Thais only live for the day

[Ashley D]

One of the reasons I have said a few times that I reckon it is harder to be urban poor / bangkok poor, than rural poor..

Bee puts on airs sometimes.. And is very ready when someone asks to emphasize the 'ohh I from bangkok' and 'I chinese thai' etc.. Which is utter horseshit.. Shes from the same dirt poor slums as all the rest.. He bad luck was her part chinese mum married a thai guy and got disowned (I think) from her family.. Then Thai guy dies and shes without any support from family to raise Bee and her (dead) brother.

From what I have heard they didnt have it easy, but even with that it was a walk in the park compared to Kim..

 

[Aziz Shobash]

my whole point was they just don't understand that there is just as bad situations in the west
i think the biggest benefit ofthe west is education and guidance
yes, we were dirt poor and struggled more than anyone i ever hopes has to in their life but i went to a good school for free everyday and was told i could do anything i wanted in life
that is where a poor person on the west has a better life than a poor rural thai because they are all classed and kept them most of their lifes

so, i'd say my poor upbringing was a harder life than my wife's poor upbringing but that i had many more opportunities to get out of that poverty than she did

 

[HaK attack! [panda-kun]]

"Big time spender rejected by a woman, who refers to him as a PIG."


:rofl: : :

This has nothing to do with her supposed "short sided" outlook, or being Thai.

This chap obviously thought that a handful of baht would "buy" him his "Cinderella" Thai lady. 55555



And how exactly did you (your friend) ascertain what her activities were, over the weekend? And how much she was paid?

For future reference, you (your friend 555) may want to be on the watch for the word "khwaay" in future conversations with Thai girls. This is another favorite expression they use, when referring to stupid twats! 55555 :intello:

 

[Khan K]

...just sitting here reading the board on a daily bases, I receive exactly that message from the majority of posts.

It seems that once you live there, people get very frustrated and negative when you have to deal with the Thais daily.

Then again, it might just be like a newspaper, the bad news always makes the headlines.

 

[jenineschatz]

I am partial to the odd asian whole myself.....
as for absorbing it.... well... a munch is ok...

 

[Yuriy R]

Being called Moo, sometimes fat Thai kids get called this as a nickname, maybe she had a pet name for you?

Think yourself lucky that she wasn't having a wee fling with the Thai cleaning boy and buying him lots of nice presents from the 50k. It's not uncommon for a Thai BG and especially a go go dancer to have a Thai boyfriend or Gik (Thai boy fock buddy)

There might have been a possibility that 50k wasn't much in her book, you never know she might have had multiple sponsors.

 

[Dr.Lief]

i second that...

 

[dino hotchick]

The Thai affection for the family structure is well known.

However, I disagree with the notion that Thais somehow have it easier because they can just take off back to the farm for a break whenever things get a little tough.

Whether or not Isaan lifestyles are more or less affected by consumerism is not the issue here. The point is that most of the support that you speak so highly of only exists because it originates from outside the farm.

The demise of the "Village" in favour of the "City" is a process that has been going on in south east asia for at least the last 100 years. You just cannot take the millions of people in cities and put them back into the villages. It sure as hell didn't work in Cambodia and it won't work now.

Some time ago we got used to the term "Alternative lifestyle" which in broad terms means you have the financial means, so you make the informed choice to live more like like ancestors did. Nothing wrong with that provided that you accept it's limitations.

The Alternative Lifestyle as a stand alone ideal is a universally fatally flawed concept, because you cannot have an "Alternative Lifestyle" without a "Contemporary Lifestyle" to support it.

There is one reason only that "Life on the farm" can support anything but a subsistence lifestyle which of itself is subject to flood drought or famine and that is because of economic support from outside the farm.

 

[Pompal 09.]

but geespot wasnt talking about that
he was talking about the relative inexpense up in the village that allows friends/families to help a person/family in need
sure they dont have all the money in the world, but they usually have a place to crash because of how they live, and food is so cheap in village that if you have to cook for 3 extra people, it is doable
he was just talking about that aspect

 

[Kds]

A Thai person with common sense is a rare find indeed.

 

[Polly]

I can't defend the logic but her behaviour is not uncommon.

From Page 122 of the original edition of "Money Number One" by fellow Australian Neil Hutchinson details a similar example
Money Still Number One - 3rd. Edition by Neil Hutchison

"An American fell in love in Pattaya . He was not a poor man and he and his girlfriend decided to marry. When he was in Pattaya, she stayed with him at his hotel. When he was away, he sent money to support her. One day he arranged to meet her at a restaurant. When she did not show up at the appointed time, de decided to go back to his hotel. Opening the door to his room, he was shocked to find his fiancee in bed with another falung. Apparently she had met this other guy at a bar and went short-time with him for 500 baht. She even used her fiancees hotel room. The American threw them both out.

I have told this last story to many Thais. In every case, their reaction was the same – nothing. A falung, on hearing this story, will shake his head in disbelief at the girl’s lack of forethought, throwing away what may have been a bright future for a lousy 500 baht. Thais stand there with blank looks on their faces as if to say So? What is the point of your story?
To them the girl’s behaviour was perfectly understandable."
From Money Number One - The single man's survival guide to Pattaya by Neil Hutchison. :ange:

 

[Rasmah.com]

? I'm confused, missing some post from this thread?

Then again, there are also posts missing in the exact same thread I posted where nicke's announcing posts might be lost on the old server due to the backup ...

 

[momofosho420]

You are all spot on with your replies hence my final comment thats its US or to be more precise ME in this instance that needs to change his outlook , not so sure about 20 something year olds not wanting to be with men twice there age as any Emirates flight has at least 5/6 happy couples with very old chaps with 20 something thai wifes but i agree with all of your comments mostly.
I know a chap who goes to LOS to visit his Father who is in Bkk and is in his seventies his wife who is pregnant with my mates baby brother was propositioned by his new mummy about him taking out her older sister !! mind you they are both good looking gals and both my mate and Father very wealthy ( book dealers) good luck to them i say.....hope i find my Tirak one day

 

[Julz]

Yes I agree...on the hole it is very good.

 

[Ray]

That's just yet another negative quote.

Drive's me a bit nuts to be honest;-)

Maybe common sense from the West is not the same common sense in Thailand?

I also don't see much common sense here in the Middle East, but it's my view of common sense, apparently they have a different meaning of this.

 

[Sister]

...... or maybe its the type of girl that I am with (BG) thats the problem...but thats going off topic a bit and covered in other threads , I love bg's just need to see them as simply that, maybe after the next few trips to LOS the penny will finally drop...MAYBE !!! 555

 

[Giacomo]

it's not bg's
its stime, Tony
i mean, how much time did you spend with this girl before jumping in head 1st?
to be honest, i think she actually was the wise one in the situation in not taking that deal from someone she barely knew
the one who was thinking ahead, actually

 

[Waikia]

and you know what Pauly, that's right, I was wondering the same when my wife went back to her village today, I asked her I wonder if they
all know about this crisis for example. ...but how many in the West don't understand either? And will behave exactly the same
again should they ever get a finger on credit again...

... I just had to lecture 2 (two in a row!) colleagues within 2 weeks who both bought a new Porsche Cayenne? Can you believe it ...one
is telling me it's his way to boost the economy and having trust it all will go well, the other one tells me he could get it very cheap because
of the economic crisis, a bargain because a guy canceled his order ... listening to a long story here.

Plain plain stupid. These people are barring their heads into the sand, just as I read the Thais are doing the same thing. Tomorrow will be
tomorrow ... today is today.

The complete bubble thread we discuss on this forum is based on this sentiment. I bet you a 100$ that as soon as the credit will flow again
(should it ever again), many millions of people in the West will fly into the same light again full speed as they did before, spend money today,
not caring about tomorrow.

So Thais live for the day, yes, I agree from what I have seen ... but millions of countless Westerners are too stupid to plan a simple year ahead
(let alone 30 when not reading the mortgage contract they sign), too.

I hope this doesn't take the thread to much off-topic, since I also realize that we want to discuss a cultural behavior of the Thais here. But I
just couldn't resist posting this seeing how stupid the average western Joe behaves today, how he behaved yesterday and how he will behave tomorrow.

The Thais have that tomorrow will be tomorrow culture, and from what I read (mostly from Lil on this forum) how great is the West and their
superduper planning ahead, we all go down tomorrow and I'm shitting my pants.

IMO we all sound quite arrogant analyzing other cultures and pin pointing while at the same time mess it up big time.

It would be great to have a village to go back to and plug a banana from the tree when it all goes per shape;-)

 

[Pompal 09.]

Again very wise words marc26 , you may be correct in what you say. To be honest the old male pride thing took over. I will see her again in April and enjoy some time with her and possibly still spoil her rotten but I must wise up and realise we are from very different worlds and with opposite ways of thinking and yes point taken she was the one behaving with maturity I was just so sure at the time and totally devastated that she ran back to the bar as soon as I was on the plane but I agree with what you say as always you say it as it is...thanks for that

 

[Pompal 09.]

Yeah, I think you've got it right. We all see (and read about) the rip-offs, double pricing, tourist gouging, etc. All that comes along with being in a tourist area. And like Marc26 says, we don't hear so much about the good experiences. The thread about the agency (and BM's) helping the AIDS victims comes to mind. But like you say, bad news make the headlines. People always remember the one time you may have screwed up, but nobody remembers all the other times you did good!


I think that was the main point LivinLOS had made earlier.