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"Spicy Club" scams!
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Hi, avoided the touts and walked into "Spicy Club" in Soi Sea Dragon the other day, thinking that I would pay the normal price for the drink and ordered an orange juice.
To my surprise they wanted 400 baht for the drink!:aww:
I thought if you walked in by yourself you would avoid to be overcharged and pay commission to the touts, but obviously not!:neutral:
Saw a sign reading that the second softdrink would be 120 baht I think!
I payed with a thousand baht note, but when I counted the change there was only 500 baht!?
I took a deeper look into the folder and discovered another 100 baht wrapped up into a small package and placed way down in one of the side pockets of the folder!
I guess they figured out that some tourists won't check their change, but if they did and complained the service guys would just fish up that other note and give them!
Sneaky guys!
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About the "Shows" just an ugly old ***** squeezing out some poor fish and some undescribable little furry animals from her neither regions!
Show didn't last more than 2 minutes max!
The rest of the GoGo dancers in there, where an ugly old bunch as well, just one younger average looking girl wearing a cowboy hat...guess she was the "Superstar" of the place!
A total ripoff, and I wasn't the only guest, at 21.30 the place was filled to the rim with unaware tourists picked up by the touts on Soi Bangla!
2 ugly dancers came and sat next to me and immediately preyed for drinks, and another girl came up with a bowl and asked for "tip for show", but they didn't score from me... I left the place!:dlb:
Walked up to "Crazy Girls" instead, very comfy lounge with lowlying sofas to relax in and view the much better looking and energetic GoGo dancers!
2 cute and friendly young ladies came after a while and sat down with me and kept me company for quite a while and they didn't even ask for LDs, and almost looked surprised when I finally asked them if they'd fancy a drink!:redface:
Softdrinks in here was the normal 100-120 baht, and no ripoffs!
I was surprised when they told me that it's the same owner as "Spicy Club"!
To my surprise they wanted 400 baht for the drink!:aww:
I thought if you walked in by yourself you would avoid to be overcharged and pay commission to the touts, but obviously not!:neutral:
Saw a sign reading that the second softdrink would be 120 baht I think!
I payed with a thousand baht note, but when I counted the change there was only 500 baht!?
I took a deeper look into the folder and discovered another 100 baht wrapped up into a small package and placed way down in one of the side pockets of the folder!
I guess they figured out that some tourists won't check their change, but if they did and complained the service guys would just fish up that other note and give them!
Sneaky guys!
: About the "Shows" just an ugly old ***** squeezing out some poor fish and some undescribable little furry animals from her neither regions!
Show didn't last more than 2 minutes max!
The rest of the GoGo dancers in there, where an ugly old bunch as well, just one younger average looking girl wearing a cowboy hat...guess she was the "Superstar" of the place!
A total ripoff, and I wasn't the only guest, at 21.30 the place was filled to the rim with unaware tourists picked up by the touts on Soi Bangla!
2 ugly dancers came and sat next to me and immediately preyed for drinks, and another girl came up with a bowl and asked for "tip for show", but they didn't score from me... I left the place!:dlb:
Walked up to "Crazy Girls" instead, very comfy lounge with lowlying sofas to relax in and view the much better looking and energetic GoGo dancers!
2 cute and friendly young ladies came after a while and sat down with me and kept me company for quite a while and they didn't even ask for LDs, and almost looked surprised when I finally asked them if they'd fancy a drink!:redface:
Softdrinks in here was the normal 100-120 baht, and no ripoffs!
I was surprised when they told me that it's the same owner as "Spicy Club"!
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Just what is it, that you would expect the Tourist Police to do?
The touts don't seem to be doing anything illegal in Thailand. From what's posted up above, the price for a SECOND drink is 130 baht, and if the poor visitor doesn't argue the point, the price of the first drink will be 400 or 500 baht, which apparently the bar and tout split somehow. For no more effort than following a customer into the place, the additional profit from every drink is up to 370 baht.
My advice earlier was to ask the price of a drink, and if it's inflated, to simply leave. I never considered arguing with anyone as a good option, but obviously, from what's stated here, it was quite effective.
For such easy money, why would the touts (and probably some of the bar owners as well) want to see an end to this practice? It seems like more than enough people just pay the money, to make it very lucrative work - in fact, with so much easy money, you'd think that it's better work than driving a tuk-tuk or trying to sell stuff on the road.
The closest thing to a "band-aid" for this problem that I've seen, is reading about how the Tourist Police (and maybe others) are now trying to tell people to ask the price of a drink before placing the order.
I enjoy reading what 'gary09' did, but I don't think confrontations like that are the best answer. Educating people to simply walk out if the price is too high would be more effective as I see it.
People here can cuss and fuss at the touts all they want, but meanwhile they are probably laughing all the way to the bank with all their "free money" for next to no effort. At least they'll be doing so as long as there's hordes of unsuspecting tourists handing out $$$$$$ as if if meant nothing.
Just what is it, that you would expect the Tourist Police to do?
The touts don't seem to be doing anything illegal in Thailand. From what's posted up above, the price for a SECOND drink is 130 baht, and if the poor visitor doesn't argue the point, the price of the first drink will be 400 or 500 baht, which apparently the bar and tout split somehow. For no more effort than following a customer into the place, the additional profit from every drink is up to 370 baht.
My advice earlier was to ask the price of a drink, and if it's inflated, to simply leave. I never considered arguing with anyone as a good option, but obviously, from what's stated here, it was quite effective.
For such easy money, why would the touts (and probably some of the bar owners as well) want to see an end to this practice? It seems like more than enough people just pay the money, to make it very lucrative work - in fact, with so much easy money, you'd think that it's better work than driving a tuk-tuk or trying to sell stuff on the road.
The closest thing to a "band-aid" for this problem that I've seen, is reading about how the Tourist Police (and maybe others) are now trying to tell people to ask the price of a drink before placing the order.
I enjoy reading what 'gary09' did, but I don't think confrontations like that are the best answer. Educating people to simply walk out if the price is too high would be more effective as I see it.
People here can cuss and fuss at the touts all they want, but meanwhile they are probably laughing all the way to the bank with all their "free money" for next to no effort. At least they'll be doing so as long as there's hordes of unsuspecting tourists handing out $$$$$$ as if if meant nothing.
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What concerns me is that a BM owns this and other clubs and, apparently, is unconcerned about the bad practices.
Apparently, because he has not posted any replies to the criticisms, although that may be due to not having the time to read the forum.
That in itself is a concern as it means he does not have the time to consider the concerns of a group that may well make up a large perceneforum.xxxe of his client base.
At the present time, until and unless more positive comments are posted I will be giving all his establishments a miss.
Shame because I do like go go's.
What concerns me is that a BM owns this and other clubs and, apparently, is unconcerned about the bad practices.
Apparently, because he has not posted any replies to the criticisms, although that may be due to not having the time to read the forum.
That in itself is a concern as it means he does not have the time to consider the concerns of a group that may well make up a large perceneforum.xxxe of his client base.
At the present time, until and unless more positive comments are posted I will be giving all his establishments a miss.
Shame because I do like go go's.
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Really?? This would be good for BM Raw to elaborate on.
Really?? This would be good for BM Raw to elaborate on.
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Raw really needs a good manager...
Raw really needs a good manager...
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Use the Search Function. He's explained it all before.
Use the Search Function. He's explained it all before.
"Spicy Club" scams!
Just curious - with all the discussions here about this kind of thing, why wouldn't you ask the price of the drink before ordering? That, or at least ask for a menu and point out what you wanted, once you saw the price?
Why give people a golden opportunity to rip you off, when one simple question ahead of time allows YOU to decide what to do?
I'm not trying to give you a hard time or anything, just wondering why people don't do "the obvious". Is it that you forgot, or that you assumed that since a tout didn't escort you in, you were safe from that kind of rip-off?
Just curious - with all the discussions here about this kind of thing, why wouldn't you ask the price of the drink before ordering? That, or at least ask for a menu and point out what you wanted, once you saw the price?
Why give people a golden opportunity to rip you off, when one simple question ahead of time allows YOU to decide what to do?
I'm not trying to give you a hard time or anything, just wondering why people don't do "the obvious". Is it that you forgot, or that you assumed that since a tout didn't escort you in, you were safe from that kind of rip-off?
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I do not wish to allow touts into the spicy by choice. they leach of the business if i didnt have them I wouldnt have 80% of my headacks.and alot more better long term customers.... I believe I have explain the problem regarding the touts on bangla on another tread.in the street and lack of support in ridding the problem, everyone likes to point the finger at someone but no one in the street is willing to stand side by side with me. and it is imposible for me to win a one man war aginst them. I know its easy to point at me as I owne the most and cause stand out.
as you say how one owner can have 2 so different bars? Uncontrolable situations, a deck of cards delt. remember this is thailand,sometings are not so easily change. they are 7 gogos on seadragon and 5 are tout bars(playschool, hs, bottoms up, spicy) only suzy and crazy are no touts allowed bar and soon maybe I try pull show girls back.
we only have lady service staff and they are in uniform wearing white top. I assume you were served by a guy if yes then its 100% a tout they might have clamed they brought you in when they followed you in. in any sense I am sorry you had a bad experience in the place and I wish I could make it like crazy (no touts). the only hope is when the new hotel gets build on seadragon, hoping the owner will kick some noise when his customer gets hit and put it to the end.
I make 125 to 150 on a beer even brought in by a tout they take all the differents its not a fair practice and its really unfair on the bar but with other gogos support how can i change that?
or maybe I should put a charge at the door.... and stop them comming in the bar itself will that help? will that look better.
I have always try to educate customers and tell them to come in themselves and becareful of the touts.
I am not a marketer or agreat business man just a very hard working guy that still sometimes look back and think how the hell I ended up doing this.
I do not wish to allow touts into the spicy by choice. they leach of the business if i didnt have them I wouldnt have 80% of my headacks.and alot more better long term customers.... I believe I have explain the problem regarding the touts on bangla on another tread.in the street and lack of support in ridding the problem, everyone likes to point the finger at someone but no one in the street is willing to stand side by side with me. and it is imposible for me to win a one man war aginst them. I know its easy to point at me as I owne the most and cause stand out.
as you say how one owner can have 2 so different bars? Uncontrolable situations, a deck of cards delt. remember this is thailand,sometings are not so easily change. they are 7 gogos on seadragon and 5 are tout bars(playschool, hs, bottoms up, spicy) only suzy and crazy are no touts allowed bar and soon maybe I try pull show girls back.
we only have lady service staff and they are in uniform wearing white top. I assume you were served by a guy if yes then its 100% a tout they might have clamed they brought you in when they followed you in. in any sense I am sorry you had a bad experience in the place and I wish I could make it like crazy (no touts). the only hope is when the new hotel gets build on seadragon, hoping the owner will kick some noise when his customer gets hit and put it to the end.
I make 125 to 150 on a beer even brought in by a tout they take all the differents its not a fair practice and its really unfair on the bar but with other gogos support how can i change that?
or maybe I should put a charge at the door.... and stop them comming in the bar itself will that help? will that look better.
I have always try to educate customers and tell them to come in themselves and becareful of the touts.
I am not a marketer or agreat business man just a very hard working guy that still sometimes look back and think how the hell I ended up doing this.
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"Spicy Club" scams!
Girl in "Crazy" said that Spicy, Crazy, Suzie and Showgirls were under same owner/managership!?
Who's Raw?
I just found it odd that two so differently managed bars can be under the same ownership!:^^:
...or maybe the owner doesn't know what's going on?:sarcastic:
Girl in "Crazy" said that Spicy, Crazy, Suzie and Showgirls were under same owner/managership!?
Who's Raw?
I just found it odd that two so differently managed bars can be under the same ownership!:^^:
...or maybe the owner doesn't know what's going on?:sarcastic:
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Although I'm new to Patong Bars I'm quite accustomed to the GoGos in Bangkok and Pattaya, and know the prices of the drinks in advance since several visits and just assumed since this scam has never happened to me there, that the prices would be similar here, it's still the same country!
I've visited Rockhard and Roxy just before went to Spicy Club, and no problems what so ever, both excellent examples of honest bars!
Only ever had this problem in "Spicy Club"!
I'ts no big deal,I just thought I'd highlight this Scambar so as to warn other newbies not to go there!
Although I'm new to Patong Bars I'm quite accustomed to the GoGos in Bangkok and Pattaya, and know the prices of the drinks in advance since several visits and just assumed since this scam has never happened to me there, that the prices would be similar here, it's still the same country!
I've visited Rockhard and Roxy just before went to Spicy Club, and no problems what so ever, both excellent examples of honest bars!
Only ever had this problem in "Spicy Club"!
I'ts no big deal,I just thought I'd highlight this Scambar so as to warn other newbies not to go there!
"Spicy Club" scams!
No one showed me through the door!
I actually walked pass the bar and when the touts attention was at the other direction I sneaked in behind them and seated myself, first then a guy came up and I ordered an orange juice thinking I was clear of the touts!
I didn't know that touts were allowed to work inside bars!:shocked:
No one showed me through the door!
I actually walked pass the bar and when the touts attention was at the other direction I sneaked in behind them and seated myself, first then a guy came up and I ordered an orange juice thinking I was clear of the touts!
I didn't know that touts were allowed to work inside bars!:shocked:
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Raw is the owner fo those go gos you have mentioned. Maybe a PM to him will help sort you out. There is a thread somewhere As Land of smiles has pointed out. Those go gos can be quite fun tho.
Don't listen to Thaicam as there is no confirmation that he has ever been to Thailand. Troll is the definition I believe.
Raw is the owner fo those go gos you have mentioned. Maybe a PM to him will help sort you out. There is a thread somewhere As Land of smiles has pointed out. Those go gos can be quite fun tho.
Don't listen to Thaicam as there is no confirmation that he has ever been to Thailand. Troll is the definition I believe.
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It's in here somewhere>>>
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[GRAND OPENING] Endless Joy Spa (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-856510am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Sexy Chinese Faye, Slim Petite Chinese Vivi & Slim Sexy Chinese Coco & Young Slim Sexy Chinese Jasmine
- wonderspa:
wonderspa:
Weclome to wonder spa (9421Jane st unit127)L6A4H8 416-5000-800,.on Saturday4younge girl working Ensuit shower available new young girl Cici is beautiful Sweet and friendy girl good deep tissue massage ๏ผback walking,nice body slide,
nice Amy Vietnamese young girl,open maid,everything she can do,give you warm time,must trymany more - Sparkling Spa:
๏ธSPARKLING SPA๏ธ 50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8 Markham, ON L3R 8X4 (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY NEW MANAGEMENTNEW GIRLSSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS SEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโs Schedule isโฆ Foxy -Your new addiction at Sparkling Spa! A tall 5โ7โ sexy Korean girl with a wi
- Golden Sunshine Spa:
Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! TodayClaireBreeRebeccaFranEly Call us โ 905 - 265 - 2158 Your ultimate service awaits!
- Soul Relax Spa:
Looking for a relaxing escape? MeetHattiTinaTaniaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ 289 - 298 - 5662 Your ultimate relaxation awaits!
- Jennyโs Spa:
JENNYโS SPA 5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4 ( 647-893-5196)Call or Text ( 437-888-3759)Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY GRAND OPENINGNEW GIRLS EVERYDAYEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโS SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS TWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY REAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS TODAYโs ROSTER INCLUDES: Apple - Brand new girl from Taiwan ju
- lovefeetspa:
Love feet spa3641 wolfedale road Mississauga phone 4169890520today we have 3 girls work tina ella and lily beautiful and young girls ella can do dragon tendon massage all girls big boots my girls body smooch hand soft 100% no rush be make you happy l am promise you no regret come here
- AliceSpa:
SATURDAY at ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ฆ๐ฃ๐, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐ฐ๐ญ๐ฒ-๐ฎ๐ต๐ด-๐ฌ๐ด๐ต๐ด. 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 416-298-0898 [/color] 3 Top Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: BEBE (10am-9pm): is a nice young Korean girl with a natural super busty DD Cup, petite small body, open minded bbby cim cof rim, always cooperative, excellent services. JULIA (1pm-6pm) from Philippines, young girl
- luckywellness:
Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga kiki and Mia
- Annie Spa:
ANNIE SPA 7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6 (647) 891-9688 (416) 291-8879 (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY NEW MANAGEMENTNEW GIRLS GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโs ROSTER INCLUDES: JudyOur new Asian massage girl Judy is a vision of refined sensuality, with a graceful figure and smooth, flawless skin that radiates warmth and allure. Her striking black hair frames her delicate features, and her poised elega
- HollywoodSpa:
Saturday at๐๐ข๐๐๐ฌ๐ช๐ข๐ข๐ ๐ฆ๐ฃ๐, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: COCO & SISI. โ416-222-5554โ When you visit Hollywood Spa, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls. We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean & other attendants. COCO is an attractive attendant with nice massage skills & good services. SISI is a sweet slim beauty, 5โ5โ
- ForeverWarden:
Saturday at๐๐๐ก๐๐ฅ๐๐ก ๐ข๐๐ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐ฐ๐ญ๐ฒ-๐ด๐ฌ๐ฌ-๐ณ๐ด๐ด๐ณ: Reika, Tracy & Cindy. Reika is Japanese, loves to please. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ1โ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage, bbbj & cfs. Her bubbly personality vastly enhances the experience. Cindy is a slim beauty
- Eva Vivian - Elegant Asian Sweetheart:
Iโm Eva Vivian, your independent open minded slim sexy massage girl available working in Scarborough and North York. Available to provide you massage and extra services at Hawaii Health Spa in Scarborough and Greenway Spa in North York HAWAII HEALTH SPA: Hawaii Health Spa @ 3110 Kingston Road in Scarborough 416-261-8088 Eva available every TUESDAY, THURSDAY & FRIDAY from 10am to Late Night Call Hawaii Health Spa 416-261-8088 to book appointment with Eva Every
- bnwellness_wilson:
We have 4 girls are working today, young cute slime Sophia and young fun Tina with curve body 36DD open mind, sweet EFG Lina and pretty Ella are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
- HolidaySpa:
Saturday at๐๐ธ๐ต๐ฒ๐ญ๐ช๐ ๐ข๐น๐ช3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ๐ฐ๐ฏ๐ณ-๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ณ-๐ญ๐ญ๐ต๐ต: AMY & NANA. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโt miss out on her special skills Nana is a slim and very sexy Korean lady, very pretty and accommodating. Come and try, you will like. HOLIDAY SPA
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