Chat Moments of apparent clarity

It sounds like you can relate. Our busy brains keep our lives and incomes going, but they can interfere with enjoying simple pleasures.
Interfere.. sometimes. But usually, the MPA, has every answer. Just depends on the mpa.
 
I had my moment of clarity when I was doggying a well-reviewed highly recommended SP. I went in expecting an angel but what I saw was an emotionally broken girl with a multiverse portal for a pussy. I pounded and pounded for 20 mins wishing for that sweet release while she fake-moaned with her face buried in the sheets. During this, I glanced at the mirror - two young sexy figures in the most intimate act, a scene for a classical painting perhaps, but emotionally on different continents. And that's when it hit me - I'm trying to satisfy my hunger with soda pop. It's never gonna fill me and nourish me and the hunger is gonna get worse and worse. Anyway, long story short, I fake-cummed and got tf outta there. And I've since lost any desire to see any MPA or SP

Sad but true. This made me that think that for lots of guys, all they have access to is the soda pop. Nobody chooses this intentionally!

That said, it's a lot better than living a sexually repressed lifestyle. So I agree with everything you said except the ending.... I still think guys should still see MPAs or SPs to satisfy their sexual impulse, but more important to recognize that it's not a substitute for an emotionally fullfilling sex life.
 
That is another valid point of view. In my life long experience, the jokes about the change in attitude of a woman toward sex and satisfying a partner often become reality once they have security locked in.
That is where the deviation from the monogamous life and marriage gets a foothold. Even some fake moans and a welcoming paid pussy are better that a scowl and repeated rejection.

If the gods smile on you and you meet a partner, even a professional that genuinely enjoys you and sex with you, its is fantastic.
 
No matter where, when and how one puts it, these girls are there to make money, period. Some are more natural to imitate intimacy, some even enjoy it to a degree, quite a few of them are really good at acting. No wonder itโ€™s the most ancient profession! But at the end of the day, all illusions aside, itโ€™s really only our cash that these women are after, and no amount of self persuasion will ever change that fact. There are really only four questions that one needs to be able to ask themselves before they go in: Who am I; where am I; why am I here; why do I need that. If you can ask yourself these and be fine with the answers, enjoy yourself and keep hobbying. Otherwise, move on to find another one, or youโ€™ll be in everlasting conflict with yourself.
 
Perhaps the real issue is with Nature itself. We are compelled to procreate, whether or not that is good for us personally (for example unwanted pregnancy or toxic partners). And we are compelled to survive in the short term, whether or not the methods we use serve us personally in the long term (e.g. having a well paid job that we hate). Us older guys have resources but not desirable bodies. Vice-versa for sex workers. But we are all human beings with needs for validation, acceptance and community. Once our basic needs are met we anguish over higher needs. Some of us become cold blooded (I definitely experienced that with SWs in Amsterdam). Some of us get out of the paid sex scene. Some become friends with SWs or customers. I just try to enjoy the sex, but it is hard to not ruminate. But the fact that I do means my basic needs are being met, so that is a positive. The fairest negotiations leave both parties at least a little dissatisfied.
 
Your thinking about a different Chanel broski. The one useful is talking about is the same girl I called Coco. She started out at YI Ren back in 2019 for Michelle, then she worked again for Michelle when she purchased Candy Spa.
Coco/Chanel has a mother who suffers from schizophrenia, I fear Chanel also began exhibiting symptoms of it here in Canada. You hired her over at QQ spa for a while under the name Nikki.
And yes she is Taiwanese, but hasn't gone back to Taiwan since moving to Canada, her age would be about 24 now.
I do not know why you guys are interested in who I saw, but if if helps these are the notes I took: "Taiwanese background, 5'8", slender, about 22, small breasts, beautiful, nice skin and bum. Friendly, low energy, sexy. Massage, tease, CBJ, 69, cowgirl, HJ. $50 room + $150 for extras". I saw her on 25July2020. Keep in mind I am not a good judge of height and age. And yes, I am a nerd who tracks a lot of things concerning my health and activities.

While I am here, in my last post I alluded to but did not mention Maslow's Hierarchy of needs. Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs Theory
 
I do not know why you guys are interested in who I saw, but if if helps these are the notes I took: "Taiwanese background, 5'8", slender, about 22, small breasts, beautiful, nice skin and bum. Friendly, low energy, sexy. Massage, tease, CBJ, 69, cowgirl, HJ. $50 room + $150 for extras". I saw her on 25July2020. Keep in mind I am not a good judge of height and age. And yes, I am a nerd who tracks a lot of things concerning my health and activities.

While I am here, in my last post I alluded to but did not mention Maslow's Hierarchy of needs. Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs Theory
I just cringe tipping a girl that much. I have had great sex for less. But thats me.
 
No matter where, when and how one puts it, these girls are there to make money, period. Some are more natural to imitate intimacy, some even enjoy it to a degree, quite a few of them are really good at acting. No wonder itโ€™s the most ancient profession! But at the end of the day, all illusions aside, itโ€™s really only our cash that these women are after, and no amount of self persuasion will ever change that fact. There are really only four questions that one needs to be able to ask themselves before they go in: Who am I; where am I; why am I here; why do I need that. If you can ask yourself these and be fine with the answers, enjoy yourself and keep hobbying. Otherwise, move on to find another one, or youโ€™ll be in everlasting conflict with yourself.
A girl will give up cash if she doesnโ€™t like you, and will take less cash if she does like you. So more complicated then you imply.
 
A girl will give up cash if she doesnโ€™t like you, and will take less cash if she does like you. So more complicated then you imply.
True that. But no, itโ€™s not complicated, itโ€™s a standard business practice. And they are still there for cash, whichever way you look at it, because they are at work. I myself have fired clients at work that I didnโ€™t like, even if it meant a temporary monetary loss, and gave discounts to the ones that I did, albeit to a very few of them. You often have to put on a mask. Itโ€™s just business. I need not to imply, Iโ€™m being rather straightforward.
 
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True that. But they are still there for cash, whichever way you look at it. I myself have fired clients at work that I didnโ€™t like, even if it meant a temporary monetary loss, and gave discounts to the ones that I did, albeit to a very few of them. You often have to put on a mask. Itโ€™s just business. I need not to imply, Iโ€™m being rather straightforward.
For me it is like seeing a movie. Suspend disbelief when you are in the MP, return to reality when you leave. I do not need the MPA to have real feelings for me, just to treat me well. I do not believe anything they say but I appreciate it when they work hard to please me.
 
For me it is like seeing a movie. Suspend disbelief when you are in the MP, return to reality when you leave. I do not need the MPA to have real feelings for me, just to treat me well. I do not believe anything they say but I appreciate it when they work hard to please me.
Exactly.
 
True that. But no, itโ€™s not complicated, itโ€™s a standard business practice. And they are still there for cash, whichever way you look at it, because they are at work. I myself have fired clients at work that I didnโ€™t like, even if it meant a temporary monetary loss, and gave discounts to the ones that I did, albeit to a very few of them. You often have to put on a mask. Itโ€™s just business. I need not to imply, Iโ€™m being rather straightforward.
It is because you said โ€these girls are there to make money, period.โ€

With that โ€œperiodโ€ , I disagree.
 
For me it is like seeing a movie. Suspend disbelief when you are in the MP, return to reality when you leave. I do not need the MPA to have real feelings for me, just to treat me well. I do not believe anything they say but I appreciate it when they work hard to please me.
Agree to a point. But when a girl digs you a bit, it is fun.
 
It is because you said โ€these girls are there to make money, period.โ€

With that โ€œperiodโ€ , I disagree.
Thatโ€™s fine. But wether we like it or not, the reason they are there is to make money, because they are at WORK.
 
We all go to work to make money, but there are definitely customers we like less or more. And no matter how professional one is at the job every pro is still human, so I wouldn't completely discount the possibility of developing human feelings. Whether that is a good thing or not is debatable, but the involved parties should recognize those developments and tread mindfully of the potential consequences.
 
We all go to work to make money, but there are definitely customers we like less or more. And no matter how professional one is at the job every pro is still human, so I wouldn't completely discount the possibility of developing human feelings. Whether that is a good thing or not is debatable, but the involved parties should recognize those developments and tread mindfully of the potential consequences.
Ummโ€ฆ soโ€ฆ what, turn down the discounts & free xxxtras?

:lol

Nahโ€ฆ.
 
We all go to work to make money, but there are definitely customers we like less or more. And no matter how professional one is at the job every pro is still human, so I wouldn't completely discount the possibility of developing human feelings. Whether that is a good thing or not is debatable, but the involved parties should recognize those developments and tread mindfully of the potential consequences.
Agreed that the girls are "at work", however few jobs, in fact no other job I know means getting "physically intimate ". Notice I did not say becoming intimate in a mental sense, some girls can completely distance their thoughts from an encounter where they are doing the same things physically with a total stranger .. or a "regular" as they do with a S.O.
Others can develop big issues with this and that is where many turn to a diversion of reality such as coke or other pharmaceuticals to escape the mental ties. The money can be great, however the mental attachment given the right chemistry can be a torture.
This can be the case for the provider or the client, or both in these "business arrangements". I'm sure many of us have been there.
 
Agreed that the girls are "at work", however few jobs, in fact no other job I know means getting "physically intimate ". Notice I did not say becoming intimate in a mental sense, some girls can completely distance their thoughts from an encounter where they are doing the same things physically with a total stranger .. or a "regular" as they do with a S.O.
Others can develop big issues with this and that is where many turn to a diversion of reality such as coke or other pharmaceuticals to escape the mental ties. The money can be great, however the mental attachment given the right chemistry can be a torture.
This can be the case for the provider or the client, or both in these "business arrangements". I'm sure many of us have been there.
Definite hobbying hazard.

Acceptable risk IMHO!

:)
 
Thatโ€™s fine. But wether we like it or not, the reason they are there is to make money, because they are at WORK.
I think I have a healthy relationship with my regulars. I treat them well, and they treat me well. Human moments do happen, and I value them, but only in the MP. I hobby for fun and adventure, not for love. If anyone has greater emotional needs than this they should get girlfriends.
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅBEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Tina๐Ÿ˜˜- A sexy new petite girl from Singapore w
  38. wonderspa:
    . ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Tuesday RMT available, Today's special recommendation ๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi,natural c cup,very good looking nice body slide,really popular ๐Ÿ˜ป ๐ŸŽlong hair Lucy Q smile,very good strong to relax oil massage, Relieve pain and remove stress,more experience .must try๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ’‹give you amazing time๐Ÿ”ฅ
  39. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Molly๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜Our new quick witted and funny girl Molly is here to entertain you not only with her sensual massage skills but also with her sense of humour and her happy go lucky friendly attitude. Molly, a fair skinned mixed race beauty h
  40. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธAnna๐ŸŒธAmberCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  41. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: JENNY, MIMI, & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. JENNY is a sweet & young Korean girl with C Cups. Very versatile services. MIMI is a slim & busty Asian/Euro mix beauty, 50Kgs & 1M60. Mimi has a very versatile range of services. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll with natural 34C melons, slim waist
  42. SugarLoveSpa:
    hi Sugar Love Spa today have ๐Ÿ‘™Mimi, ๐Ÿ‘™Jenny, ๐Ÿ‘™Tifany come to enjoy perfect time Sugar Love spaโ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 365-2688๐Ÿ“ฒโ˜Ž๏ธ
  43. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMA, YOYO & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. YOYO is a very beautiful slim Chinese lady, 165Cms & 116 Lbs with natural D Cups & a VERY sexy figure. She provides the best versatile services. YOYO is a hidden GEM, & a total SUPERSTAR!
  44. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Helen ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  45. Moneylee:
    full season wellness center: NewYoung girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Cherry ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Selena ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  46. HollywoodSpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: COCO & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž COCO is an attractive attendant with nice massage skills & good services. SISI is a sweet slim beauty, 5โ€™2โ€, with a beauty ass, excellent massage, and amazing services. Come and see why she is so popular. When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care
  47. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day, Young Cute Chinese Jesse, Slim Petite Chinese Vivi & Young Slim Sexy Chinese Faye
  48. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today.Young pretty Vicky 25โ€™s with curve body good massage and young sweet Mia 25โ€™s good massage, young cute Sophia 27โ€™s slime and nice GFE Lina and young student Taiwanese Victoria 25โ€™s slime open mind are providing deep tissue and sensual massage,pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  49. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  50. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 13 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MONICA, ASHA, SARIKA, AMMU, MONIKA, ANGEL, AMANDA, PREETI, ANGELINA, NISHA, DIYA, SALMA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
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