here alone or with kids trying to make ends meet. I've met these type mostly in places that are legit or trying to look legit. I'll bet your sweetheart is newer to the game and hasn't had time to fall into the abys.

If you're married and want to stay that way forget about a relationship. I'm now single but entered the hobby when my ex and I started sleeping at opposite ends of the house. Indeed there are lots of Asian MPA 's looking for a guy to free them from the business. Not Gold diggers per se but who want to find a relationship.

I'm a good looking wealthy guy who can find lots of women. I hobby for the fun and the fact that it's untethered versus women who constantly try to put hooks in me. Yes!!! Get the other gentleman to try her. Get a friend you trust to try her or let me try her except a warning, I might break your heart Three times in my life I've been dating women and banged their best friends.
But buddy, yes she likes you. Only 3 outcomes: She agrees to be "second woman status which some Chinese do but it will cost you over time. 2: you fuck up your marriage and wake up one day realizing it wasn't worth it. 3: You find out she's just another ho. On this note beware. She may duck others she doesn't care about for the money while leaving you hanging because she wants you to think she's a nice. I got that T-shirt.

Run the rest and find out. And p!ease let us all know.

 

[OG_funguy]

I too have been down this road many times. I have had multi year relationships outside the spa that were completely consensual and free. I still stay in touch with a beautiful woman who got out of the business. We ' traveled together a few times, her kids know me etc.

Here's what I've found. There are the pro's and nothing will change them. Their souls are gone. Then there are the "normal" women mostly older Asians who are here alone or with kids trying to make ends meet. I've met these type mostly in places that are legit or trying to look legit. I'll bet your sweetheart is newer to the game and hasn't had time to fall into the abys.

If you're married and want to stay that way forget about a relationship. I'm now single but entered the hobby when my ex and I started sleeping at opposite ends of the house. Indeed there are lots of Asian MPA 's looking for a guy to free them from the business. Not Gold diggers per se but who want to find a relationship.

I'm a good looking wealthy guy who can find lots of women. I hobby for the fun and the fact that it's untethered versus women who constantly try to put hooks in me. Yes!!! Get the other gentleman to try her. Get a friend you trust to try her or let me try her except a warning, I might break your heart Three times in my life I've been dating women and banged their best friends.
But buddy, yes she likes you. Only 3 outcomes: She agrees to be "second woman status which some Chinese do but it will cost you over time. 2: you fuck up your marriage and wake up one day realizing it wasn't worth it. 3: You find out she's just another ho. On this note beware. She may duck others she doesn't care about for the money while leaving you hanging because she wants you to think she's a nice. I got that T-shirt.

Run the rest and find out. And p!ease let us all know.

Thanks! You definitely sound like you've been down this road many times before. My sweetie is definitely not a "pro" but more like your second description. Out of your 3 outcomes, none of them seem likely. It's definitely not #3. I know it's hard for many to believe but there are women in this business that are not gold diggers and she's one of them. She's had so many opportunities to get "help" from me but she declines. She's a very proud and simple woman. She has a strong passion for the Arts (e.g. music, drawing, etc.). Her passion hardly costs anything and consumes all her free time (thus, she doesn't need much money to be happy). Because she's so proud and stubborn, I don't think #1 would happen either. Realistically, based on the advice from most here, I'll try to slowly distance myself and build rapport with other MPAs to help take the pain away (and no, I definitely won't fall into this emotional trap again).

Things would only get complicated if she actually had very strong feelings for me and did all she could to not lose me. If this were to happen, then your #2 could definitely come into play and like you said, I could wake up one day and truly regret it. However, because of her pride and belief system, this is unlikely as well. To give you an example, I was telling her that I was losing money in the stock market recently. She then proceeds to tell me a story how she once lost almost all her savings because of a bad investment that someone persuaded her to get into. I said you must have been so pissed. But no...she said by accepting that loss, it just means she avoided something even worse from happening (like loss of someone close to her). If she eventually lost me for good, she would be hurt but would just accept it and rationalize it by convincing herself that fate has a better outcome for her down the road. This is her mentality and makes her mentally strong as a rock (which ironically is one of the things I like about her). I must admit her story, as silly as it sounds, has actually helped me get over my own trivial monetary losses too. And she has many similar beliefs that I have applied to my life as well.

Anyways, at some point, when I've properly distanced myself and can handle the outcome, I may take the other gentleman's offer (if it still stands) to see if I was accurate with my assessment of her or just another schmuck. Or maybe I'll just give you her details. Who knows...since you're single, maybe you'll fall for her too and provide her a nice life. In return, you can just let her give me a massage from time to time

 

[King Arthur]

Man you are naive. If this girl could have asked you for stuff but did not ask that means nothing because these girls have multiple guys they play for different things. She likes you where she has you so she does not ask for more. She likes the arts so what I knew a whore that collected art and it not make her mentality any different from the ones that collected shoes. Do not fall for the girls that seem classy because they are probably crazier underneath or else they would do be doing something classy instead of taking rando dick. Keep it all business and respect the girls that do the same or you are asking to get played.

 

[Jethro Tull]

Why not just stop seeing her at work and see if things continue outside of work or does the whole thing die off?

 

[gottahobby]

Given the length of this thread it may be one of the greatest trolls ever in this forum!

Have to admit I got caught in it too, but no more for me...

 

[Shag]

Why not just stop seeing her at work and see if things continue outside of work or does the whole thing die off?

Exactly.
How many people visit their SO at work for chit chat.
The only way you can call a relationship between you and a sex worker is by having a normalized relationship outside of the spa
The time outside of the spa should also include minimal cost activities, going for a walk, movie inexpensive dinner.

 

[OG_funguy]

Why not just stop seeing her at work and see if things continue outside of work or does the whole thing die off?

Thanks for the advice. This is what I intend to do but it won't happen all at once (that will be too difficult for me). I'll try to scale down gradually until visits are almost non-existent and then we'll see what happens next.

 

[Massxprt]

Thanks! You definitely sound like you've been down this road many times before. My sweetie is definitely not a "pro" but more like your second description. Out of your 3 outcomes, none of them seem likely. It's definitely not #3. I know it's hard for many to believe but there are women in this business that are not gold diggers and she's one of them. She's had so many opportunities to get "help" from me but she declines. She's a very proud and simple woman. She has a strong passion for the Arts (e.g. music, drawing, etc.). Her passion hardly costs anything and consumes all her free time (thus, she doesn't need much money to be happy). Because she's so proud and stubborn, I don't think #1 would happen either. Realistically, based on the advice from most here, I'll try to slowly distance myself and build rapport with other MPAs to help take the pain away (and no, I definitely won't fall into this emotional trap again).

Things would only get complicated if she actually had very strong feelings for me and did all she could to not lose me. If this were to happen, then your #2 could definitely come into play and like you said, I could wake up one day and truly regret it. However, because of her pride and belief system, this is unlikely as well. To give you an example, I was telling her that I was losing money in the stock market recently. She then proceeds to tell me a story how she once lost almost all her savings because of a bad investment that someone persuaded her to get into. I said you must have been so pissed. But no...she said by accepting that loss, it just means she avoided something even worse from happening (like loss of someone close to her). If she eventually lost me for good, she would be hurt but would just accept it and rationalize it by convincing herself that fate has a better outcome for her down the road. This is her mentality and makes her mentally strong as a rock (which ironically is one of the things I like about her). I must admit her story, as silly as it sounds, has actually helped me get over my own trivial monetary losses too. And she has many similar beliefs that I have applied to my life as well.

Anyways, at some point, when I've properly distanced myself and can handle the outcome, I may take the other gentleman's offer (if it still stands) to see if I was accurate with my assessment of her or just another schmuck. Or maybe I'll just give you her details. Who knows...since you're single, maybe you'll fall for her too and provide her a nice life. In return, you can just let her give me a massage from time to time

No I won't fall in love her or any of them any more. Sure, I will get attached and enjoy one for a little while. Run the test. PM me, the other guy or get a friend to do it. I'm the hobby we get fooled into " Groundhog Day". Somehow in our heads, we forget that she just came out of the room with another and there's someone else waiting after you. I'll admit putting subhead to the wall when waiting for the MPA I'm waiting for to finish with another guy. Can you hear talking, moaning, a rhythmic sound.

Run a test and find out. Hey she's with other guys. Just get one that will describe it to you afterward. I did on several i liked. I'm finally cured!

 

[Shag]

No I won't fall in love her or any of them any more. Sure, I will get attached and enjoy one for a little while. Run the test. PM me, the other guy or get a friend to do it. I'm the hobby we get fooled into " Groundhog Day". Somehow in our heads, we forget that she just came out of the room with another and there's someone else waiting after you. I'll admit putting subhead to the wall when waiting for the MPA I'm waiting for to finish with another guy. Can you hear talking, moaning, a rhythmic sound.

Run a test and find out. Hey she's with other guys. Just get one that will describe it to you afterward. I did on several i liked. I'm finally cured!

LMAO

spying to confirm trust

That would be one secret you would have to take to the grave

If that is what you got to do, you she re-think where you troll for love.

 

[OG_funguy]

No I won't fall in love her or any of them any more. Sure, I will get attached and enjoy one for a little while. Run the test. PM me, the other guy or get a friend to do it. I'm the hobby we get fooled into " Groundhog Day". Somehow in our heads, we forget that she just came out of the room with another and there's someone else waiting after you. I'll admit putting subhead to the wall when waiting for the MPA I'm waiting for to finish with another guy. Can you hear talking, moaning, a rhythmic sound.

Run a test and find out. Hey she's with other guys. Just get one that will describe it to you afterward. I did on several i liked. I'm finally cured!

LOL - so when you put your head to the wall, which sound did you hear the most? Hopefully, it wasn't moaning and rhythmic sound together...
Did you ever catch your fave(s) in a lie? What did you find out during your "tests" and how did you feel afterwards? Did you regret it?

 

[OG_funguy]

LMAO

spying to confirm trust

That would be one secret you would have to take to the grave

If that is what you got to do, you she re-think where you troll for love.

I agree. Like so many of you have said, the nature of the business they're in makes trust very difficult. My own advice to any future poster who finds himself in a similar situation is to STOP!!!, it's not worth the heartache and insecurity. Unfortunately, I'm in so deep that it's hard to follow my own advice but I'm going to try. She has a China trip coming up so I won't see her for a while. This may be just what I need to take a break and get on with my life. Of course, she took this trip last year as well and as soon as she gets back, the "tender" messages start all over again, i.e. Honey, I'm back. Miss you...when can I see you? etc...I must admit, I like it though.

 

[Homerun001]

I agree. Like so many of you have said, the nature of the business they're in makes trust very difficult. My own advice to any future poster who finds himself in a similar situation is to STOP!!!, it's not worth the heartache and insecurity. Unfortunately, I'm in so deep that it's hard to follow my own advice but I'm going to try. She has a China trip coming up so I won't see her for a while. This may be just what I need to take a break and get on with my life. Of course, she took this trip last year as well and as soon as she gets back, the "tender" messages start all over again, i.e. Honey, I'm back. Miss you...when can I see you? Blah, blah blah...

What trust does a hobbyist expect if he engages in a relationship with a current MPA?. Tell her to stop or limit her menu? The MPA makes a living with providing us with our fantasy, and we all know what goes on, and you have to accept and respect it, if you go down this road, accept it or have a full stock of pepto for when your jealous thoughts take control of you.

 

[Massxprt]

LOL - so when you put your head to the wall, which sound did you hear the most? Hopefully, it wasn't moaning and rhythmic sound together...
Did you ever catch your fave(s) in a lie? What did you find out during your "tests" and how did you feel afterwards? Did you regret it?

I listen for the faster cadence of and HJ or the slower cadence of FS. His moans are ok. Can be HJ. Her moans means he's doing something to her.Ptretty Simple right?

Yes. I've done the spy missions. Often i predict the result. Sometimes I'm shocked. What you might find as I have, is a girl who won't do you is trying to convince you she's a nice girl, but then you find out she will go nuts on some random guy.

You sir, need to run a test. It will either cure you or confirm your infatuation with this woman.

 

[OG_funguy]

"What you might find as I have, is a girl who won't do you is trying to convince you she's a nice girl, but then you find out she will go nuts on some random guy."

Although unlikely with my sweetie, I'm not naive enough to think this can't happen. That's the problem, it's like a lose-lose situation.

 

[Greenberg]

Although unlikely with my sweetie, I'm not naive enough to think this can't happen. That's the problem, it's like a lose-lose situation.

My friend, have you no backbone? You been in a state of indecision for a prolonged period seeking advice from strangers. And yet, when provided with a full spectrum of views — some good, some bad, and a few ridiculous— you remain wildly nilly, no better off than when you first started. Have you reflected on the possibility that you lack the character of a man who knows what he wants and goes for it without abandonment? Please, please, don’t be a loser and waste our time!

 

[Leviathan]

I suspect the objective of OPs post is to find out if anyone has or thought they had discovered a unique relationship with a “good special girl” who is different from the herd. This “sweet heart” has emotionally touched him at his core.

It’s validation that he found a special “diamond in the rough”. Unless someone can tell him a horror story which hits too close to home , he will continue and explore the fantasy. The typical untrustworthy, low success probability and whore arguements don’t work.

It’s human nature - “this time is different.” It’s the thrill of the chase. He made up his mind before the post. It was purely a “safety check” if anyone out there experienced exactly his situation.

I have a personal story. But will not disclose it. The human mind and emotions does funny things to rationalize things.

My friend, have you no backbone? You been in a state of indecision for a prolonged period seeking advice from strangers. And yet, when provided with a full spectrum of views — some good, some bad, and a few ridiculous— you remain wildly nilly, no better off than when you first started. Have you reflected on the possibility that you lack the character of a man who knows what he wants and goes for it without abandonment? Please, please, don’t be a loser and waste our time!

 

[OG_funguy]

My friend, have you no backbone? You been in a state of indecision for a prolonged period seeking advice from strangers. And yet, when provided with a full spectrum of views — some good, some bad, and a few ridiculous— you remain wildly nilly, no better off than when you first started. Have you reflected on the possibility that you lack the character of a man who knows what he wants and goes for it without abandonment? Please, please, don’t be a loser and waste our time!

I don't think I'm being willy nilly. I've already stated, based on the advice of most here on my post, that my goal is to slowly distance myself from my honey until I either stop seeing her completely or just visit her once in a blue moon. When I first started my post, that was not my position so yes, I am taking action.