Question Why do promoters seem to get more/better service than everyone else?

[TheWhiteShadow]

What look?
The pics are fake 90% of the time or exaggerated with some Snapchat filter.

How do you know their busy?
Do you sit out front and count the guys going in?

Go to the spa. Look at the girls if you like what you see. Stay if you don't leave
I'm not defending KJ I don't like the guy either but I use to go to his spas and they were busy. out of principal. I don't go to any spas He promotes anymore because I can't stand him. So no I don't sit outside the spas counting the guys going in

 

[yyztohkg]

OP, the answer to your question lies in the very definition of the word shill:
"an accomplice of a hawker, gambler, or swindler who acts as an enthusiastic customer to entice or encourage others"

Always make your internal adjustment: increase the age, decrease the service enthusiasm, increase the tip hungriness. You should eventually be able to read between the lines, but always the best intel isn't posted, it's passing privately among non-promoting users.

 

[not impressed]

Go to the spa. Look at the girls if you like what you see. Stay if you don't leave
I'm not defending KJ I don't like the guy either but I use to go to his spas and they were busy. out of principal. I don't go to any spas He promotes anymore because I can't stand him. So no I don't sit outside the spas counting the guys going in

Same here , I’ve told the owners the reason I don’t support their businesses anymore but , like KJ say “ lose one gain 5 “ until the truth is realized

 

[krayjee]

What look?
The pics are fake 90% of the time or exaggerated with some Snapchat filter.

How do you know they're busy?
Do you sit out front and count the guys going in?

Hey Mental ,
I don't post fake reviews here. Haters like you might see me differently but majority of guys have faith in me, follow me and always ask me every day where to go and who to see.
Go to OM parking lot for just half hr and see how many going in and out. You will need more than your 10 fingers. One guy even posted here going to OM was like going to Costco, one coming out, one going in.

 

[Average_Olivia@Premier]

The funny thing about this was , no matter how I told them what I was doing with them and their heads , they still got sucked into it and willingly participte in the fights. Once KJ got into their heads, most of them lost common sense.

You're delusional.
You and you're clients are sitting duck's.

 

[Eyes]

Promoters receives payments and services for driving traffic. Should there be charge a fee for each review they post? Should income be reported?
MassagePlanet advertising is paid by the Spa. If the MP site didn't exist they wouldn't either.

The real work is done in the Spa. Their faciities, workers, etc. If they keep up their efforts their business should prosper. The promoters have it easy for the most part. Massage work is hard work. Now Spas are posting photos. This makes the decision easier, saves having to go in and see the girls and decide whether to stay or not. The embellishments added by the promoters helps, but I think in the long run the pictures will speak louder than any promoter's shill.

I would encourage spas to continue this trend and move to managing their own posts. It's always better to deal direct than through a middleman.

 

[Mantel]

Hey Mental ,,
Go to OM parling lot for just half hr and see how many going in and out. You will need more than your 10 fingers. One guy even posted here going to OM was like going to Costco, one coming out, one going in.

"One guy" , would that be one of your other accounts? lol You're paid to push and lie, it's not that hard to see and understand.

 

[c1000]

Make this the official thread for these lowlife shill artists, stop helping them keep their promotional bullshit on the first page by keeping this thread on the first page

swear to god I wasn't thinking of kj specifically - it's not just kj that does this it seems to be a pattern that they all follow

He has mastered the process tho

Honestly, I'd rather deal with the shills then the incels and haters.

At least the shill are encouraging everyone to have a good time.

Too much negativity these days in the massage scene.

 

[eyeswideshut]

The funny thing about this was , no matter how I told them what I was doing with them and their heads , they still got sucked into it and willingly participte in the fights. Once KJ got into their heads, most of them lost common sense.

Sure, I believe everything you say

Always make your internal adjustment: increase the age, decrease the service enthusiasm, increase the tip hungriness. You should eventually be able to read between the lines, but always the best intel isn't posted, it's passing privately among non-promoting users.

This is great for regulars and I'll bet we all do that. It's the new people and the ones without accounts that get sucked in. Mp used to be better in that you could search before but now you need to be logged in. If you don't have an account it's hard to get the real picture - and there are still tons of anonymous viewers

I would encourage spas to continue this trend and move to managing their own posts. It's always better to deal direct than through a middleman

I agree and the trend does seem to be in this direction. Probably the biggest problem is language and the technology but that gets easier over time

Honestly, I'd rather deal with the shills then the incels and haters.

At least the shill are encouraging everyone to have a good time.

Too much negativity these days in the massage scene.

As long as it's with one of there girls Try disagreeing with a shill/promoter (especially kj) and watch the negativity begin

 

[JimiNY]

Promoters receives payments and services for driving traffic. Should there be charge a fee for each review they post? Should income be reported?
MassagePlanet advertising is paid by the Spa. If the MP site didn't exist they wouldn't either.

The real work is done in the Spa. Their faciities, workers, etc. If they keep up their efforts their business should prosper. The promoters have it easy for the most part. Massage work is hard work. Now Spas are posting photos. This makes the decision easier. The embellishments added by the promoters helps, but I think in the long run the pictures will speak louder than any promoter's shill.

I would encourage spas to continue this trend and move to managing their own posts. It's always better to deal direct than through a middleman.

Very well said.

Promoters receives payments and services for driving traffic

I do not get paid, not in a monetary sense. Is still a hobby, always was.

The real work is done in the Spa.

Yes, they do the hard work, I report what they wish for me to say.
You have a problem with what I report, take it up with the bosses.
Do not like a fake pic with a name, for a brand new MP, take it up with the bosses because
eventually either the girl will not work out or will get a real pic of her.

I wouldn't surprise me at all if half the 'fights' are staged

Yes, are scripted and they believe we are all taking the bait, lol

 

[MDT222]

Very well said.

I do not get paid, not in a monetary sense. Is still a hobby, always was.

Yes, they do the hard work, I report what they wish for me to say.
You have a problem with what I report, take it up with the bosses.
Do not like a fake pic with a name, for a brand new MP, take it up with the bosses because
eventually either the girl will not work out or will get a real pic of her.

Yes, are scripted and they believe we are all taking the bait, lol

Finally, we got the insight from the horses mouth, Thanks JimiNY

 

[c1000]

As long as it's with one of there girls Try disagreeing with a shill/promoter (especially kj) and watch the negativity begin

I agree with you on that.

Sometimes you can have a real complaint and the shills will try to gang up on you for speaking out.

They can be very hypersensitive.

 

[LucDurand]

Reading the spa ads I've noticed that most of the reviews are now from promoters. They mention how great the massage is and start giving a pretty detailed description of the extras they got before saying something like "I'll leave the rest to your imagination" or "lots of fun was had with the spa limits of course"

Almost always when I see the same girl my experience is way different. Massage sucks or is mediocre. Service is mechanical. I understand ymmv but that shouldn't become the excuse for all crappy sessions imo

Here's my take

When they say 'great massage' they're usually lying or heavily exaggerating or maybe it's been so long since they've had an actual RMT massage they forgot what a really good massage is like

When they talk about service they always say or imply they get more than the norm. Could be bs of course but I suspect it might be because they tip really well. And they can tip well because they probably got free room fee

Whatever the reason, beyond the entertainment value I don't find them very realistic or useful

To begin, you need to differentiate between a PROMOTER and a SHILL. Kj and Jiminy, being forum-certified promoters with identifiable logos, provide relatively credible info. They are not inclined to pretend as regular customers to write reviews and deceive for their personal gains. Their focus lies more in answering questions rather than engaging in false facts.

On the other hand, shills are outright liers who got paid for crafting fraudulent and misleading reviews to deceive unsuspecting guys seeking true info. Some a shill also use this method to lure the girls to obtain higher-mileage services for himself.

 

[UsefulIdiot]

The real information is exchanged in DMs. Take everything else with an huge grain of salt. Over the last couple of months I have had solid recommendations in private.

 

[LoinHeart Charley]

The real information is exchanged in DMs. Take everything else with an huge grain of salt. Over the last couple of months I have had solid recommendations in private.

DM u, waiting for your another solid recommendation.

 

[UsefulIdiot]

DM u, waiting for your another solid recommendation.

When someone DMs me the first thing I do is check their posting history before I decide if I want to help them. I am not going to send negative or racist guys to see SWs that I like. I have not seen anything unpleasant in your postings so feel free to DM me.

 

[MustardAndKetchup]

I stopped going to spas that I was regular to, just because of the dramas on their threads in here. HR is one of them. The more toxicity, the further I stay from the spa.

 

[I❤️SPAs]

Hey Mental ,
I don't post fake reviews here. Haters like you might see me differently but majority of guys have faith in me, follow me and always ask me every day where to go and who to see.
Go to OM parking lot for just half hr and see how many going in and out. You will need more than your 10 fingers. One guy even posted here going to OM was like going to Costco, one coming out, one going in.

Well, I gotta say: I stopped by OM a few times just to see what all the fuss was about and couldn't find a parking place out front by the Spa.
Cause I didn't want park out back I took off on both occasions with intent to return at another time.

So, A couple of Fridays back I decided to give it another attempt and actually got a parking place, hopped out of the car and went in. This was around 10:30 am.

I was completely amazed to see approximately 6 or 7 young guys(20s & 30s I'd say) sitting and standing around waiting to get served. The only other time I have seen any Spa as busy was one day at Allure, and there was a constant stream of guys coming and going—all age groups.

I don't know what's going on at OM, but there is something going on in there...

I didn't stay.

Maybe I will one day

 

[JimiNY]

Well, I gotta say: I stopped by OM a few times just to see what all the fuss was about and couldn't find a parking place out front by the Spa.
Cause I didn't want park out back I took off on both occasions with intent to return at another time.

So, A couple of Fridays back I decided to give it another attempt and actually got a parking place, hopped out of the car and went in. This was around 10:30 am.

I was completely amazed to see approximately 6 or 7 young guys(20s & 30s I'd say) sitting and standing around waiting to get served. The only other time I have seen any Spa as busy was one day at Allure, and there was a constant stream of guys coming and going—all age groups.

I don't know what's going on at OM, but there is something going on in there...

I didn't stay.

Maybe I will one day

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Maybe I should mention a few spa here while we are at it

 

[I❤️SPAs]

People have to start using the full spa names, else they won't get any customers. So can you please tell me what is OM and the address? Googling "OM spa" is not helpful

Ocean Motion Spa. North west side of Major Mackenzie Drive & Keele Street at the plaza in Maple

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Maybe I should mention a few spa here while we are at it

Is this your website?