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I agree with Bob that prices tend not to vary from place to place or from talent to talent at any one locale.

Having said that, I have noticed that prices in certain areas of Toronto has dropped to an all time low; there must be 30+ Asian MPs near Yonge and College and in that area you can have massage + FS, from a 20 something asian girl, for what we pay for HEs here. On the opposite end, Calgary ladies are still asking for $$$ per hour despite the bad economy. Until such time when you see extreme competitions in the city, i don't expect to see any pricing adjustment.

Two things continue to be a mystery to me:
1. Why is Calgary the most expensive city i have seen?
2. Why in Montreal, the local Canadian ladies charge less than the visiting Asians?
 
I agree with Bob that prices tend not to vary from place to place or from talent to talent at any one locale.

Having said that, I have noticed that prices in certain areas of Toronto has dropped to an all time low; there must be 30+ Asian MPs near Yonge and College and in that area you can have massage + FS, from a 20 something asian girl, for what we pay for HEs here. On the opposite end, Calgary ladies are still asking for $$$ per hour despite the bad economy. Until such time when you see extreme competitions in the city, i don't expect to see any pricing adjustment.

Two things continue to be a mystery to me:
1. Why is Calgary the most expensive city i have seen?
2. Why in Montreal, the local Canadian ladies charge less than the visiting Asians?

I posted a few things in the Calgary board as I am here now.
There are some recession pricing here now in Calgary.
As your point #2 for Montreal, maybe the theory is Asians are considered more exotic so price remains higher than the locals where its domestic product, a dime a dozen.

Like lobster. Its expensive to eat lobster everywhere else in Canada but Newfoundland, Price Edward Island, Nova Scotia, its cheap and plentiful. Lobster too common for them.
 
Before I share this story... this woman does not advertise on CL or Kijiji or anywhere I have seen, has never been reviewed here or even mentioned and I am not going to share her identity with anyone because I promised her, so please respect that. My sharing here is to remind all of us that you never know what might happen.

This provider is in the beauty biz. I have known her for several years and never ever did I get the impression she would do anything extra. Attractive, stacked, with a fine round bottom, but very straight laced.

Anyway, she and I became friendly and we did some business together. For a variety of reasons, but in large part because I kept talking to her, teasing a bit now and then, and being a consummate gentleman, she has loosened up with me over time. First from draped to undraped with some "accidental" nudging, then that evolved into a rather splendid HE, while my hands roamed. over and under. Later an HE topless, then later nude and today it is about everything except FS. Kissing, daty, dato, bbbj, digits, a little spanking. She tells me I am her escape and that she gets off on me paying her for her release.

I know we are here for reviews we can use to see people, so I apologise if this review is an issue for some. My point it just to share that some pretty hot things can happen with some providers who normally do not engage in such activities if we are gentleman, persistent without being overly so, and willing to invest some time and money to get there.

Ciao
MisterMister:you show your penis and balls even your anal to many different places and ladies,then come to here tell us about that, do you shy?
 
Before I share this story... this woman does not advertise on CL or Kijiji or anywhere I have seen, has never been reviewed here or even mentioned and I am not going to share her identity with anyone because I promised her, so please respect that. My sharing here is to remind all of us that you never know what might happen.

This provider is in the beauty biz. I have known her for several years and never ever did I get the impression she would do anything extra. Attractive, stacked, with a fine round bottom, but very straight laced.

Anyway, she and I became friendly and we did some business together. For a variety of reasons, but in large part because I kept talking to her, teasing a bit now and then, and being a consummate gentleman, she has loosened up with me over time. First from draped to undraped with some "accidental" nudging, then that evolved into a rather splendid HE, while my hands roamed. over and under. Later an HE topless, then later nude and today it is about everything except FS. Kissing, daty, dato, bbbj, digits, a little spanking. She tells me I am her escape and that she gets off on me paying her for her release.

I know we are here for reviews we can use to see people, so I apologise if this review is an issue for some. My point it just to share that some pretty hot things can happen with some providers who normally do not engage in such activities if we are gentleman, persistent without being overly so, and willing to invest some time and money to get there.

Ciao
MisterMister:you show your penis and balls even your anal to many different places and ladies,then come to here tell us about that, do you shy?o_O
 
wow..... mister mister u got a follower eh? what did u do to derserve this? some ppl have way too much time!
 
I agree with Bob that prices tend not to vary from place to place or from talent to talent at any one locale.

Having said that, I have noticed that prices in certain areas of Toronto has dropped to an all time low; there must be 30+ Asian MPs near Yonge and College and in that area you can have massage + FS, from a 20 something asian girl, for what we pay for HEs here. On the opposite end, Calgary ladies are still asking for $$$ per hour despite the bad economy. Until such time when you see extreme competitions in the city, i don't expect to see any pricing adjustment.

Two things continue to be a mystery to me:
1. Why is Calgary the most expensive city i have seen?
2. Why in Montreal, the local Canadian ladies charge less than the visiting Asians?

On point 1, for massages, the base rate for massages in Calgary has come down in many locations as mentioned previously by welldunn66. More and more places are going to 60, 65, 70/hr. As low as 50. Have also seen 85 for 90 minutes massage. Beginning to see more independents, student masseuses etc. So, yes, pricing adjustment can take place, just as it did in Toronto years ago as supply side ballooned.

In Montreal, there has always been a stronger contingent of independents (local ladies) who have made long term careers in massage. They are not the one month wonders, like in Alberta who think they will get rich in weeks. Most work from their own homes/apartments and massage is their main source of everyday income to live and pay their bills year in year out. So they have reasonable charges and keep their long term clients. Many of the independent masseuses include happy endings as part of their regular fee of 50-60 for a one hour massage. However, most of them will not offer anything else, meaning no FS or BBBJs etc. I think this is smart and a good way to remain in this business for a long time. Not sure why this model is not pursued by more independent ladies here?
 
On point 1, for massages, the base rate for massages in Calgary has come down in many locations as mentioned previously by welldunn66. More and more places are going to 60, 65, 70/hr. As low as 50. Have also seen 85 for 90 minutes massage. Beginning to see more independents, student masseuses etc. So, yes, pricing adjustment can take place, just as it did in Toronto years ago as supply side ballooned.

In Montreal, there has always been a stronger contingent of independents (local ladies) who have made long term careers in massage. They are not the one month wonders, like in Alberta who think they will get rich in weeks. Most work from their own homes/apartments and massage is their main source of everyday income to live and pay their bills year in year out. So they have reasonable charges and keep their long term clients. Many of the independent masseuses include happy endings as part of their regular fee of 50-60 for a one hour massage. However, most of them will not offer anything else, meaning no FS or BBBJs etc. I think this is smart and a good way to remain in this business for a long time. Not sure why this model is not pursued by more independent ladies here?

The problem is still way too many guys in edmonton with fat wallets who are willing to pay 80/hr + 50 or 60 for a 5 minute HJ. Just look at the La Bella thread here, it's one of the more popular places and they charge $80 + tax, then another 50+ for a HJ. Until people stop supporting these places the prices will not go down. Even old ladies like Amy or Kelly are charging that much, people must be paying it??!?
 
The problem is still way too many guys in edmonton with fat wallets who are willing to pay 80/hr + 50 or 60 for a 5 minute HJ. Just look at the La Bella thread here, it's one of the more popular places and they charge $80 + tax, then another 50+ for a HJ. Until people stop supporting these places the prices will not go down. Even old ladies like Amy or Kelly are charging that much, people must be paying it??!?

Only way now bros is to control the pricing by voting with your wallets. I understand that Edmonton has less than Toronto and Vancouver. Even Calgary too. There are a lot of legit RMT places that will not do xxtras and they are a dime a dozen. This is probably why with the fewer suply of legit with possibility of xxxtras, some bros are just willing to "settle" and pay those higher tips just so its more convenient and happy with thinking with the other head, not the one on our necks and with our wallets.
 
My attitude is this:

$80 for a massage which in a lot of cases you get a receipt and claim it all
$40-60 for HJ with maybe nude topless or at least fondling, come on guys $60 bucks for your entertainment. These ladies will do just about anyone, and I can guarantee we are not all Body Building he-men coming to see them.

We are lucky they even cater to us. So don't cheapen them or you will get what you pay fo:eek:r. Just cut back so you can afford to pay the rates and have fun.:p
 
I agree with Bob. It sounds like sometimes people just focus on the act and not the quality of the whole experience. So if you think $40 is it for a HE, what about how good it is, how long it lasts, the technique and all the other "extras" Bob refers to or do you think $40 is it for whatever you get? Not really how I think.

Using one provider as an example. She is not much of a looker but she actually gives a 60 minute HE.. .full of massaging the boys, butt massage, teasing relentlessly and then building to a long slow incredible HE. For me, that's worth more than $40. I realize all of us have different size wallets, but that doesn't mean the price of something should be less than its worth. Otherwise we could expect to buy a Mercedes for the price of Fiat. I would rather go less often and get a much better experience than go more frequently and get meh. My two cents.
 
I agree with Bob. It sounds like sometimes people just focus on the act and not the quality of the whole experience. So if you think $40 is it for a HE, what about how good it is, how long it lasts, the technique and all the other "extras" Bob refers to or do you think $40 is it for whatever you get? Not really how I think.

Using one provider as an example. She is not much of a looker but she actually gives a 60 minute HE.. .full of massaging the boys, butt massage, teasing relentlessly and then building to a long slow incredible HE. For me, that's worth more than $40. I realize all of us have different size wallets, but that doesn't mean the price of something should be less than its worth. Otherwise we could expect to buy a Mercedes for the price of Fiat. I would rather go less often and get a much better experience than go more frequently and get meh. My two cents.

Bob and Mister took the words out of my mouth.
The fact is $40.00 is not a lot of money for a clean sexual experience. Personally I prefer going to a RMT who offers extras, I want a quality massage first, then a HE. the MP's cant offer this and even a basic HJ will run $160.00. I believe I frequent the lady Mister refers to and there are few SP's I would take in her place. I have often had weak knees after an hour with her.

The bottom line is that a RMT works hard, few of us could provide the level of massage they do for 30, 60, or 90 minutes at a time then provide the client with an enthusiastic sexual ending, even though we would be working on a female. Naturally not all fall into this category so when a guy finds one he needs to treat her decent and support her.

Bob brings up a good point when he states the ladies will do just about anyone, I don't imagine they lust for middle aged, balding, slightly overweight, hairy men. yet they service them all.
 
Jistaguy, MisterMister, Bob the knob, Tbone, you all make good points. I agree with you all and its noted. I do not have any issues with tipping more than the baseline rate of $40 for a HE. All of us have different budgets and different expectations. Not everyone can spend the same way. I have tipped big too in the past, I am just adjusting now with the current economy. Baseline is $40 but if the girl deserves more, you are most certainly to reward her more. I realize everyone, both masseuse and client needs to eat too. My main issue is paying too much for a SP that is too mechanical, or lacks enthusiams, or jack hammer the finish for you, or you pay extra to "finish yourself while I help or look", or a really older lady thinking she can command a price so high that was fit or deserving for a younger lady.
Sorry, I need to adjust my social expectations a bit now with the situation. Its just that my other bros go overseas and they are more honest and cruel to the SPs there where when one reaches a certain age, and a high price is quoted, they scoff and insult the SP telling them you are not young anymore and why you still do this. I do not support what their attitude, just thinking that the ladies tone down the pricing a little for a 5 to 15 minute extra inning.
 
As I wrote in the posting, I will not share her name, where she works, anything that would identify her. I will add she has got 38DDs (enhanced but you can't tell), a vertical hood piercing, and her pussy is always waxed and wet. Heh. I couldn't stop myself, but no worries, I will stay mum on how well she uses her mouth! LOL
Colombian?? LOL
 
Jistaguy, MisterMister, Bob the knob, Tbone, you all make good points. I agree with you all and its noted. I do not have any issues with tipping more than the baseline rate of $40 for a HE. All of us have different budgets and different expectations. Not everyone can spend the same way. I have tipped big too in the past, I am just adjusting now with the current economy. Baseline is $40 but if the girl deserves more, you are most certainly to reward her more. I realize everyone, both masseuse and client needs to eat too. My main issue is paying too much for a SP that is too mechanical, or lacks enthusiams, or jack hammer the finish for you, or you pay extra to "finish yourself while I help or look", or a really older lady thinking she can command a price so high that was fit or deserving for a younger lady.
Sorry, I need to adjust my social expectations a bit now with the situation. Its just that my other bros go overseas and they are more honest and cruel to the SPs there where when one reaches a certain age, and a high price is quoted, they scoff and insult the SP telling them you are not young anymore and why you still do this. I do not support what their attitude, just thinking that the ladies tone down the pricing a little for a 5 to 15 minute extra inning.
Disagree with Jistagut, MisterMister, Bob the Zknob, welldunn66 Instead of the girls charging less maybe you should stop going to every girl. This way you would not be so tight.
 
Disagree with Jistagut, MisterMister, Bob the Zknob, welldunn66 Instead of the girls charging less maybe you should stop going to every girl. This way you would not be so tight.
Standard pricing is different from city to city. You can not compare a massage cost in TO to YEG. Different circumstances with more variety in TO making the prices lower there
 
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  32. wonderspa:
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  33. AliceSpa:
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  34. HollywoodSpa:
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  36. HolidaySpa:
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  42. bnwellness_wilson:
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  43. luckywellness:
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  44. New Oriental Health Centre:
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